Really bad story on Gregory

waldoputty said:
Charles Haley reviewed really bad info on Gregory and how far Cowboys are going to help him.

"I come out there to help him [Gregory], and he tells people he wants to fight me. So I'm done," Haley said. 'okay you don't have to do this for long. Call me. You can come live with me.' But you know what? You're going to do A, B, and C [if you're living with me]. But he don't want to do it, so *** it.

The five-time Super Bowl champion went on to lament the way the franchise is coddling the second-year Gregory. "Jerry and them baby him by putting somebody in that house with him," Haley said. "They never made him be responsible for himself. Maybe the best thing for him is to be free. Because you know what? At the end of the day, at the end of the year, you know Jerry and them ain't going to keep him around, so I don't understand."

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I say send all druggies to Ethiopia and let them live that lifestyle for a year.
 
Trouty said:
Doesn't mean I hold a candle stick to the knowledge that folks like you and Plankton have. I'm in my early thirties and just started becoming a student of the game. Some of you have been students for a decade plus.

My 'likes received' are indicative of my fanaticism and wackiness, I believe. Yours are from indepth takes. I always "like" your posts, B (unless you're in an argument :)), same with Plankton. Both of you will always have me in your corners. True football minds. There are so many here, but I digress.

I have the utmost respect for the football minds, almost sevants, of this site. But I digress (again, grrr:)) that's why I won't let Gregory put a wedge between my postings and my favorite posters.
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I am all for second and even third chances.....I am clearly not a 'respect the rules' guy......I like to push boundaries......but the weed policy is a joke.......skip the combine if you are dirty and get clean before your first test.......that means every year you test once in camp and that is it....you literally have to stay clean for less than a month and then it is weedfest for the rest of the year

Once you fail you can still get out of the program in 90 days the first time....then it resets to zero.....the NFL can hardly make their policy any less stringent.......they just have to make examples of the couple idiots that keep getting caught like Gordon and Gregory
 
bkight13 said:
I am all for second and even third chances.....I am clearly not a 'respect the rules' guy......I like to push boundaries......but the weed policy is a joke.......skip the combine if you are dirty and get clean before your first test.......that means every year you test once in camp and that is it....you literally have to stay clean for less than a month and then it is weedfest for the rest of the year

Once you fail you can still get out of the program in 90 days the first time....then it resets to zero.....the NFL can hardly make their policy any less stringent.......they just have to make examples of the couple idiots that keep getting caught like Gordon and Gregory
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Gregory, for the life of me, lacks the strength to hold off from weed. It's almost as if it's a meth or heroin addiction, but it isn't. There's more to this story. I'm genuinely perplexed that weed can cause these guys (Gordon included) to not abstain for the months or weeks when they're tested.
 
I'd have just kicked Gregory's teeth in and, with that over with, then let him know I'm still willing to help.
 
Some people want to be fired so they don't quit. Let this guy live his life man he's just born tall and fast this isn't for him
 
waldoputty said:
Charles Haley reviewed really bad info on Gregory and how far Cowboys are going to help him.

"I come out there to help him [Gregory], and he tells people he wants to fight me. So I'm done," Haley said. 'okay you don't have to do this for long. Call me. You can come live with me.' But you know what? You're going to do A, B, and C [if you're living with me]. But he don't want to do it, so *** it.

The five-time Super Bowl champion went on to lament the way the franchise is coddling the second-year Gregory. "Jerry and them baby him by putting somebody in that house with him," Haley said. "They never made him be responsible for himself. Maybe the best thing for him is to be free. Because you know what? At the end of the day, at the end of the year, you know Jerry and them ain't going to keep him around, so I don't understand."

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The team had a person that was responsible for going by his house and waking him up for meetings and practice, and he was still consistently late/absent. Randy Gregory is the definition of wasted talent not to mention a wasted pick. He will finish his career with zero career sacks
 
sunbum said:
understood, was really trying to break it down to the simplest of terms. I see pot being banned as the most arbitrary as a rule could be. It upsets me in Gregory's case because it's preventing this young man from realizing his potential. I get it, it's a rule and it's his fault he cannot abstain, however, with a flick of a switch, pot will be ok. Terrible substance today, medicinal one tomorrow.
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You're assuming that it'll change and no one knows for sure if it will. The weed is not preventing Gregory from playing, Gregory is preventing himself from playing. Some employers have rules; some have rules that other employers don't. If I went to the Bunny Ranch tomorrow with a pocket full of money and met some lovely working ladies, I'd be fired from my job the next day even though it would be completely legal in a regulated industry. I know the rule(s) and if I want to keep my current job, then my actions have consequences when it goes against company policy even if that activity was "legal."

And lets say for the sake of argument the weed rules do change, I still think NFL owners who invest million on players will think twice before giving players like Gregory big money.
 
Dodger12 said:
You're assuming that it'll change and no one knows for sure if it will. The weed is not preventing Gregory from playing, Gregory is preventing himself from playing. Some employers have rules; some have rules that other employers don't. If I went to the Bunny Ranch tomorrow with a pocket full of money and met some lovely working ladies, I'd be fired from my job the next day even though it would be completely legal in a regulated industry. I know the rule(s) and if I want to keep my current job, then my actions have consequences when it goes against company policy even if that activity was "legal."

And lets say for the sake of argument the weed rules do change, I still think NFL owners who invest million on players will think twice before giving players like Gregory big money.
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can't argue with that. I seem to think something more than smoking pot is going on with him. Not a smoker myself but know many and not once has it ever become a situation where it affected their life, job, family, etc.
 
I didn't expect the NFL to change its pot policy, but the point made by Schefter (I think) about it being a competitive advantage is significant enough to me that I think it's not an offense within two years. It's clearly an advantage that a CA team could have a player pulled over in CA with weed in their pocket and it results in no league or legal action, but the same thing happening in TX would get the death penalty. ;) Unfair!
 
erod said:
Can't be written here. Far too obscene for this forum.
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To those that don't know what erod is talking about, I suggest reading the book "Boys Will Be Boys" by Jeff Pearlman. The Haley stories in there were disgusting beyond comprehension.
 
hornitosmonster said:
But he owned it and is a different person today.
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I met Charles and spoke with him at church many years ago. It was a brief moment but he didn't blow me off and was more than willing to talk. I was a huge Haley fan as a kid and became a bigger one after that day. I tell you what though, Haley has a fierce limp (or had one then). All those years in the NFL surely has taken its toll......
 
erod said:
Charles Haley isn't one to judge.

That guy is one of the sickest people that ever walked Valley Ranch. Those stories about Haley.........sheesh.
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Yeah He is because He's been there somewhat and learned from it. He knows where this kind of behavior leads.
 
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