Rumor: TO wants new contract?

[STSINAZ]

to is just doing what he does...always

 

[STSINAZ]

anyone remember this????????????????????

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STSINAZ
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well get ready for a contract squabble...he is going to want more money...guarantee it...we cant win without him...his agent will make him hold out...he will want to make the most money in the NFL...

 

[YosemiteSam]

No rule of thumb deal on TO.

He will get some up front money. If he gets hurt... YOU KNOW he will do everything possible to get back out there.

Its a good gamble. You would be betting on a thoroughbred...

A thoroughbred over 35. Even thoroughbred horses usually don't race much after the age of 12ish. Horses live an average of 30 years compared to humans at 72. 12 years of age is comparible to a 29 year old human. Sure there are horses that race longer like Hermosilla who was racing at the age of 15, but that doesn't happen very often. (competitively anyhow) BTW, 15 for a horse is compares to a 36 year old.

While you can point out several 36 year old players, (QBs, OL, kickers/punters, etc) you don't point out many 36 year old WRs, RBs, or CBs!

There aren't many Darrell Green's and Jerry Rice's in the league. TO could be one, but it's a big risk to dump a lot of guaranteed into a 35+ WR.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

A thoroughbred over 35. Even thoroughbred horses usually don't race much after the age of 12ish. Horses live an average of 30 years compared to humans at 72. 12 years of age is comparible to a 29 year old human. Sure there are horses that race longer like Hermosilla who was racing at the age of 15, but that doesn't happen very often. (competitively anyhow) BTW, 15 for a horse is compares to a 36 year old.

While you can point out several 36 year old players, (QBs, OL, kickers/punters, etc) you don't point out many 36 year old WRs, RBs, or CBs!

There aren't many Darrell Green's and Jerry Rice's in the league. TO could be one, but it's a big risk to dump a lot of guaranteed into a 35+ WR.

So you ran with my analogy.

Its a risk that Jerry will take. Book it. I agree with it.

Get a STUD WR opposite TO and he will be very good for atleast 3 more years.

Let him go and the Skins will take him

 

[heathead]

Ok, I live in South Florida and i saw the Sports Extra episode in question. They had Drew Rosenhaus on - as always - and he was asked " Isn't TO due a 3 million roster bonus? Will he get it?" - Rosenhaus' answer was what was quoted on the Eagle board and mentioned at the beginning of this thread. - Not that he wanted a new contract - but was he going to get the bonus.

Now i don't know if he's due a bonus but this is what i heard... he wasn't complaining about a new contract.

 

[YosemiteSam]

So you ran with my analogy.

Its a risk that Jerry will take. Book it. I agree with it.

Get a STUD WR opposite TO and he will be very good for atleast 3 more years.

Let him go and the Skins will take him

I'm not saying let him go. I'm saying if he wants guaranteed money, then let him playout next season. Then look at how his body is holding up and his on field performance. If he is still playing at a very high level, then you can do something. He won't play at this level forever. Jerry has locked himself in a cornor several times with player contracts. With the great players like Aikman and Smith. Today with Roy Williams big contract and other role player contract that were larger and longer than they should have been.

I'm just saying to guarantee money four years away for a player that will be 38 is a very iffy proposition.

 

[superpunk]

Ok, I live in South Florida and i saw the Sports Extra episode in question. They had Drew Rosenhaus on - as always - and he was asked " Isn't TO due a 3 million roster bonus? Will he get it?" - Rosenhaus' answer was what was quoted on the Eagle board and mentioned at the beginning of this thread. - Not that he wanted a new contract - but was he going to get the bonus.

Now i don't know if he's due a bonus but this is what i heard... he wasn't complaining about a new contract.

Thank you for finally being the one person who could handle the thread, lol. So they took what Rosenhaus said, but took it out of context.

 

[heathead]

Yep, Rosenhaus was asked if TO would get the bonus he was due - rosenhaus was like "yeah sure, why not? he had a great season, he scored x amount of TDs', etc..."

 

[adamknite]

Thank you for finally being the one person who could handle the thread, lol. So they took what Rosenhaus said, but took it out of context.

Did you expect anything less from a board comprised of Eagle fans?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'm not saying let him go. I'm saying if he wants guaranteed money, then let him playout next season. Then look at how his body is holding up and his on field performance. If he is still playing at a very high level, then you can do something. He won't play at this level forever. Jerry has locked himself in a cornor several times with player contracts. With the great players like Aikman and Smith. Today with Roy Williams big contract and other role player contract that were larger and longer than they should have been.

I'm just saying to guarantee money four years away for a player that will be 38 is a very iffy proposition.

I dont think you let TO play lame duck one year.

TO's contract is much different than any others that Jerry has been "locked into"

 

[YosemiteSam]

I dont think you let TO play lame duck one year.

TO's contract is much different than any others that Jerry has been "locked into"

How was it different than say Emmitt Smith's contract?

 

[Bach]

There aren't many Darrell Green's and Jerry Rice's in the league. TO could be one, but it's a big risk to dump a lot of guaranteed into a 35+ WR.

I totally agree. Especially one that has a history of being so tempermental.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

How was it different than say Emmitt Smith's contract?

Be more specific

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Jerry agrees w/ Rosenhaus

 

[YosemiteSam]

Be more specific

LOL! Thats what I was asking you to do! You said TO's contract is different than *those other guys* Jerry was locked into. Well, Emmitt Smith was one of those other guys I mentioned.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

LOL! Thats what I was asking you to do! You said TO's contract is different than *those other guys* Jerry was locked into. Well, Emmitt Smith was one of those other guys I mentioned.

LOL I meant be more specific with what you were asking... money, years, age, contract inflation(adjustment) for 15 years later etc

My point is once you pay TO some upfront money... he can be let go after each year, before TC(and more $$$) I believe..... Emmitt was signed to a multi year deal.

 

[Coy]

Aside from the fact that you are 110% correct, who is that in your avatar??? :

My girl I wish, she´s that the girl from Mexico who did the exclusive interview with T.O. before the divisional game.

 

[YosemiteSam]

LOL I meant be more specific with what you were asking... money, years, age, contract inflation(adjustment) for 15 years later etc

My point is once you pay TO some upfront money... he can be let go after each year, before TC(and more $$$) I believe..... Emmitt was signed to a multi year deal.

If you sign TO to say a three year $30M deal with $10M in signing bonuses that $10 gets stretched out over the three years.

What if you sign him to a three year extention this year giving him four more years and $10M signing bonus on top of the $8M? he will make next year. Thats $38M over four years with $18M guaranteed. If you try and spread some of that signing bonus next year, it would increase his salary cap hit next season over $10M and probably still have $7-8M that MUST hit the cap even if his production drops as the way Emmitt's dropped (sub 4YPC) in his final two seasons. If he plays next year and it becomes appearent he isn't going to be worth $10M a year, in 2009 we will be forced to keep him on the team or eat around $8-10M in dead money by cutting him.

* These are just far flung figures, since nobody knows what the actual numbers and breakdowns would be.

Word is, cutting Roy Williams right now would cost us $6-7M against next years cap.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

My girl I wish, she´s that the girl from Mexico who did the exclusive interview with T.O. before the divisional game.

that *** is unreal

****ing spanish babes, what can I say? I love 'em

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

If you sign TO to say a three year $30M deal with $10M in signing bonuses that $10 gets stretched out over the three years.

What if you sign him to a three year extention this year giving him four more years and $10M signing bonus on top of the $8M? he will make next year. Thats $38M over four years with $18M guaranteed. If you try and spread some of that signing bonus next year, it would increase his salary cap hit next season over $10M and probably still have $7-8M that MUST hit the cap even if his production drops as the way Emmitt's dropped (sub 4YPC) in his final two seasons. If he plays next year and it becomes appearent he isn't going to be worth $10M a year, in 2009 we will be forced to keep him on the team or eat around $8-10M in dead money by cutting him.

* These are just far flung figures, since nobody knows what the actual numbers and breakdowns would be.

Word is, cutting Roy Williams right now would cost us $6-7M against next years cap.

Thanks for that.... but I think Jerry will figure something out.


I will buy you a Cowboys jersey if Jerry doesnt do "something" to extend TO past next year.... at some point whether it be before next season... during or at the end....

I think its reasonable that Jerry sign TO to a 2 year extension giving him a total of 5 years in Dallas.