Romo on playing the QB position

[Aviano90]

I watched that episode of Football Life a few times. Never did Tony say or even hint that he wasn't that good early in his career.
What he did say was that he worked tirelessly to improve and it wasn't until about 6 years in that he felt like he had really mastered his craft at the highest level.

There's a big difference in saying that someone "wasn't real good" vs "mastering their craft".
If anything this goes against one of the biggest criticisms of Romo that are offered by his detractors.

many say/have said that one of Romo's biggest faults was that he wasn't a true "competitor". Didn't have the desire to excel.
His description of constantly tinkering, working, attempting to improve and perfect what he did, and the realization that it probably didn't take for several years, to me counteracts this fallacious criticism.

The guy was good early. Damn good. But he wasn't content, despite what many say. Just my $.02

He called it his guilty obsession. He wanted to improve on throwing the ball from different angles, foot work, etc. But he also mentioned it wasn't about winning. It was about him getting better.

Romo took flack in 2008 when he claimed if losing was the worst thing that happened to him then he's led a pretty good life. I defended that statement for many years because it was after he used the usual cliches for well past the amount of time he was required to be interviewed. He had been beaten and battered, spitting up blood in the shower, and it's not necessarily a false statement, just a bad one that slipped out after repeating the same answer for too long. Live and learn, so I thought.

But he had the same mentality about not winning a Super Bowl during the Football Life episode. He's the luckiest guy in the world, of course it doesn't bother him.

That's the issue I have with Romo. Winning was not the important thing for Romo, improving HIS abilities was. It makes his padding TD stats near the goal line more understandable now.

If he had Troy Aikman's desire to win combined with Tony's physical abilities, this team could have achieved much more than what it did, IMO.

 

[BoysForLife]

When Romo got injured and was replaced by Prescott, I wanted Romo to be put back in when he was 100% to play. Not sooner. When that time came and went, it became easier to keep Prescott in because the team was playing well. So, as time went on it made sense to me. You're right, we'll never know.
Prescott didn't **** up the postseason, our defense did.

AGain, I would respectfully disagree. Not at all saying our defense played well that day, they had their struggles. But it isn't the first time Aaron Rodgers carved up a defense. That said I agree the defense bore a good deal of responsibility

Whenever you mention Romo's league leading # of 4th quarter comebacks during his period as starter, the inevitable return criticism of Romo opponents is "if he hadn't played so terribly early, he wouldn't have had to lead the comeback". We've all heard it.

if we're going to be consistent, same applies here. For most of the first half Dak was awful and that continued into our 1st possession of the 3rd quarter with that pick. And you know what, those things happen. QB's are human. He had a bad stretch, then got it going but it was just too late to overcome.

I think one could make a real strong argument that we don't fall behind 21-3 in that game if Romo was the starter. AGain--the best we can do is guess, because the reality is what it is and the reality is, the Cowboys--as a team--lost that game that day. GB earned it.

 

[MojaveJT]

too bad he quit. Little wussy.

You mean when he wanted to fight for his job back after injury but JG didn’t have the balls to let him?

Yup, quitter right there.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Only you would set yourself up like this, so he had 45 INT's from 2012 thru 2015 at some point somebody around here will post a video of the 99 TD passes he also threw from 2012 thru 2015, last time i checked that is 2.2 TD's for every INT, very very good ratio in the NFL. Your boy Dak since the start of the 2017 season 1.7 TD's for every INT (that's called average for a QB which is what Dak is). I will wait around for your next snappy comback/reply....lol

Since 2017? Why leave 2016 out?

Get lost with another of your whiny rants.

Here's a fact: Dak is here to stay for a very long time.

I love watching it eat you up. lol

 

[Hennessy_King]

You mean when he wanted to fight for his job back after injury but JG didn’t have the balls to let him?

Yup, quitter right there.

He didn't quit but he was finished. Everytime he got hit he was injured for 8 weeks. That was a fact. He was the reason we had to look for a qb in the offseason.

 

[BoysForLife]

He called it his guilty obsession. He wanted to improve on throwing the ball from different angles, foot work, etc. But he also mentioned it wasn't about winning. It was about him getting better.

Romo took flack in 2008 when he claimed if losing was the worst thing that happened to him then he's led a pretty good life. I defended that statement for many years because it was after he used the usual cliches for well past the amount of time he was required to be interviewed. He had been beaten and battered, spitting up blood in the shower, and it's not necessarily a false statement, just a bad one that slipped out after repeating the same answer for too long. Live and learn, so I thought.

But he had the same mentality about not winning a Super Bowl during the Football Life episode. He's the luckiest guy in the world, of course it doesn't bother him.

That's the issue I have with Romo. Winning was not the important thing for Romo, improving HIS abilities was. It makes his padding TD stats near the goal line more understandable now.

If he had Troy Aikman's desire to win combined with Tony's physical abilities, this team could have achieved much more than what it did, IMO.

I think you are reading into those comments what you want to see. and you know what? I'm sure I do that sometimes also. We all do.

How does him getting better, not go towards winning? The two go hand in hand. If I have a guy on my team, and he has a job to do, and he relentlessly tries to improve his ability to do that job at the highest level, how does that not go toward winning? The comment about the "good life" also is better understood within the context that his dad was battling cancer at the time and the outcome wasn't by any means guaranteed to be positive. I think that (more than the beating in the game) had a lot to do with that comment.

And how about some of the other comments? Remember the 1st broken collarbone? Laying on the field, in unbelievable pain, and when the trainers come out, what was the first thing out of Romo's mouth? Anyone remember?


"Did he catch the pass?"

Guy laying there, excruciating pain, collarbone literally snapped in two.

"Did he catch the pass?"

I love ya Aviano, but this argument that Romo didn't want to win is a non starter. The guy literally allowed his body to be destroyed, to try and win. He had the money. He had the contract. He had the fame. He had everything else that everyone says he was all about. Why would a guy who was "Hollywood" allow himself to be beaten to taht level and keep coming back, when he already had everything else? It had to be about winning. To me, there's no other logical explanation.

 

[America's Cowboy]

People grew up on hot take cheap shot garbage and don't know how to talk about sports any other way.

Watch me prove Staubach was a bum by editing together clips of his picks on youtube lol

No, no one is saying anything about Staubach. Don't bring him into this.

 

[BoysForLife]

He was average then became Good. He wasn't good then became elite.

Respectfully disagree. Dak right now is average.

Romo's early career numbers dwarf what Dak is putting up right now.

Always good to debate with you though Hennessy. You're one of the guys I was talking about earlier. Disagree with you about 99% of the time, yet still enjoy the interaction.

 

[Ken]

Look at you parroting the other guy as if this is some logical argument. Seriously, how sad can you guys be?

Actually...didn't look at any of the other posts but I see great minds think alike.

I love how Romo has reinvented himself as a "spatial awareness" god.

 

[Aviano90]

I love ya Aviano, but this argument that Romo didn't want to win is a non starter.

I'm sure he *wanted* to win, like all players do. But losing was acceptable. That's not a mentality I want in a player. It's why I want the Garrett, Romo, Lee, Witten era of "try hard" leadership out the door.

 

[sean10mm]

He called it his guilty obsession. He wanted to improve on throwing the ball from different angles, foot work, etc. But he also mentioned it wasn't about winning. It was about him getting better.

Romo took flack in 2008 when he claimed if losing was the worst thing that happened to him then he's led a pretty good life. I defended that statement for many years because it was after he used the usual cliches for well past the amount of time he was required to be interviewed. He had been beaten and battered, spitting up blood in the shower, and it's not necessarily a false statement, just a bad one that slipped out after repeating the same answer for too long. Live and learn, so I thought.

But he had the same mentality about not winning a Super Bowl during the Football Life episode. He's the luckiest guy in the world, of course it doesn't bother him.

That's the issue I have with Romo. Winning was not the important thing for Romo, improving HIS abilities was. It makes his padding TD stats near the goal line more understandable now.

If he had Troy Aikman's desire to win combined with Tony's physical abilities, this team could have achieved much more than what it did, IMO.

The quarterback getting better is how the quarterback contributes to the team winning. Your entire line of thinking here is frankly just psychotic.

This thing Cowboys fans do where they try to armchair psychoanalyze Romo, digging for ~secret hidden character faults~ that justify them blaming him for every bad thing that ever happened from 2006-2016, is really creepy.

I love watching it eat you up. lol

I'd rather watch the Cowboys win games.

 

[MojaveJT]

He didn't quit but he was finished. Everytime he got hit he was injured for 8 weeks. That was a fact. He was the reason we had to look for a qb in the offseason.

And I agree with that sentiment. But the post I quoted called him a quitter which is false.

 

[BoysForLife]

I'm sure he *wanted* to win, like all players do. But losing was acceptable. That's not a mentality I want in a player.

If losing was acceptable, no way he steps back onto the field in SF with broken ribs and collapsed lung.
No way.

 

[Aviano90]

If losing was acceptable, no way he steps back onto the field in SF with broken ribs and collapsed lung.
No way.

Then not winning should be eating him up, and it's not.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Respectfully disagree. Dak right now is average.

Romo's early career numbers dwarf what Dak is putting up right now.

Always good to debate with you though Hennessy. You're one of the guys I was talking about earlier. Disagree with you about 99% of the time, yet still enjoy the interaction.

Yes because the offense was different then. Romo was throwing 550 times year dak hasn't thrown for 500 times yet. in a season. Romo also had a way higher int% than dak in his first 3 years. Different offense with way different receiving talent this team has. At that time Romo was an average QB. We just had bad timing. If he was 2013-14 romo in 2007 with that team no doubt we win a SB.

 

[BoysForLife]

Then not winning should be eating him up, and it's not.

We've all been around people who handled things in different ways.

Just because he didn't go on a tirade in front of the media doesn't mean it wasn't eating him up.

When was the last time anyone ever talked about Staubach going off on teh press after a loss? yet no one questions his desire to compete.

No, I'm not saying Romo is = or better than Roger. I'm merely noting some similarities in their personalities. Quiet and humble, yet fiercely competitive and not at all comfortable with losing.

It doesn't take a leader to go off after a loss. Especially if that's not who a person really is.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Since 2017? Why leave 2016 out?

Get lost with another of your whiny rants.

Here's a fact: Dak is here to stay for a very long time.

I love watching it eat you up. lol

Because it has been 2 years since that rookie season and he has been nowhere close to that since, besides you also cherry picked 4 years for Romo. We could go back to say 2009 to 2015 and you know what Romo's TD to INT ratio actually is higher at 2.35 TD's for every INT. You like a dog who keeps chasing his tail round a round you go. One more thing Dak had a phenomonal rookie season no doubt but it has been 24 games since and he is nowhere close to the guy we saw that season and has shown no ability to be that guy again, funny in the NFL teams catch up to what you do and then it becomes on you to up your game. Dak is still the same panicy inacurate QB he actually was in 2016 it's just teams have generally taken away that short easy pass from him (that they gave him all of 2016) and he can't adjust. he is going on 3 full seasons in the league and he is regressing not getting better and those are the facts, Cooper may help him for a game or 2 then teams will adjust to that and it will be back on Dak again

 

[CowboyRoy]

You mean when he wanted to fight for his job back after injury but JG didn’t have the balls to let him?

Yup, quitter right there.

I mean when he was recorded on the sidelines during after the philly win saying that Dak had earned it. Then coming out publicly in a press conference detailing just that. But what I am really talking about how he just up and quit football in the offseason. Didnt want to go play somewhere else and live his dream and didnt want to stay here and compete or wait for the right moment.

In short.........he quit.

 

[HungryLion]

When will the hand wringing about Romo’s career end on this site?

I mean seriously, we are still debating about a player who has been retired for almost two years now?

 

[Hennessy_King]

And I agree with that sentiment. But the post I quoted called him a quitter which is false.

His body quit.

We've all been around people who handled things in different ways.

Just because he didn't go on a tirade in front of the media doesn't mean it wasn't eating him up.

When was the last time anyone ever talked about Staubach going off on teh press after a loss? yet no one questions his desire to compete.

No, I'm not saying Romo is = or better than Roger. I'm merely noting some similarities in their personalities. Quiet and humble, yet fiercely competitive and not at all comfortable with losing.

It doesn't take a leader to go off after a loss. Especially if that's not who a person really is.

To be honest the only thing I hold Romo accountable for is for getting T.O. thrown off the team. I can't stand brown nosers and people that play politics in the office and that's what he did on the football field. Him witten and t.o. would have really made this team contenders in those 8-8 seasons.