Pre-Draft PC Jerry, Stephen and Jason at 1:00 CST 04/25

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For all those getting their panties wadded up (in a good way or bad) over Elliot, understand this. The press conference trio walked out, sat down, and then Jerry asked if anyone had any introductory comments. Nobody did so they went right into questions. The reporters asked about Elliot so that's why the topic came up. They could have asked about Shawn Oakman (and knowing Jerry he would have had nothing bad to say) and everyone would suddenly be saying that he was going to be a day 2 pick by the Cowboys. The same thing with Ramsay - they were asked a few questions about him. If the reporters asked about Treadwell or any of the other WRs we'd all be hearing about how they were now going to be in consideration at 4.

These press conferences are about as meaningless as it comes. They must be NFL mandated hence the need to trot out the Jones show.

The one thing I do get out of it is how aimless Jerry seems to be. He went on a missive about big contracts to established stars and unproven rookies and seemed to contradict himself a few times. He also took what seemed like minutes to spit out a sentence. A true transcript of his talk, including the non-vocabulary noises, would be a treat to try to decode. Public Speaking 101 instructors have to be weeping when they watch that nonsense.

Jason is a master at saying virtually nothing at a press conference. He might as well have pre-packaged cue cards or just hold up a shaken Magic 8 Ball ("All Signs Point To Yes!") whenever asked something.

One of the most lucid things I have read on this site recently was the comment about what Elliot would make in his rookie deal compared to all RB deals around the NFL. The poster then compared that to the same draft slot with Tunsil compared to other NFL Tackle contracts. That's the sort of sound thinking that people should consider. If Dallas drafts a RB with the 4th pick they have to expect that he will be the best at his position sight unseen. You can't pick a guy like Ki-Jana Carter or Ronnie Brown in this day and age and miss since you'll be paying uber-premium RB money. I would be stunned if the Dallas "braintrust" (being generous here) thinks that makes good team salary structure sense.

As for Jerry saying that they planned on staying at 4, what should he say? That they are dying to trade down? Of course they will listen to offers. Considering they need several players on D, I think that makes the most sense. Get a pass rusher that would be a reach at 4, pick up extra picks, and try to fill as many holes as possible. Stevie's comments about how they used free agency to fill holes so that they could select any position sounded like rhetoric. A solid follow up question would have been, "Who did you really pick up in free agency?" Since it was a draft press conference, they just moved on.
 

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Jalen Ramsey leeps off the tape per JG, lack of intercepts could be because they go away from Jalen.

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Seems like it is between Ramsey and Zeke and just from my feeling, to be fair the feed kept buffering so I might have missed some...It looks like if Ramsey is there he is the one.

Felt that too. IMO Ramsey is going to get eaten up in the NFL with these misdirection routes and picks. You look at what teams did to him this yr, everything on him was intermediate, and alot of comebacks. Miami made him look avg doing that this yr and ND made him look bad in 2014, so much that he started arguing with his teammates in between plays. I could live with either pick as long as its not Bosa.
 

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I think Elliott is a smokescreen and they aren't even considering him at #4.

I don't know about smokescreen but I heard nothing in that press conference that would give anyone the idea they are favoring Zeke over Bosa.

It is clear at least from JG that he was all in for Ramsey, but I heard nothing that gave a indication who they would prefer next Zeke or Bosa.
 

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If I was not at work I would suggest we have a drinking game and everyone takes a drink when Jerry says Ummm OR When Jerry does his famous smile and wink move when he thinks he is making a good joke.

I'm still drunk from doing this last year at this time....:lmao:
 

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it's funny Stephen said they brought in Deion to tell them what makes a great CB. Like come one. You know you brought him in to discuss jalen lol real obvious

then maybe it was deion who told them he wasnt a good prospect at CB?
 

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Newman at 5. Claiborne at 6. Why would you and why would you want to do that again?

I pray San Diego selects Ramsey! If for nothing else, it saves us!

#zekefreak #itstheabs
 

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1. I believe they're split on Elliott and Ramsey, assuming both are available. We will probably read about how the room was divided sometime after the draft.

2. I'd almost rule out a trade down at this point. If they do, it will only be down 3 spots max. Stephen basically said there aren't many great players at the top of the draft. So depending on who goes 3rd(SD) and what they hear from Jax/Balt as far as their plans, and who is trying to trade up, maybe the Cowboys feel comfortable dropping down a few spots still getting one of the few guys they really like. At this point, I'd say it's unlikely.

3. Don't be surprised to see 3 offensive players drafted with their first 5 picks. Elliot, a WR and then QB.

I would take that bet on #3.
 

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I don't know about smokescreen but I heard nothing in that press conference that would give anyone the idea they are favoring Zeke over Bosa.

It is clear at least from JG that he was all in for Ramsey, but I heard nothing that gave a indication who they would prefer next Zeke or Bosa.

Since they really didn't bring up Bosa except to say the reason he may not get picked had nothing to do with character, I would say it's Ramsey or Elliott. While those players were mentioned, Jerry kept bringing Ramsey up even when he wasn't asked about him. I am still hoping for the trade down but they might be trying to get teams thinking they are going to have to trade up to get Ramsey or Elliott if they want them.
 

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Felt that too. IMO Ramsey is going to get eaten up in the NFL with these misdirection routes and picks. You look at what teams did to him this yr, everything on him was intermediate, and alot of comebacks. Miami made him look avg doing that this yr and ND made him look bad in 2014, so much that he started arguing with his teammates in between plays. I could live with either pick as long as its not Bosa.

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Since they really didn't bring up Bosa except to say the reason he may not get picked had nothing to do with character, I would say it's Ramsey or Elliott. While those players were mentioned, Jerry kept bringing Ramsey up even when he wasn't asked about him. I am still hoping for the trade down but they might be trying to get teams thinking they are going to have to trade up to get Ramsey or Elliott if they want them.

They talked about the players that where brought up to them and it was JG that went on about Ramsey.

The question about Bosa was around character issues and Jerry said basically it was not a reason not to draft him.

The asked if Zeke could be considered a top ten player, SJ said yes and Jerry did his value thing on RB's.

They responded to the questions that the reporters asked in the context the reporter asked them.

They gave us nothing on who they had higher Zeke or Bosa.
 

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For all those getting their panties wadded up (in a good way or bad) over Elliot, understand this. The press conference trio walked out, sat down, and then Jerry asked if anyone had any introductory comments. Nobody did so they went right into questions. The reporters asked about Elliot so that's why the topic came up. They could have asked about Shawn Oakman (and knowing Jerry he would have had nothing bad to say) and everyone would suddenly be saying that he was going to be a day 2 pick by the Cowboys. The same thing with Ramsay - they were asked a few questions about him. If the reporters asked about Treadwell or any of the other WRs we'd all be hearing about how they were now going to be in consideration at 4.

These press conferences are about as meaningless as it comes. They must be NFL mandated hence the need to trot out the Jones show.

The one thing I do get out of it is how aimless Jerry seems to be. He went on a missive about big contracts to established stars and unproven rookies and seemed to contradict himself a few times. He also took what seemed like minutes to spit out a sentence. A true transcript of his talk, including the non-vocabulary noises, would be a treat to try to decode. Public Speaking 101 instructors have to be weeping when they watch that nonsense.

Jason is a master at saying virtually nothing at a press conference. He might as well have pre-packaged cue cards or just hold up a shaken Magic 8 Ball ("All Signs Point To Yes!") whenever asked something.

One of the most lucid things I have read on this site recently was the comment about what Elliot would make in his rookie deal compared to all RB deals around the NFL. The poster then compared that to the same draft slot with Tunsil compared to other NFL Tackle contracts. That's the sort of sound thinking that people should consider. If Dallas drafts a RB with the 4th pick they have to expect that he will be the best at his position sight unseen. You can't pick a guy like Ki-Jana Carter or Ronnie Brown in this day and age and miss since you'll be paying uber-premium RB money. I would be stunned if the Dallas "braintrust" (being generous here) thinks that makes good team salary structure sense.

As for Jerry saying that they planned on staying at 4, what should he say? That they are dying to trade down? Of course they will listen to offers. Considering they need several players on D, I think that makes the most sense. Get a pass rusher that would be a reach at 4, pick up extra picks, and try to fill as many holes as possible. Stevie's comments about how they used free agency to fill holes so that they could select any position sounded like rhetoric. A solid follow up question would have been, "Who did you really pick up in free agency?" Since it was a draft press conference, they just moved on.

Agreed good post and is what I heard.
 

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According to 'The Break', Deion wasn't impressed with Ramsey as a corner prospect.
 

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Lot of talk lately about Buckner who makes a lot of sense for them. OL is a bit of overkill for them because they have signed free agents at LT and RT...not huge deals but still enough that you wouldn't want them sitting on the pine. I would think it is Ramsey or Buckner for them.

I really see SD trading out of the spot.
 

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I would take that bet on #3.

It all hinges on Elliot being the 1st pick. If so, yes I definitely could see the next 4 Cowboys picks being DL, WR, DB, QB.

I get the vibe they want a contributing WR out of this draft. Probably have to use that 3rd rounder or even trade up into the mid/late 2nd.
 

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I honestly don't know how Ramsey is such a higher rated prospect than Jones. Maybe Jones was really under rated, maybe Ramsey is really over rated, maybe a little of both. But I think Jones is at least as good of a prospect as Ramsey is.
I was a huge fan of Byron Jones last year pre-draft. Huge fan. But Ramsey is without a doubt a better prospect at this point. He just has a little more to him. He's more a "football player" where Jones was more raw.
 
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