Petrino on Zimmer

[gbrittain]

One has two SBs, has brought another team to a SB, has brought yet another team to an AFC Championship game and will be in the HOF.

The other has been here 13 years and best he's managed is a job offer at Nebraska. (no knock on local Nebraskans)

But wilee that's all in the past....

Shutup, its still football.

So you would be all in favor of bringing in Jimmy Johnson to replace BP?

 

[wileedog]

So you would be all in favor of bringing in Jimmy Johnson to replace BP?

Without that whole completely mediocre thing for 4 years at Miami, sure.

And for the record, Bill has done a better job here in 4 years then he did there.

But keep pining for a Fox analyst 7 years out of football.

 

[iceberg]

One has two SBs, has brought another team to a SB, has brought yet another team to an AFC Championship game and will be in the HOF.

The other has been here 13 years and best he's managed is a job offer at Nebraska. (no knock on local Nebraskans)

But wilee that's all in the past....

Shutup, its still football.

so you allow people to live off of the past and not the present? if that's the case then all the hero's are dead and there can be no new greatness for it's all gone ahead of us and we're left on our own.

i don't buy it.

we won superbowls w/o parcells, he's not the last great white hope.

 

[gbrittain]

Without that whole completely mediocre thing for 4 years at Miami, sure.

And for the record, Bill has done a better job here in 4 years then he did there.

But keep pining for a Fox analyst 7 years out of football.

I am not piping for him as you say. I am not going to lie and say that it would not bring a bunch of excitement and high expecations to Dallas, but I am more on board for a young hungry guy myself. Someone looking to make a name and establish himself. Neither BP nor Jimmy fit the bil. In all honesty though, if I am choosing between BP and Jimmy it is a no brainer for me.

I am all for BP with his two Super Bowls and all without that whole mediocre thing for 4 years in Dallas, sure.

 

[wileedog]

we won superbowls w/o parcells, he's not the last great white hope.

For the love of Pete I never said he was. Please stop with the extremes.

But comparing Mike Friggin Zimmer to a HOF coach and wondering why there is a double standard is like comparing Emmitt to T-Ham and wondering why people didn't give Hambrick more slack.

 

[Little Jr]

Ranking means nothing. Our D didn't come close to being dominant before BP. At least now it's a little closer. And even better now that that sorry POS is Zimmer is gone.



I picked 1 stat cuz it's been the biggest GLARING weakness on this team the last 7 years, but even MORE SO before BP got here.


By the way, our D finished #1 in the NFL in 2003, and I still wanted Zimmer gone that year.


You've got some serious lack of football knowledge if you're actually backing that piece of crap (Zimmer). Go ahead and go be a Falcons fan now if you like.

Anyone who thinks this was Zims D since BP has been here has a serious lack of football knowledge. Every thing you or I have have to complain about the D falls on BP. Lack of blitzing, lack of pressure, lack of hidding the blitz and any other complaints we have. BP saw the same thing we did and more but yet didnt change anything. It's been stated before that BP had to take out different schemes that Zim wanted to run.


Do you honestly think that BP jsut sat on the side and let Zim do whatever he wanted?


I also remember people complaining about SP's conservative play calling while here was here. I also remember pointing out who the HC was. Look what he did at NO.

 

[wileedog]

Anyone who thinks this was Zims D since BP has been here has a serious lack of football knowledge.

The best part of when I see a post including the words "a serious lack of football knowledge." is that I know the poster is a friggin idiot.

Zimms D had every single problem you described *before* Parcells came here.

Thanks for playing.

 

[gbrittain]

The best part of when I see a post including the words "a serious lack of football knowledge." is that I know the poster is a friggin idiot.

Zimms D had every single problem you described *before* Parcells came here.

Thanks for playing.

I do not dispute the Zimmer is a moron angle. Most likely he is. I do wonder though if us mortals are screaming that we knew Zimmer was a moron back seven years ago could someone please explain to me why Zimmer endured for four years under Parcells?

You would think Parcells is as smart as us and would have let him go, reassigned him, took over the defensive game planning or did something?

 

[iceberg]

For the love of Pete I never said he was. Please stop with the extremes.

But comparing Mike Friggin Zimmer to a HOF coach and wondering why there is a double standard is like comparing Emmitt to T-Ham and wondering why people didn't give Hambrick more slack.

in this case it really has nothing to do w/zimmer in as much as i tire of the "but who's better???" mantra.

someone has to be better than .505 in 4 years. let's go find him.

 

[Da Hammer]

i'll have to agree. it's short sighted to say it's all on zimmer when his defense was a lot better BP (before parcells). i think he'll do well in atlanta and some people will just never admit he's a good coach.

ive recently come around and blame Parcells a lot more for our D than Zimmer although i am still glad he's gone because he doesnt fit at all coaching the 3-4. but yea i think Zimmer will help turnaround the Falcons D now that he will be coaching the 4-3 again and people will realize he's not that bad a coach... As for the Cowboys unless we get rid of the Real Problem which is Parcells we will continue to have the same mediocre D every year

 

[Cochese]

I cant wait to play Atlanta sometime and abuse them with dumpoff passes to the fullback. It will be amazing.

 

[wileedog]

I do not dispute the Zimmer is a moron angle. Most likely he is. I do wonder though if us mortals are screaming that we knew Zimmer was a moron back seven years ago could someone please explain to me why Zimmer endured for four years under Parcells?

You would think Parcells is as smart as us and would have let him go, reassigned him, took over the defensive game planning or did something?

There are rumors that keeping Zimmer was a Jerry thing, although anything bad tends to get attributed to Jerry so I take that with a grain of salt.

That said, when Bill took on Payton there was plenty of head shaking and gnashing of teeth, but he turned out ok. So its conceivable Bill saw something that just didn't materialize. Hey, Maurice Carthon is looking for work too, but Bill still has a pretty impressive coaching tree. Can't hit on all of them.

 

[2233boys]

Petrino said Monday he wants the Falcons to run a 4-3 defense. "One of my critical hires will be my defensive coordinator," Petrino said Monday. "It's certainly going to be very important to me. I want to be able to play the game very aggressive and be able to come after the quarterback. Obviously, you have to stop the run first."

Something tells me Petrino is in for a surprise.

And you hired Zimmer?:laugh2: :laugh1:

 

[wileedog]

in this case it really has nothing to do w/zimmer in as much as i tire of the "but who's better???" mantra.

someone has to be better than .505 in 4 years. let's go find him.

Wow that sounds simple.

Why can't the Cardinals or Browns figure that out?

 

[2233boys]

Lack of blitzing, lack of pressure, lack of hidding the blitz and any other complaints we have.

Huh and Zimmer's defenses were the exact same prior to Parcells coming here too... Wow... Couldn't be Zimmer though, he is a GAWD!!!!!

 

[Seven]

I dunno. These things can always backfire. I used to bash Sean Payton's offense in both New York and Dallas.

Common denominator?

 

[Seven]

Yeah good luck with that, Petrino.

and be able to come after the quarterback

 

[texastwister]

I have a question for the Zim supporters-


If BP was holding Zimmer back because of his conservative gameplan and the 3-4 defensivie change then who in the hell was holding back Zimmer prior to BP? Dave Campo? Jerry? Who I ask
The defense has had the same problems ever since Zimmer has been the coach people. No pass rush no secondary coverage.
Only DC that teaches the DB not to look for the ball Only DC that has his DE play run first then look for pass. Wait till he tells Abraham he cant run around that corner 35 mph, that he must read the run first then try and get to the QB before he throws the 5 step drop.

 

[Rack]

Anyone who thinks this was Zims D since BP has been here has a serious lack of football knowledge.

Sorry I didn't realize you were Zimmer's freakin' jock strap and knew every little detail that goes on at VR.

The best part of when I see a post including the words "a serious lack of football knowledge." is that I know the poster is a friggin idiot.

Zimms D had every single problem you described *before* Parcells came here.

Thanks for playing.

X 1000.


I agree with EVERYTHING you said in that post.

 

[gbrittain]

I have a question for the Zim supporters-


If BP was holding Zimmer back because of his conservative gameplan and the 3-4 defensivie change then who in the hell was holding back Zimmer prior to BP? Dave Campo? Jerry? Who I ask
The defense has had the same problems ever since Zimmer has been the coach people. No pass rush no secondary coverage.
Only DC that teaches the DB not to look for the ball Only DC that has his DE play run first then look for pass. Wait till he tells Abraham he cant run around that corner 35 mph, that he must read the run first then try and get to the QB before he throws the 5 step drop.

There are a few but not too many Zimmer supporters out there. The problem is there are quite a few people not willing to let Zimmer to take all the blame for the defensive woes we have had.