News: PFT: Jerry Jones: I thought we would have coached it up enough to win without Romo

[Zman5]

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Not sure what Jerry saw over the years to make him believe this coaching staff was capable of doing more with less. I didnt see it.

Jerry saw the Princeton degree and equated that with Super Bowl wins. Probably was drunk out of his mind as usual when he had that vision.

 

[Sydla]

You lose your QB, you're done. That's football. Yes, this team was a SB contender, but not without him, and especially not when Brandon Weeden and his lilly-livered courage was backing him up.

Except teams have shown the ability to win games with backups. All people are talking about is maybe go 1-6 or 2-5 in that 7 game stretch. If this team was truly a SB caliber team, then yes, they should be able to win a game or two over a 7 game stretch with a backup QB. And if they can't that's a direct problem with the coaching staff.

You'll eventually understand that......... after we waste a few more years on Garrett leading this team.

 

[Zman5]

You lose your QB, you're done. That's football. Yes, this team was a SB contender, but not without him, and especially not when Brandon Weeden and his lilly-livered courage was backing him up.

Go tell that to the 49ers rookie HC. Tell him his doing it all wrong. Tell him, he shouldn't be winning games in his first year, losing all the good players from last year and playing his backup QB. A backup QB that was kicked off from the Jaguars.

 

[Sydla]

Garrett is still Garrett. Nothing has changed.

But today, we live in social media to fire everybody, blow it up, press the nuke button, on a moment's notice. There's this massive medium for nobodies in nowhereland to join in unison and scream from the mountaintops about everything under the sun.

About 25 fanbases want to fire their coaches right now. Then, they'll just swap for another fired coach, and around and around it goes. Fire Garrett, who can't win without Romo, and hire Payton, who can't win without Brees. Regurgitate the retreads.

How many games has Payton played without Brees?

And what's the point of this line of reasoning either? Are you trying to argue that Payton isn't a better coach than Garrett?

 

[khiladi]

Payton's had a first ballet HOF qb and has one superbowl that he got lucky in winning. I guess I'm just not as enamored with him as many are. And to quote the Mickster, if he.s so great......

He has a first ballet HOF that pretty much San Diego traded, because they didn't know he was a first ballot HOF yet..

Kind of like Payton getting us Romo..

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Exactly,

Blaming the losses on bad luck is just excuse making. For a coach in his 5th full season to be able to win just one dam game without his starting QB is laughably bad

Jerry apparently agrees

Since when is Jerry Jones the weathervane around here?

The OL has been a disappointment. Collins was a tremendous talent who was likely a first round draft pick if he didn't have the off the field situation prior to the draft. So did Pollack really develop him? It's not like Pollack took some undrafted kid from Idaho State and turned him into a starting OG. He took a kid that was likely a first round pick and would have started anywhere else from the beginning.

Seeing that LC used to lunge and get out over the top of his blocks constantly at LSU and now he doesn't I would say yes. He looks more and more polished in his reps week by week. Of course he developed him as well as working with the rest of them.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He has a first ballet HOF that pretty much San Diego traded, because they didn't know he was a first ballot HOF yet..

Kind of like Payton getting us Romo..

Brees was a serviceable QB when he was traded but he became all world under Payton. He has developed a steady string of prospects over the years in NO. Most people care about clock management. This is what I care about.

 

[erod]

OK, so how does any of this 'blame the unwashed masses' attitude = Garrett deserves to keep his job?

I just haven't forgotten 12-4.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If anybody watched the video of Jerry's post game comments he was gushing about the defense. He must have aaid it 5 times. So Marinelli is safe.

He was also very telling about Dez. He said when Dez finally got a full week of practice and when he does he's ready. IMO he's probably pissed that he just signed him for 70 million and barely seen him. This whole offense should be built around him, especially now with a backup QB.

But if you think that canning a WR coach, or Oline coach is going to do anything your crazy.

If you listen to Stephen, he gushes about Linehan as a OC too.

Why on Earth are you taking guy's their word at face value? Even if he says what you want to hear you guys should have learned by now.

 

[erod]

Except teams have shown the ability to win games with backups. All people are talking about is maybe go 1-6 or 2-5 in that 7 game stretch. If this team was truly a SB caliber team, then yes, they should be able to win a game or two over a 7 game stretch with a backup QB. And if they can't that's a direct problem with the coaching staff.

You'll eventually understand that......... after we waste a few more years on Garrett leading this team.

Two overtime losses. A one-point loss to Seattle. Dez gave away Tampa.

It's not as simple as just Garrett.

 

[mattjames2010]

I personally give Garrett another year. I think losing Murray in the offseason and then Dez and Romo made this team out of sync. The defense losing players early on didn't help either.

I'm chalking this up as a lost season.

 

[Aven8]

If you listen to Stephen, he gushes about Linehan as a OC too.

Why on Earth are you taking guy's their word at face value? Even if he says what you want to hear you guys should have learned by now.

I knew Jerry was being honest as it was just after the game. Stephens was a day later.

However judging by both comments that means JG is the only one out!!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I personally give Garrett another year. I think losing Murray in the offseason and then Dez and Romo made this team out of sync. The defense losing players early on didn't help either.

I'm chalking this up as a lost season.

What do you think of a win against GB should it happen?

 

[Sydla]

Two overtime losses. A one-point loss to Seattle. Dez gave away Tampa.

It's not as simple as just Garrett.

Don't get me wrong........... there are issues beyond just Garrett. There are some roster issues that need to be fixed as well.

But it's clear Garrett is not an upper echelon coach and this organization shouldn't let a few roster issues deflect from the fact that the coaching staff hasn't done a great job themselves.

Garrett has one good year out of 5 so it's not like he has some great track record to fall back on that allows one to just ignore this season. He's been pretty much an average head coach for much of his career.

 

[Sydla]

One more thing that always makes me chuckle. It's the defense of a coach using the logic that the players have to play better. That they had too many penalties this game, and then made too many boneheaded plays the next, and then had too many turnovers in another game, and player X screwed that game up and Player Y screwed that other game up, and we lacked fundamentals in another game, etc............

Ummmm................ you just defined a poorly coached team. Coaches get fired for teams that make mistakes and lose games. Why? Because they largely make mistakes and lose games because they aren't properly coached, prepared, etc.

 

[mattjames2010]

What do you think of a win against GB should it happen?

I'll be really impressed if we win against GB. In a way, I'm a little impressed we beat the Commanders since they are tough even when Romo is starting.

I guess if we get a win Sunday afternoon, I'll be optimistic about running the table.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Of course, there will be another fall guy outside of Garrett, you know, because he's "family" and all.

Jones is disappointed with Garrett like a father is disappointed with his teenage son for getting bad grades one semester after doing so well in the previous one after he thought he turned the corner, and average in all his previous ones before that.

Good analogy bro..............Garrett is like a C student that made straight A's one semester and then went back to making C's.

The Parents (insert Jerry) are looking at the kid thinking "what the hell?"

The same reaction Jerry had watching the end of the Skins game.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Yep, someone must take the blame for misevaluating Weeden, and the QB Coach is the closest one to him.

And somebody must fall on the sword for having the 29th ranked offense.........Linehan probably should not make any major purchases.

 

[Beast_from_East]

So what you're saying is you think Jerry Jones is a mathematician? Or has at least studied the history of 1 score game results?

Have you ever heard the saying, "the man with the gold makes the rules?".

When the owner of the team says it is bad coaching, doesn't matter what anybody else says because he is the one signing the paychecks.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Garrett is still Garrett. Nothing has changed.

But today, we live in social media to fire everybody, blow it up, press the nuke button, on a moment's notice. There's this massive medium for nobodies in nowhereland to join in unison and scream from the mountaintops about everything under the sun.

About 25 fanbases want to fire their coaches right now. Then, they'll just swap for another fired coach, and around and around it goes. Fire Garrett, who can't win without Romo, and hire Payton, who can't win without Brees. Regurgitate the retreads.

Brees has missed exactly one game since he signed with the Saint's.............yea, Payton not winning that one game Brees missed is the same as Garrett not being able to win a game all dam season.................apples to oranges my friend.

And as far as this being knee jerk, Garrett is completing his 5th full season on the job and has broken the 8 win marker just one time.

And yes, you are done if you lose your starting QB as far as a SB run goes, but you dam sure don't lose every single game. I see teams week in and week out trotting out 2nd and 3rd stringers and getting wins.

Losing 7 consecutive games in the NFL is a sign of bad coaching, plain and simple............Jerry is finally starting to realize this.