Outside of Dez, we barely pose a threat passing wise

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I know you all love Terrence Williams, but the fact remains a fact. Show me more than 5+ highlights since he's been here where he has made great plays with his hands. Not his Body.

he has only been here a couple of years.!
 

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TWill is tied for 3rd in the league in rec TDs

His rookie #s were fantastic he's building on that.

We have a HOF TE that helps move the chains in clutch situations. And a All Pro RB who is very comfortable catching the ball as well.

What's the point of this thread?
 

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Williams is a good 2. He may end up better and is playing better than good right now. Still needs some polish.

Witten is HOF bound. Dez is unbelievable. Murray catches the ball well as does Randle; Dunbar ain't bad either. Hanna and Escobar have good hands esp Escobar. Escobar is just stuck behind Witten. He's gotten a bit big for a hybrid now which is a tad disappointing to me. Beasley is a good slot weapon. Harris needs more snaps.

We need better execution and less turnovers to make this offense more formidable. STs are hurting our FP. We don't really need more weapons IMO although I'd take them if the acquisition cost is appropriate.
 

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I don't think you're hungry for attention I just think you are finding something to nitpick. This is a salary cap era so you can't build a team w flawless players.

So if my 2WR is 3rd in the league in TD receptions and I also have Dez Witten and Murray I'm very happy.
If I'm not getting production fromTwill then I start to question his skills. But he's obviously doing something right.
 
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He has 16 catches vs. 26 total targets. Seems pretty good to me.

I don't care if he catches it with his face. Just catch it.
 

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Unless Romo delivers a perfect ball to Williams and his chest, he is not catching it. He loves to use his body still. Evidence was there when he had to use his hands, and failed miserably.

How the hell did our scouts not see this?

He looks good at times, because Romo puts it in a spot that allows him to use his body, but what happens when he can't consistently do that?

He's a great athlete, yes he made a nice play, but we can't ignore the fact that one day him and his comfort of using his body to catch the ball, will come back to bite us in a huge game, where Dez is doubled, and we need a big play from Williams, where the ball might not be perfect, and his hands will be needed.

A little bit of an exaggeration here, but I mostly agree and I guess I'm in the minority. The best receivers mostly catch with their hands and with good technique. It might be just me, but catching with the body is iffy.
 

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I think what the original poster MIGHT be trying to say is....will Tony ever be confident to throw the ball up like he did to Dez in OT...and expect Williams to go "get" the ball. When you catch the way Williams does...you do not meet the ball at it's highest point...so QBs will be cautious about giving you a chance to make a play. And that does handcuff the offense...because Williams is in one on one OFTEN...and Tony needs to feel comfortable going to him...instead of throwing into double coverage forcing the issue with Dez. If you look at all of his picks this year...he was caught FORCING the ball into Dez..and once to Witten. Tony is going to have to become more accustomed to giving Williams those chances...but Williams has to give him a reason to give him those chances.
 

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Before the start of the season and after hearing about all the rave reviews about T Williams in training camp, I had hoped to see less body catching.
 

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I think what the original poster MIGHT be trying to say is....will Tony ever be confident to throw the ball up like he did to Dez in OT...and expect Williams to go "get" the ball. When you catch the way Williams does...you do not meet the ball at it's highest point...so QBs will be cautious about giving you a chance to make a play. And that does handcuff the offense...because Williams is in one on one OFTEN...and Tony needs to feel comfortable going to him...instead of throwing into double coverage forcing the issue with Dez. If you look at all of his picks this year...he was caught FORCING the ball into Dez..and once to Witten. Tony is going to have to become more accustomed to giving Williams those chances...but Williams has to give him a reason to give him those chances.

Yes, you are limited when catching with your body. I agree there.
 

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His body catching was good enough to be selected in the 3rd round.

Good grief. I saw Witten make a body catch yesterday. Better cut the fool now!
 

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A little bit of an exaggeration here, but I mostly agree and I guess I'm in the minority. The best receivers mostly catch with their hands and with good technique. It might be just me, but catching with the body is iffy.

Agreed bro.
 

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Yes, this is exactly what we want them to believe. Good thinking, OP.
 

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Worst. Thread. Ever. (or since yesterday) Dont know if the op is trolling, looking to get attn, or just a ridiculous devils advocate.
 

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I think what the original poster MIGHT be trying to say is....will Tony ever be confident to throw the ball up like he did to Dez in OT...and expect Williams to go "get" the ball. When you catch the way Williams does...you do not meet the ball at it's highest point...so QBs will be cautious about giving you a chance to make a play. And that does handcuff the offense...because Williams is in one on one OFTEN...and Tony needs to feel comfortable going to him...instead of throwing into double coverage forcing the issue with Dez. If you look at all of his picks this year...he was caught FORCING the ball into Dez..and once to Witten. Tony is going to have to become more accustomed to giving Williams those chances...but Williams has to give him a reason to give him those chances.

Couldn't have said it better.
 

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Very few teams have a #2 WR as good as Williams.

No, we're not exactly trotting out Randy Moss/Cris Carter/Jake Reed or Isaac Bruce/Torry Holt, but Dez/Williams/Beasley should be able to get the job done, along with Witten and Escobar if we ever decide to involve him in the gameplan.
 

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I think what the original poster MIGHT be trying to say is....will Tony ever be confident to throw the ball up like he did to Dez in OT...and expect Williams to go "get" the ball. When you catch the way Williams does...you do not meet the ball at it's highest point...so QBs will be cautious about giving you a chance to make a play. And that does handcuff the offense...because Williams is in one on one OFTEN...and Tony needs to feel comfortable going to him...instead of throwing into double coverage forcing the issue with Dez. If you look at all of his picks this year...he was caught FORCING the ball into Dez..and once to Witten. Tony is going to have to become more accustomed to giving Williams those chances...but Williams has to give him a reason to give him those chances.

That is a well thought out post.

Let me counter with...

If Romo is worried about those situations...why has he thrown it so much to TWILL, in the endzone to a tune of 5 TD Catches (and more attempts in the endzone) and also that heave ho he let go after Watts missing him?

I think he feels more than comfortable going towards Williams as it is right now.

However, if Williams continues to have some troubles with the drops that could change and that is regardless if he catches it with his body or snatches it out of the air.

Something else that should really be considered before throwing up dramatic thread titles.
Williams is the #2 WR on this team. Dez is far and away the #1.

There are a few teams out there with better #2s but Williams is a pretty darn good #2 and his TDs stats thus far prove so.
 
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Williams will never be a guy that goes up with his hands and makes plays on the ball like Dez and other great hands receivers do. But he still has 5 TDs and still runs good routes and makes plays. No, he'll never be a superstar, but he doesn't have to be.

He doesn't have bad hands by the way. He doesn't drop the ball a lot. He just doesn't attack the ball with his hands. Not all receivers do.
 

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If T-Will had the ability to pluck balls out of the air like Dez, he probably would've went in the 1st round. I'll admit that when we first drafted him, the body catching stood out during his youtube highlights like a sore thumb and really concerned me.

Luckily even with this flaw, he does just about everything else really well. Good speed, runs crisp routes, physical run blocker, decent YAC ability, good at improvising when Tony is out of the pocket, good teammate. We'll just have to live with his wart.
 
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