ProFootballNetwork ranks Dak 6

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Aaron Rodgers wasn’t good last year. He threw for 3600 yards 26 TDS and 12 interceptions….

Aaron Rodgers wasn’t good last year. He threw for 3600 yards 26 TDS and 12 interceptions….

Aaron Rogers sucked last year....and isn't a great teammate. 12ish seems about right

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

After top 5 does it really matter.

I mean honestly none of it matters. Nick Foles is a SB champion and he’s not top anything lol. Josh Allen is a consensus top 3 quarterback and has nothing to show for it.

 

[Redline360]

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-offensive-line-ranked-among-leagues-best-2023-season#:~:text=After so many years of,heading into the 2023 season.


Oops.

No oops season hasn't started yet. As previously stated his OL have been trash so far.

 

[jazzcat22]

Ranking Aaron Rodgers at #10 and Dak Prescott as the #6 best QB in the league says it all about the validity of this ranking.

Actually it validates the list.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No oops season hasn't started yet. As previously stated his OL have been trash so far.

That’s based on last season lol…..your opinion of them was true at one point but it’s outdated.

 

[Typhus]

I mean honestly none of it matters. Nick Foles is a SB champion and he’s not top anything lol. Josh Allen is a consensus top 3 quarterback and has nothing to show for it.

The constant debate back and forth pro or con Dak is meaningless, this team is good enough to win with Dak and lose with Dak, like every other team in the league.
Reid is the lucky dude in the league, but doesnt mean they cant be beat.

 

[Typhus]

This team is building and has been building on both sides, all sides offense and defense and don't discount special teams.
They can change the rules on returns, but STs still matter.
We have a virtual harvest of stash players that can develop on teams play.
When you look at the depth on this entire roster and start looking at possibly players like Goodwin getting bounced out just from the youth and depth, then there is simply no other way to ignore this.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The constant debate back and forth pro or con Dak is meaningless, this team is good enough to win with Dak and lose with Dak, like every other team in the league.
Reid is the lucky dude in the league, but doesnt mean they cant be beat.

I don’t disagree a bit.

 

[removed_20241105]

This pretty much sums up the whole thing. Within 4 posts of each other someone points out that no QB has a led their offense to more points than Dak in the last 3 years and yet somehow Kellen Moore's offense didn't do him any favors.

So McCarthy has essentially already said he is fine with fewer points if that means better ball control (TOP / fewer turnovers / better-rested defense). Let's just say that formula works and we win a super bowl then Dak is viewed as a bus driver who was on a great team and if we have a season that 31 other teams have then McCarthy gets fired and Dak is a loser who should have been replaced years ago.

So much of a guy's story gets written early on. Romo was far and away better than Eli, but Eli has a shot at the HOF with very average stats because he was the number 1 pick and won two super bowls off of the Giant's pass rush. The whole thing is kind of dumb.

Any QB in the top 10-15 can win a super bowl with the right guys around them. Jones' insistence on overpaying guys and focusing on starter quality at the expense of depth is the reason we haven't won in so long. We are awesome for the first few weeks until invariably starters begin to go down with injuries (or off-field suspensions) and the guys behind them are borderline players. That's what has killed us for so long.

Outstanding!!!

 

[Redline360]

That’s based on last season lol…..your opinion of them was true at one point but it’s outdated.

Not outdated just what it is.

The were above average at best last year. Cousins best OL he's seen as a Viking though. Still night and day overall to what Dak has had.

 

[Swagger]

Actually it validates the list.

Sooooo Dak Prescott is better than a QB that was MVP in 2 of the last 3 seasons. Sure Rodgers had an average year last season behind a banged up o line whilst playing with a broken thumb without a WR1...

 

[Yobwocs]

Not even I would put Dak above Rodgers, but he's better than Hurts, Lawrence, Jackson, and as previous poster points out, he's FAR superior to Cousins.

And I think Dak is gonna have a bigger season than Allen and Burrow - because their division is about to swallow them up. And as for Herbert, Dak has better numbers than he does anyways. Including surpassing 100.0 rating twice - a mark Herbert has never touched. Surpassing 12 wins 3 times, a mark Herbert has never touched. Herbert has had 5000 yards once, but that's only because he's played in 17 games while Dak has never played 17 games before in his life, and he got hurt early on in 2020 - otherwise he shatters 5000.

I'd say this ranking looks about right.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not outdated just what it is.

The were above average at best last year. Cousins best OL he's seen as a Viking though. Still night and day overall to what Dak has had.

Vikings line graded out better than the Cowboys lol….and the only reason they are close is because Tyron who didn’t even play.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Not to mention that there are new QBs entering the league every year so top ten to start the year doesn’t mean you won’t just drop out of that by the end of the season. Also yes, the top 4 guys lead the pack as QBs that are difference makers and after that it’s a massive drop off

So your saying Allen is a difference maker? Seriously look at the same stats that Dak gets judged by and then let's revisit this chat.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

I mean he has had some clunkers on prime time for sure but it's a team game...lolz

Washington was a horrible team, Vikings trash OL his entire career, and bar several years tmedicore to trash defenses

We can make excuses all day

When it's all said and done Dak has had a vastly superior supporting cast on offense then Cousins and he still puts up similar if not argurably better stats

Imo not a huge gap between them at all. Cousins has always got hate and well any cowboys QB is media hype machine good or had

Stats aren't excuses, this is the laziest argument this site has seen. Cousins is on Daks level? That's beyond laughable

 

[805BoysInBlue]

I mean honestly none of it matters. Nick Foles is a SB champion and he’s not top anything lol. Josh Allen is a consensus top 3 quarterback and has nothing to show for it.

Allen is all hype, he was bad towards the 2nd half of last season. Herbert is hype too to be honest. Talents there but they get a pass for whatever reason.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Allen is all hype, he was bad towards the 2nd half of last season. Herbert is hype too to be honest. Talents there but they get a pass for whatever reason.

I’ve said the same thing. The Herbert and Allen hype is so silly people make excuses for them that they lack talent which is completely wrong.

 

[Yobwocs]

I’ve said the same thing. The Herbert and Allen hype is so silly people make excuses for them that they lack talent which is completely wrong.

They have plenty of talent on their team - the Quarterback has to take some of the blame for their inability to take their teams over the hump just like Dak gets constantly.

Buffalo just can't get past the Chiefs because the Chiefs are hard to beat. Just like the Cowboys can't get past the 49ers because it's not easy to beat them - they have a great team on both sides of the ball, with a top NFL coach who has owned McCarthy in every single game they've played in, including 2016 Atlanta vs Green Bay.

 

[DogFace]

I can also cherry pick certain stats too. Talk about lazy ways of looking at stuff. Beyond silly approach without looking at the bigger picture.

Comparing them since 2016. Yes dak was a rookie and learning so not exactly the best comparison but...

Dak has had a vastly superior supporting cast around him his entire career . Vikings OL was complete trash from 2018-2021 ranking in the mid to low 20s. 2017 ranked 14th and last year was either 18 or 19 I believe(which still sucks). Dak also benifits from a superior run game bar the 2020 season.

Cousins has better comp %, td %, and better qbr. Y/A and AY/A the same along with a couple other stats. Dak is superior in less turnover and turnerver %.

Playoffs Cousins has better QBR and Comp%

This all playing behind a vastly inferior OL. Trust me I hate arguing the "stats" approach and don't think either quarterback is going to lead their team to a superbowl on their shoulders.

I too can find memes or twitter posts suggesting certain cherry picked stats that show he's superior to even mahomes.

Cherry pick? He listed like 10 categories. How many are there even?

 

[DogFace]

I don't think the best players are any better than the past few decades--I'm sure players like LT and Reggie While would still be the best at their positions--but like the NBA, the average player is better than ever. I have virtually no doubt that the average back up lineman/LB/DB today is better than the same from 20 years ago.

That is an excellent take about football and sports in general that I’ve never heard and I agree with it.