Parsons looks like a boom or bust pick to me

[Jake]

What were those skills that he showed on tape that Jaylon didn’t have? Please do tell.

One big difference is Parsons' knee didn't get destroyed his last collegiate game. Smith's never been the same, and won't be, making the Cowboys' reach (and subsequent contract) questionable decisions to go along with the others by Jethro & Son.

 

[CowboyRoy]

These clowns think they got me or something because I pointed out Jaylons strengths and said that Parsons has the same strengths unless he proves he can cover which he still hasn’t shown.


I’m also admitting that I didn’t see this edge rush / Von Miller type presence from him. Especially with Dallas being a 4-3 team.

If he’s lining up and rushing the QB consistently then that matters more than covering.

If he was just a blitzing MLB then how often are you gonna blitz that guy? He has to impact the pass game or he’s just a fast Jaylon.

You were dead wrong and your not man enough to admit it. Nothing new for you.

 

[CATCH17]

Soon to be if not already 250 lbs, 4.39 speed.. dont care if he needs to schooled a few times in coverage ,, he will learn and become better in coverage, point is
Parsons is our best player on this entire defense,, peeps even questioning MPs playability is simply being lazy irresponsible not knowing what they are even talking about.
Best D player in the draft and we got to add Wright because of the trade down pick.
I believe Wright was the result,, no I have to go look to confirm... lol

Lol oh my. Anointing oil is out heavy.

If he doesn’t have a impact on the pass game as a rusher or coverage guy then the pick is a waste. No matter how many tackles he racks up. Lots of guys can get lots of tackle.

If the QB drops back to throw and he has no impact on the game then he wasn’t worth a first rounder.

Like I said in my opening sentence in this thread. He may be able to do it but it’s a projection and I’ve admitted what I didn’t account for was for him to be used as a Von Miller type off the edge because we run a 4-3 defense.

If he rushes off the edge as consistently as Von Miller does and provides pressure then I could care less if he can cover.

 

[CATCH17]

You were dead wrong and your not man enough to admit it. Nothing new for you.

Which part was I wrong about?

 

[quickccc]

They believed Jaylon was a two year project when they drafted him,, the patience of Jerry is truly amazing.

i don't blame Jerry as he entrusted in his medical staff and specialists that even performed the key surgery that convinced Jerry, scouts that Jaylon had a chance to
be very close to once top 10 overall prospect he used to be pre-injury.

They believed (hoped) Jaylon would eventually recaptured the lateral movement and bend that he previously had at Notre Dame before he had
the horrific ACL and nerve damage knee injury.

While it looked promising early on, when he was going forward and straight-linish, but he's an utter mess when he has to change directions or move
laterally.

I often wondered if a lot of his downfall flaws to his game (coverage, edge rush, stuck to blockers, mis-guessing gaps, etc ) has to do with him trying to over compensate for
those knee issues.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Parsons question marks coming out of college was his coverage at times and his angles. What's so hard to understand about that?

"Negatives: Instincts run hot and cold. Inefficient getting to the action. Does not drive through tackles. Possesses average ball skills in coverage."

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/micah-parsons-nfl-draft-player-profile-penn-state-linebacker/

Need to watch the guy play not read scouting reports.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Which part was I wrong about?

-him and jaylon are similar
-parsons won’t impact the passing game
-you didn’t like the pick
-parsons is weak in coverage

 

[75boyz]

These clowns think they got me or something because I pointed out Jaylons strengths and said that Parsons has the same strengths unless he proves he can cover which he still hasn’t shown.


I’m also admitting that I didn’t see this edge rush / Von Miller type presence from him. Especially with Dallas being a 4-3 team.

If he’s lining up and rushing the QB consistently then that matters more than covering.

If he was just a blitzing MLB then how often are you gonna blitz that guy? He has to impact the pass game or he’s just a fast Jaylon.

Did you really expect all of the "generational talent" linebacker scouts employed here to collectively be objective and admit to some areas of weakness in his game?
You know the crowd agendas and narratives approach here by now. It's mob driven. If one guy who is perceived by the board as having genuine cred here makes a statement, it will likely be parroted by another and then another until certified as CZ gospel.

If you happen to be in disagreement with said gospel then you will be blackballed.

You already know all this stuff though.

Stick to your guns bro.

Opinions are not regulated here.

Differences welcome.

jmo

 

[CowboyRoy]

Which part was I wrong about?

I hated the Wright pick and thus far he is proving me wrong. I actually love what I see from him. I said he was weak on tackling. I was wrong about all of it.

see……no shame in admitting it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did you really expect all of the "generational talent" linebacker scouts employed here to collectively be objective and admit to some areas of weakness in his game?
You know the crowd agendas and narratives approach here by now. It's mob driven. If one guy who is perceived by the board as having genuine cred here makes a statement, it will likely be parroted by another and then another until certified as CZ gospel.

If you happen to be in disagreement with said gospel then you will be blackballed.

You already know all this stuff though.

Stick to your guns bro.

Opinions are not regulated here.

Differences welcome.

jmo

He doesn’t have any weaknesses other than experience.

 

[HungryLion]

What were those skills that he showed on tape that Jaylon didn’t have? Please do tell.

He showed the ability to rush the passer and to cover both in the short zones and man to man


He just didn’t do it that often at Penn State. But he definitely showed the ability. Just gotta watch the games.

 

[CATCH17]

-him and jaylon are similar
-parsons won’t impact the passing game
-you didn’t like the pick
-parsons is weak in coverage

You’re using absolutes.

1. I wasn’t a fan of the Parsons pick. I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong if he’s a pass rusher because that is what I wanted.

2. His weakness is coverage but I said this..

He has to prove he can cover or it’s a bust.

He runs a 4.39 40..

Im not saying he can’t cover but it’s a projection.

3. He hasn’t proven to have a impact on the passing game yet. If he gets ate up by Offensive tackles .I’m hoping he can help the pass rush and could care less if he can cover right now unless he can’t rush the passer then we go back to can he cover. If he can’t cover then it’s just a waste of a pick.

4. He does have the same skill set as Jaylon. Everything else is a projection we’ve never seen.

 

[phildadon86]

He has to prove he can cover or it’s a bust.

He runs a 4.39 40.. NFL linebackers in this era have to be able to cover.

He’s just a old school sideline to sideline and downhill guy.

That’s cool until Andy Reid decides to spread your team out and isolate you and get you cover TEs that run like wideouts and RBs who can play like wideouts.

Im not saying he can’t cover but it’s a projection.

Parsons was the best defensive player in the draft. And will be a perennial all-pro. Hes already flashed in pre season and will become one of the top LBs in the league. You're basically saying. "if he doesnt turn into Bobby Wagner hes a bust" because we didnt trade up for a QB like you wanted.

Oh AND he can rush the passer. This kid is an absolute stud.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Cocaine is a hellava drug…

 

[HungryLion]

These clowns think they got me or something because I pointed out Jaylons strengths and said that Parsons has the same strengths unless he proves he can cover which he still hasn’t shown.


I’m also admitting that I didn’t see this edge rush / Von Miller type presence from him. Especially with Dallas being a 4-3 team.

If he’s lining up and rushing the QB consistently then that matters more than covering.

If he was just a blitzing MLB then how often are you gonna blitz that guy? He has to impact the pass game or he’s just a fast Jaylon.

This clown is completely and totally unable to admit when he was wrong.

that’s the issue.

then you deflect and you twist arguments rather than just be like “yeah Parsons isn’t really that similar to Jaylon”

 

[Pantone282C]

Cocaine is a hellava drug…

Crack kills.

 

[CATCH17]

Parsons was the best defensive player in the draft. And will be a perennial all-pro. Hes already flashed in pre season and will become one of the top LBs in the league. You're basically saying. "if he doesnt turn into Bobby Wagner hes a bust" because we didnt trade up for a QB like you wanted.

I wanted a QB, offensive tackle, Horn, or Phillips.

We know the Cowboys preferred DBs over Parsons as well.


If Parsons brings consistent pass rush then I’ll admit I should’ve had him ranked higher because I always have high value on pass rushers. I viewed him as a classic 4/3 linebacker (like many other people lol) that hadn’t shown he could cover in a league that demands linebackers to cover. Especially first round linebackers.

 

[CATCH17]

This clown is completely and totally unable to admit when he was wrong.

that’s the issue.

then you deflect and you twist arguments rather than just be like “yeah Parsons isn’t really that similar to Jaylon”

I never twisted **** buddy you’re the one who twisted my words dummy.

Jaylon Smith Skill set doesn’t mean he won’t be better than Jaylon. It means they have the same tools in the bag.

If he doesn’t impact the pass game then you just drafted a faster Jaylon Smith and I stand by that. He needs to impact the pass game. Now you stop twisting my words.

 

[HungryLion]

I never twisted **** buddy you’re the one who twisted my words dummy.

Jaylon Smith Skill set doesn’t mean he won’t be better than Jaylon. It means they have the same tools in the bag.

Except they don’t. Parsons movement is light years ahead of post injury Jaylon.

so you’re either blind or stupid to think otherwise.

you can’t watch Parsons move and watch Jaylon move and think it’s anywhere similar. You would have to be blind.


Your arrogance won’t allow you to admit anything though. So you just keep twisting things.

 

[CATCH17]

Except they don’t. Parsons movement is light years ahead of post injury Jaylon.

so you’re either blind or stupid to think otherwise.

you can’t watch Parsons move and watch Jaylon move and think it’s anywhere similar. You would have to be blind.

Where did I say his movement wasn’t better??? Show me or shut up and just admit to yourself that you’re trying to have a gotchya moment over things I’ve never said.

I said they have the same skill set and I stand by that. Parsons covering is pure projection at this point and him being an edge rusher is something I’ve admitted to being wrong about because I didn’t see him doing that for us in a 4-3.