Report: Cowboys' free agent target Henry Melton in deep negotiations with Seahawks, may miss Dallas

[TheRomoSexual]

For lack of a better alternative, yes. But he has to make it out of Seattle.

Guess you haven't been keeping up with the news, huh?

 

[Alexander]

You do know that Tyson Jackson got a 5 year 25 million dollar deal right? Melton would be closer to doubling that.

Tyson Jackson was also signed in large part because Pioli is now in Atlanta and he is bound and determined to show that he was not the massive reach everyone thought he was. He has something to prove with the player.

 

[MonsterD]

I never cared about cap dealing but can we at him what hatcher got?

My aimless guess is that he wants something like 8.5 mil a year, so I don't think he would.

For lack of a better alternative, yes. But he has to make it out of Seattle.

He did see above posts.

 

[DuDa]

I would happily give Melton a Hatcher-level contract. Even more in fact. He's a perfect fit at a critical position.

Why? He got 7 sacks during his best season and is coming off an ACL and off the field issues. The best option for both parties would be a 1 year deal.

 

[jimmy40]

If melton was all that some are making him sound like. Then why is he still on the market?Why did old man hatcher get signed before he did?

Because he has options?

 

[Alexander]

Guess you haven't been keeping up with the news, huh?

That is also Ian Rapoport. I cannot count the number of times he has been completely wrong.

At any rate, Melton spent an entire weekend there soaking up the process and undoubtedly has the parameters of a deal already worked out with them if he wants it that he can use as a bargaining tool. It is a benefit to going to several stops. He knows what the Vikings want. He knows what Seattle is offering.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Why? He got 7 sacks during his best season and is coming off an ACL and off the field issues. The best option for both parties would be a 1 year deal.

Give me a break. People get way too fixated on raw sack data. The point is he is a highly productive, consistent, pro bowl 3-tech who was groomed by RM. And if you think we are getting him by offering a one year contract, then you are out of your mind.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

That is also Ian Rapoport. I cannot count the number of times he has been completely wrong.

At any rate, Melton spent an entire weekend there soaking up the process and undoubtedly has the parameters of a deal already worked out with them if he wants it that he can use as a bargaining tool. It is a benefit to going to several stops. He knows what the Vikings want. He knows what Seattle is offering.

Can't say I see your point.

 

[yentl911]

He doesn't have an injury "history." He's suffered one injury that is easily repairable nowadays.

Didn't he miss time his Junior year in college as well? Anyway, I am hoping we go in a different direction. The guy seams like a total douchebag to me.

 

[Fredd]

The 90s lines still were not warmed over garbage. There was a nice blend of experience and youth. Hennings, Casillas, Tolbert, Lett, Jimmie Jones and Maryland. Not really stars but almost all of them were capable of starting at any given time.

I understand wanting young hungry players. Fact is though, you cannot have a line completely devoid of experience. Someone has to show these kids how to be professionals. Who's going to lead this line? Two washouts lucky to have the status they do because we are so depth poor in George Selvie and Jeremy Mincey? Crawford and Bass don't even know what they are doing yet. A vet, a successful vet, not one who is basically only here because he was cheap would have helped. Melton at least has a Pro Bowl under his belt and knows what Marinelli wants.

Anava nailed it earlier. People will turn on the DL Whisperer in a heartbeat once this group hits the field.

And one thing about Marinelli. How is he going to tend to the entire defense when he basically will be babysitting a completely inexperienced line? He will not be able to do what he did last year with the parade of scrubs.

couldn't agree more with the bolded part

and, as for babysitting the DL with an entire defense to coach, I will take my chances with RM vs having methuselah doing it last year....I can actually see Marinelli having a large positive impact on some of the position coaches like Eberflus and especially Lett

note: if you go to the DC website, they list Kiffin as Assistant Head coach/Eefense (that's how they spelled it, Eefense)....yup, even the people dealing with the "official" web site can't get things right

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Didn't he miss time his Junior year in college as well? Anyway, I am hoping we go in a different direction. The guy seams like a total douchebag to me.

I personally like douchey dlineman.

 

[Plankton]

If Melton signs with Seattle, then next man up-- Pat Sims come on down!

Pat Sims is a 1T. Not sure that he is much of an upgrade, and he would be coming on board with an injury history and a rep for being out of shape. No thanks.

 

[DuDa]

Give me a break. People get way too fixated on raw sack data. The point is he is a highly productive, consistent, pro bowl 3-tech who was groomed by RM. And if you think we are getting him by offering a one year contract, then you are out of your mind.

If you think that giving a guy with a knee injury and off the field issues a lucrative long term deal is a good idea then you are out of your mind. That is just bad business.

 

[Plankton]

I may be in the minority here but I am not all that hot on Melton. Yes, he may be an upgrade over what we have but he has some character issues and has an injury history. I would have liked to get Peppers - if the price was right but now that he is gone I would like to look at Allen. He is a high character, good work ethic guy that could also provide some guidance to the youngsters that I expect we bring in...by the truckload during and after the draft, I hope.

I just don't think Allen would play for a price we can afford. It would be nice to sign him to an incentive laden deal and then pay him on par with his performance. This D line is in shambles.

By high character, are you referring to Allen's two DUIs when he was a Chief?

 

[Fredd]

I wouldn't normally say this, but with us having nothing on the DL right now, perhaps the team SHOULD look at guys with a little edge to them...perhaps not the type of edge that a guy like Suh brings, but someone that will make the opponent game plan for you...let Melton come in and get in the faces of the other team, tell them that he loves kidney, stuff like that...

 

[Alexander]

Can't say I see your point.

Point is, he has the parameters of two deals in his back pocket. Nothing says he would not prefer either over what Dallas is likely to offer or is willing to pay being that both teams are in significantly better cap shape than Dallas. It is going to test a lot of theories in place recently.

 

[yentl911]

The 90s lines still were not warmed over garbage. There was a nice blend of experience and youth. Hennings, Casillas, Tolbert, Lett, Jimmie Jones and Maryland. Not really stars but almost all of them were capable of starting at any given time.

I understand wanting young hungry players. Fact is though, you cannot have a line completely devoid of experience. Someone has to show these kids how to be professionals. Who's going to lead this line? Two washouts lucky to have the status they do because we are so depth poor in George Selvie and Jeremy Mincey? Crawford and Bass don't even know what they are doing yet. A vet, a successful vet, not one who is basically only here because he was cheap would have helped. Melton at least has a Pro Bowl under his belt and knows what Marinelli wants.

Anava nailed it earlier. People will turn on the DL Whisperer in a heartbeat once this group hits the field.

And one thing about Marinelli. How is he going to tend to the entire defense when he basically will be babysitting a completely inexperienced line? He will not be able to do what he did last year with the parade of scrubs.

Well you have to start somewhere. I am glad we let Hatcher roll - I don't think he was much of a mentor anyway. Ware is past his prime and I will miss him but we needed to let him go. Get a vet like Allen if he is willing to play for a realistic amount of money would give us a bit of an impact player that could be a good mentor for the young kids.

If Marinelli wants Melton then I am not going to argue but he seams like a douchebag to me and I hope we steer clear. Tank Johnson 2.0.

 

[Alexander]

Pat Sims is a 1T. Not sure that he is much of an upgrade, and he would be coming on board with an injury history and a rep for being out of shape. No thanks.

He is not an upgrade to much. To use the common method of the Spagnola Principle, if he was so good, why would the Raiders let him go? The only reason he was even mentioned as he is the "next on the list", not that there was a lot of thought put into the player or his fit.

 

[yentl911]

Point is, he has the parameters of two deals in his back pocket. Nothing says he would not prefer either over what Dallas is likely to offer or is willing to pay being that both teams are in significantly better cap shape than Dallas. It is going to test a lot of theories in place recently.

One thing that Dallas and Seattle have going for them - and this cannot be overlooked - is that they have no state tax. When signing a contract for millions of dollars, having the state take 8-10% of your pay every year makes a difference. JMO

 

[TheRomoSexual]

If you think that giving a guy with a knee injury and off the field issues a lucrative long term deal is a good idea then you are out of your mind. That is just bad business.

Knee injury? Who doesn't return from an ACL tear? It's almost a non-issue.