News: PFT: Jerry Jones: I thought we would have coached it up enough to win without Romo

[rynochop]

"Jerry sucks, until he agrees with me!" - Cowboyszone.

Lol, that Jerry Executive of the year honeymoon didn't last long, I guess it cut down on the Jerry cross thru his picture avatar everyone was sporting lol

 

[CATCH17]

What?? There offense has never been the issue. He runs his version or our offense, but is creative. He uses all his weapons and is a master playcaller. Escobar, Hannah, Beas would all be involved.

He's a diciple of Parcells as well and the Jones family loves this guy.

This is a win win. Fire the offensive staff, and keep Rod. SB next year with health.

If this move is there to be made and we are serious about winning then Jerry has to be all over this.

The Dallas Cowboys deserve a top flight coach like Sean Payton.

Let Garrett go to Cleveland or some crap hole like that where he belongs and be a QB coach.

 

[Aven8]

If this move is there to be made and we are serious about winning then Jerry has to be all over this.

The Dallas Cowboys deserve a top flight coach like Sean Payton.

Let Garrett go to Cleveland or some crap hole like that where he belongs and be a QB coach.

I know you know this Catch, but if we don't change offensive schemes we will never sniff a SB with Romo. Never!

 

[CATCH17]

I know you know this Catch, but if we don't change offensive schemes we will never sniff a SB with Romo. Never!

I mean... We saw a way around it last year with the ability to impose our will on the ground and hope Romo can make plays on 3rd downs.

But I agree with you.. I don't think we can consistently depend on that to get us a title against the very best teams in the NFL.

It takes more than just hoping you can out-athlete the other team.

 

[Aven8]

I mean... We saw a way around it last year with the ability to impose our will on the ground and hope Romo can make plays on 3rd downs.

But I agree with you.. I don't think we can consistently depend on that to get us a title against the very best teams in the NFL.

It takes more than just hoping you can out-athlete the other team.

That's my point. We don't need the OPOY in our back field. We do eith JG's scheme though. What great weapons do NE and Seattle have, outside of Beastmode?

 

[noshame]

I'm telling ya, this all began after chatting with Jon Gruden last weekend.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Me too jerry but I forgot who was on the coaching staff.

 

[reddyuta]

We run the most basic Offense and Defense,heck Alabama do more to get their WRs open than we do.It took Marinelli 14 weeks to consistently blitz after the season is almost over.we could have won one or 2 games if he ran the same D after Romo went down instead of his dumb 3 man rush.It clear this Staff is not suited for the modern NFL game.let see how long Jerry keeps them around.

 

[reddyuta]

I read in one of my management books that you do not want to work for a nervous boss. And you definitely don't want to be the one making the boss nervous.

Jerry really put himself behind the eight ball when he signed Garrett to the long term contract last year. Jerry was bidding against no one for Garrett's services. Jerry could have offered Garrett a one or two year extension after last season. No team was offering Garrett squat. One fluke season clouded Jerry's judgement along with his friendship and liking Garrett. Jerry gifted that contract to Garrett. Jerry also made the same mistake with Linehan and thought he was better than he actually was. Turns out Romo was 95% of the tactical brains behind the coaching and Garrett and Linehan just rode his coattails.

I'm not sure what Jerry can do at this stage other than eat Garrett and Linehan's guaranteed contracts. Probably around $30M overall. Jerry has enough money to just write it off since he makes around $250-300M per year roughly from the Cowboys. Perhaps there are ways to make Garrett and Linehan unhappy enough to just leave. Maybe giving playcalling to someone else, stripping Garrett of time management during game time etc. Perhaps making someone an assistant head coach (wink wink) and treating that person like a head coach during meetings.

Maybe Jerry just wants to light a fire under the inept offensive coaches Garrett and Linehan have been this year. There has been no creativeness or ingenuity at all from the Cowboys for a long time. Ray Lewis said the Ravens knew exactly what the Cowboys would do several years ago. Bellicek even said this year that the Cowboys focus on execution and do nothing to make you guess. Been that way for years and years and has gotten worse under Garrett.

Garrett and Linehan went conservative and closed the playbook up when they should have opened the playbook up and got creative and played with a nothing-to-lose mentality.

Jerry doesnt care about the Coaches salary,he owns the greatest sports franchise in the world.He is keeping Garrett around for continuity but now he has realized that this guy is a moron.

 

[skinsscalper]

The only thing I blame Jerry for is hiring Garrett.


Jerry and McClay have put together a very good team that also happens to have a franchise QB.


Stop blaming Jerry for Garretts shortcomings. Jerry and McClay have done their part.

False. Jerry admitted earlier in the season that he failed at properly addressing the back up QB position only weeks after claiming Weeden threw the "prettiest deep ball" he'd ever seen.

Now, that doesn't excuse Garrett and I've made that known in several threads. But, no, Jones and McClay didn't "do their part". They assembled a respectable amount of talent on both sides of the ball at the starting positions and failed miserably at developing/signing depth at literally every single skill position on offense while simultaneously completely bumbling the RB position on this team.

The failure of this season can be laid at the feet of, literally, every single level of this organization from the front office to the ball boy (that kid sucks).

 

[TheDude]

Agreed. Can't see JG getting fired, with that contract. It'll probably be position coaches again, like QB/WR/ST.

Any plan to finally get Wilson and Dooley purged is a great start

 

[CATCH17]

False. Jerry admitted earlier in the season that he failed at properly addressing the back up QB position only weeks after claiming Weeden threw the "prettiest deep ball" he'd ever seen.

Now, that doesn't excuse Garrett and I've made that known in several threads. But, no, Jones and McClay didn't "do their part". They assembled a respectable amount of talent on both sides of the ball at the starting positions and failed miserably at developing/signing depth at literally every single skill position on offense while simultaneously completely bumbling the RB position on this team.

The failure of this season can be laid at the feet of, literally, every single level of this organization from the front office to the ball boy (that kid sucks).

Jerry is just now figuring it out after years and years that his coaches don't scheme up anything.


There isn't a QB that he would've got better results with that wasn't a top 10 QB or a very mobile QB that could make plays outside of the scheme.

We have built a team that doesn't need to be so QB dependent.


Our tendencies killed us and absolutely destroyed any chance for a player like Weeden or Cassell to really have success.

Brandon Weeden has won games in this league with less experience on less talented rosters.

Cassell has won plenty of games in this league and imo is easily a top 5 backup and could probably start for a few teams in this league.

 

[jobberone]

Quarterbacks coach is in charge of making sure backup quarterbacks are properly prepared and evaluated, right? Nobody ever mentions this as a position that should be looked at. And to me its the most obvious.

QB coach should have had the accurate evaluation of Weeden. And he should have let the OC and the HC know that Weeden was not a player to count on. He had most of two years with Weeden practicing every Wednesday with the first team while Romo rested. Plenty of time to get the proper evaluation and communicate it up the chain.

I've mentioned Romo, Wilson, and Garrett multiple times as being responsible for that debacle but you said it better. I think others have mentioned Wilson, too. But the point is I agree they dropped the ball on that and it may have cost us a shot at a SB.

 

[jobberone]

Jerry is just now figuring it out after years and years that his coaches don't scheme up anything.


There isn't a QB that he would've got better results with that wasn't a top 10 QB or a very mobile QB that could make plays outside of the scheme.

We have built a team that doesn't need to be so QB dependent.


Our tendencies killed us and absolutely destroyed any chance for a player like Weeden or Cassell to really have success.

Brandon Weeden has won games in this league with less experience.

Cassell has won plenty of games in this league and imo is easily a top 5 backup and could probably start for a few teams in this league.

Many here have mentioned all the coaches except the LB coach but I agree they get too cozy with the coaches and players. Jerry is loyal to a fault.

 

[morasp]

Weeden was put in a position to fail.

Us not winning a game is not 100% on him.

The coaches made us the most predictable we have ever been with him as our QB.

I also thought the coaching could have been better. They did seem to be ultra conservative on offense with WeDone. It's hard to say though that if he we had a more experienced backup to Romo that they wouldn't have opened it up a little.

 

[erod]

Complain all you want about Jerry but he put a team on the field this year that you yourself thought was clearly the most talented in the division and a legit SB contender.

And they couldn't win just one stinking game over a 7 game stretch with no Romo. So either you completely and utterly overestimated the talent on this team or Garrett is just a mediocre coach. Because if this team is as talented as you claimed, they should have been able to to win a couple of games without Romo but didn't and that FALLS SQUARELY on this coaching staff.

Throw in a resume of sheer mediocrity and it's obvious to anyone who is really looking hard that while Jerry has his faults, one of his biggest might be thinking Garrett is better than he really is.

You lose your QB, you're done. That's football. Yes, this team was a SB contender, but not without him, and especially not when Brandon Weeden and his lilly-livered courage was backing him up.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It's clear Jerry isn't happy.

I don't see Garrett getting fired, but there will be change.

yeah Jerry usually doesn't crap on his coaches like this. Maybe he already has a wink wink deal with Sean Payton.

 

[erod]

The 'Garrett as a martyr' narrative.

First, we had the Garrett is the second coming narrative, then we had the Garrett needs to uproot Wade's loser culture narrative, then the Garrett needs talent to be the second coming narrative, then the Garrett is the savior narrative, and now finally, Garrett is a martyr.

One for each season he fails at giving the team some kind of competitive, emotional, or tactical advantage

Garrett is still Garrett. Nothing has changed.

But today, we live in social media to fire everybody, blow it up, press the nuke button, on a moment's notice. There's this massive medium for nobodies in nowhereland to join in unison and scream from the mountaintops about everything under the sun.

About 25 fanbases want to fire their coaches right now. Then, they'll just swap for another fired coach, and around and around it goes. Fire Garrett, who can't win without Romo, and hire Payton, who can't win without Brees. Regurgitate the retreads.

 

[Gaede]

Garrett is still Garrett. Nothing has changed.

But today, we live in social media to fire everybody, blow it up, press the nuke button, on a moment's notice. There's this massive medium for nobodies in nowhereland to join in unison and scream from the mountaintops about everything under the sun.

About 25 fanbases want to fire their coaches right now. Then, they'll just swap for another fired coach, and around and around it goes. Fire Garrett, who can't win without Romo, and hire Payton, who can't win without Brees. Regurgitate the retreads.

OK, so how does any of this 'blame the unwashed masses' attitude = Garrett deserves to keep his job?

 

[skinsscalper]

Jerry is just now figuring it out after years and years that his coaches don't scheme up anything.


There isn't a QB that he would've got better results with that wasn't a top 10 QB or a very mobile QB that could make plays outside of the scheme.

We have built a team that doesn't need to be so QB dependent.


Our tendencies killed us and absolutely destroyed any chance for a player like Weeden or Cassell to really have success.

Brandon Weeden has won games in this league with less experience on less talented rosters.

Cassell has won plenty of games in this league and imo is easily a top 5 backup and could probably start for a few teams in this league.

Brandon Weeden is a joke and had no business being in the same state as the Dallas Cowboys. He is 5-15 as a starter in this league and was on pace for his career average before he got yanked. When you start defending Brandon Weeden to try and make a point about Jason Garret, you've lost all credibility.

As for Cassell, we opened things wide up for him and he rewarded us with 3 picks in his first outing, surprisingly, in a loss. And if he could be starting for ANY team in the league, he would be.

The fact remains that the FO has, for the most part, failed at addressing the position since Aikman retired (we lucked into Tony and had Carter not been cut Romo would have been). That's on Jones and McClay (McClay's culpability is limited to the past few years).

Even an idiot can recognize that, at that particular position, that Cowboys have been woefully inept, especially when you consider the age, health, and recent injury history of the guy you've currently got at the position.

Defending the likes of Weeden and Cassell is a pathetic and desperate attempt to excuse the FO's ineptitude in that area. It also fails to address the issue of depth at the other skill positions and the joke that we currently call an offensive backfield.