RB expendable Debate

[Nightman]

Tell me why youve stated twice now that Gurley had 208 yards in week 6 and how it pertains to the conversation?

Who the hell cares? Stops blabbing

if you can't follow along then leave the adults table

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

if you can't follow along then leave the adults table

Thats exactly what I thought lmao

Read before you write is thw wisdom ill leave you with.

Cant give a reason why after realizing you were wrong, tuck your tail and run little boy.b

 

[Nightman]

Thats exactly what I thought lmao

Read before you write is thw wisdom ill leave you with.

Cant give a reason why after realizing you were wrong, tuck your tail and run little boy.b

Gulrey is 10x the RB CJ is

Next year Draft CJ in your man crush draft and I will take Gurley .....see who gets more points

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Gulrey is 10x the RB CJ is

Next year Draft CJ in your man crush draft and I will take Gurley .....see who gets more points

And another post that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

You have been kicked out of the adults table because you cant follow a conversation.

 

[cnuball21]

Gulrey is 10x the RB CJ is

Next year Draft CJ in your man crush draft and I will take Gurley .....see who gets more points

Gurley is a better back for sure...but at what cost?

The point is do you throw huge contracts at RB's when you get fairly close production at a fraction of the cost?

Look around the league in week 17, and you'll see a few great games from backups.

 

[kskboys]

I think it really comes down to the RB.

As far as that goes, the CB position is even more expendable. Just need decent ones.

 

[Nightman]

Gurley is a better back for sure...but at what cost?

The point is do you throw huge contracts at RB's when you get fairly close production at a fraction of the cost?

Look around the league in week 17, and you'll see a few great games from backups.

I already told you fresh legs and teams that quit

The elite RBs all come from the early 1st round.... they do it year after year

CJ Anderson, Damien Williams, Jamaal Williams are bounce around guys that have never proven they can be the lead guy

Just like Joe Randle, McFadden and Morris failed in the RBBC here after DMurray

Gurley, Elliott, Barkley, McCaffery are worth the cost..... Leveon Bell is an outlier

 

[kskboys]

I already told you fresh legs and teams that quit

The elite RBs all come from the early 1st round.... they do it year after year

CJ Anderson, Damien Williams, Jamaal Williams are bounce around guys that have never proven they can be the lead guy

Just like Joe Randle, McFadden and Morris failed in the RBBC here after DMurray

Gurley, Elliott, Barkley, McCaffery are worth the cost..... Leveon Bell is an outlier

People got started on the BSPN babble that RB's were worthless, and some just bought into it hook line and sinker. Look at how important Fornette was last year. Eagles running game took off when they acquired Ajayi.

 

[Nightman]

People got started on the BSPN babble that RB's were worthless, and some just bought into it hook line and sinker. Look at how important Fornette was last year. Eagles running game took off when they acquired Ajayi.

The whole thread is after a Week 16 game against ARI.......jeeeeshhh

 

[Praxit]

..kidding me, just Zeke's attitude let alone aptitude is worth $$$. Zeke is special player.

 

[cnuball21]

I already told you fresh legs and teams that quit

The elite RBs all come from the early 1st round.... they do it year after year

CJ Anderson, Damien Williams, Jamaal Williams are bounce around guys that have never proven they can be the lead guy

Just like Joe Randle, McFadden and Morris failed in the RBBC here after DMurray

Gurley, Elliott, Barkley, McCaffery are worth the cost..... Leveon Bell is an outlier

10 of the top 15 yards leaders this year were not 1st rounders...

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm not touching the top numbers for CBs, DTs, or OGs with Zeke's contract.

It's been proven time over time that RBs are expendable and are the position most dependent on external factors. Beef up those external factors with the cap saved, and find a value RB in the draft which happens 8x every year.

Bell thought of as a top 1, 2, or 3 RB misses a season and Pitt improves
Melvin Gordon goes down? Nothing changes
Todd Gurley misses a series? A UDFA comes in and makes a ridiculous YAC TD
Saquan plays incredible and his team is still a dumpster fire.
Kareem Hunt(top 10 RB) goes down and they plug his backup in and they dont miss a step. His backup Spencer Ware goes down and they turn to a castoff in Damien Williams and he comes in first start and collects 100 total yards and 2 TDs.

This replacement of performance simply doesnt happen for any other position.

Save your cap $ and draft capital and always go cheap at RB unless an insane bargain presents itself

Get that 3rd round comp for Zeke or trade him prior

But but but Zeke is on my fantasy team!

BTW I've had Zeke in my 4 figure fantasy league as a keeper and have been happy with production. Don't hate the player hate that my team threw away its top pick in a decade for a player that you don't really want to give a 2nd contract.

Zeke was top 5 in salary before he ever set foot on a professional football field. Post new CBA RB is the only position this happens. Every other position top picks are HUGE bargains relative to their top paid peers.

So we're paying top money for a position that ROUTINELY gets production from cheap draft picks and udfas.

Sad!

 

[cnuball21]

8 of the top 10 offenses in PPG are doing it without a 1st round RB...

 

[JayFord]

Our offense is based around having a back that can get 25-30 carries for atleast 100 yards and 5 catches for 40 yards.

If we dont have zeke we need to get a stud who can duplicate that.

With that said yes elliott should be the highest paid rb in the league no question hes never missed a game due to injury.

If they have to cut zeke for money reasons you draft tyrons replacement because hes hurting you draft freds replacement if he cant go and you plug thos guys in with suafilo martin and looney(as the ace in the hole)

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

8 of the top 10 offenses in PPG are doing it without a 1st round RB...

And one of those two has had their 1st rounder sit and his understudy(ies) both performed almost as well as the incumbent.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Gurley is a better back for sure...but at what cost?

The point is do you throw huge contracts at RB's when you get fairly close production at a fraction of the cost?

Look around the league in week 17, and you'll see a few great games from backups.

It's not just the production but the effect a great RB has on the whole offense and opposing defense. Scouting talent in Week 17 is dubious at best, since many teams have all but packed up for the off season. A few RBs have great games during preseason too, doesn't mean that they can replicate that during meaningful games.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

People got started on the BSPN babble that RB's were worthless, and some just bought into it hook line and sinker. Look at how important Fornette was last year. Eagles running game took off when they acquired Ajayi.

Jags were better without Fournette than with Fournette last year. That's a great point to bring up regarding not sinking big assets into RBs.

And ESPN actually is arguing the opposite that RBs still matter when they dont.

 

[Established1971]

Been seeing a lot of talk about the upcoming decision of what we do with Dak...and rightfully so, as I feel like he’s been incredibly inconsistent but that is another conversation.

What about Zeke? Obviously this dude is the heart and soul of our O. I was on record saying we should’ve drafted Ramsey due to how easy it is to draft serviceable RBs. Not saying we made the wrong decision bc Zeke has been stelllar... but look around the league...

Steelers
Chargers
Chiefs
Etc...

Key RBs go down and life goes on...

Not saying don’t pay the dude, but I think it’s a serious question to be considered whether or not we make him the highest paid RB in the league moving forward at the expense of paying other guys on the team.

Life didn't go on for us in 2017 when Zeke was out. Nor did this season start off well when he was rusty from an offseason and hardly any touches in preseason

 

[Established1971]

Jags were better without Fournette than with Fournette last year. That's a great point to bring up regarding not sinking big assets into RBs.

And ESPN actually is arguing the opposite that RBs still matter when they dont.

The Jags were better w/o Fournette? I deg to biffer

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Life didn't go on for us in 2017 when Zeke was out.

Tyron being out was the difference, not Zeke.

Nor did this season start off well when he was rusty from an offseason and hardly any touches in preseason

So now we are blaming the 3-5 start on Zeke being rusty from the offseason? Even though he did the same thing in both his first two seasons. Ugh