Running back candidates

Bleu Star said:
Yall thought I was trippin when I said this would get interesting. YOU GON LEARN TODAY! :D

Nothing like a 45 minute tirade on twitter to get the ol blood circulating. :muttley:

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Adrian Peterson Comments on Vikings Contract, Treatment of NFL Players | Bleacher Report
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This is more confirmation of something I've been hearing which is that he does not really
want a trade, he wants his contract guaranteed.

He originally wanted a trade but figured out that he would have to take a big pay cut to make that happen.
 
xwalker said:
This is more confirmation of something I've been hearing which is that he does not really
want a trade, he wants his contract guaranteed.

He originally wanted a trade but figured out that he would have to take a big pay cut to make that happen.
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He's saying things like change of scenery. The contract stuff is so dumb that he can't possibly mean it. This is just his best way to possibly force a trade or release.
 
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EMMITTnROY said:
He's saying things like change of scenery. The contract stuff is so dumb that he can't possibly mean it. This is just his best way to possibly force a trade or release.
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Don't undersell the locker room aspect. Every player knows a guy or 5 that have been cut with non-guaranteed years left on their contract. Peterson is making a rambling but valid point, especially with the players.

This is the last thing MINN needs with a young QB, young roster and new stadium coming.

Even if they pay him this year, they are right back in the same boat next year.
 
I think there's a pay cut request going on behind the scenes that neither side wants to make public. I think the Vikings are trying to force Peterson into taking a pay cut by sitting on him until the season is about to start and then threatening him with a release at that point.

It's very similar to the pressure the Cowboys are currently applying to Brandon Carr, but obviously on a bigger scale.

The Vikings can say they want him back 'all day' long, but their actions - or lack thereof - do not back up those words. If they want him back for the future, where is the harm in giving him some guaranteed money, especially if it would defuse this public embarrassment?

Actions speak louder than words, and the Vikings' inactions clearly show their intentions.
 
stasheroo said:
I think there's a pay cut request going on behind the scenes that neither side wants to make public. I think the Vikings are trying to force Peterson into taking a pay cut by sitting on him until the season is about to start and then threatening him with a release at that point.

It's very similar to the pressure the Cowboys are currently applying to Brandon Carr, but obviously on a bigger scale.

The Vikings can say they want him back 'all day' long, but their actions - or lack thereof - do not back up those words. If they want him back for the future, where is the harm in giving him some guaranteed money, especially if it would defuse this public embarrassment?

Actions speak louder than words, and the Vikings' inactions clearly show their intentions.
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Sorry Stash; I don't see it.

Petey wants his release but is aiming for security first, whether it's with the Vikings or another team. It's about the money.

Zimmy wants to show Petey/the team/NFL he is in charge and he either plays or sits on the Vikings bench; to concede now would be counterproductive to his position as the head coach.

Logic, to me anyway, dictates that if Minny does decide to trade him, it would not be to the team that covets him the most unless it was for a high (#1) draft pick. He will not be released. Sorry.
 
xwalker said:
This is more confirmation of something I've been hearing which is that he does not really
want a trade, he wants his contract guaranteed.

He originally wanted a trade but figured out that he would have to take a big pay cut to make that happen.
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Sounds to me like he's trying to push the envelope to force a trade by making outrageous demands. <shrug>
 
Zimmy Lives said:
Sorry Stash; I don't see it.

Petey wants his release but is aiming for security first, whether it's with the Vikings or another team. It's about the money.
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How does that make any sense? Does he want to be released or does he want security? Which is it?

He's calling the Vikings' bluff. If they really want him like they say, why not show him that they due with a financial commitment? If it means smoothing things over and ending this public embarrassment, why not pay him some of the money that they claim to be willing to pay him now rather than later? What's stopping that?

Zimmy wants to show Petey/the team/NFL he is in charge and he either plays or sits on the Vikings bench; to concede now would be counterproductive to his position as the head coach.
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Zimmer obviously has zero power in all of this. "He's only a pawn in their game". He himself stated months ago that he would work with Peterson if he truly wanted out. And when it came down to it, Zimmer was told that it's not his call and then changed his tune to what the company wanted him to say. He's powerless, so his words are useless.

Logic, to me anyway, dictates that if Minny does decide to trade him, it would not be to the team that covets him the most unless it was for a high (#1) draft pick. He will not be released. Sorry.
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Does 'logic' also not dictate backing up what they say with what they do? If they mean what they say, why would they not agree to give him some measure of guarantee? If having him there long term is truly what both sides want.

I think the Vikings are showing what they truly do want. Actions, not words.
 
EMMITTnROY said:
He's saying things like change of scenery. The contract stuff is so dumb that he can't possibly mean it. This is just his best way to possibly force a trade or release.
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I partially agree. I believe he wants to come to Dallas. I think it's a safe assumption that he would want to restructure his co tract with his new team. The part that worries me is that he may expect to actually receive the 15 and 17 million the next 2 years. He obviously wants more in guarantees. I don't blame him for that at all. However I just don't know if Dallas and Peterson would be able to reach a contract agreement even if he were a free agent. I find it hard to believe he would go from making 12 million per year to 8.. Of course eventually he won't have a choice. The Vikings will cut him after this year and 31 year old backs do t get 12 million per year.
 
xwalker said:
This is more confirmation of something I've been hearing which is that he does not really
want a trade, he wants his contract guaranteed.

He originally wanted a trade but figured out that he would have to take a big pay cut to make that happen.
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How did he figure that out exactly? And reports were that Arizona was willing to pay him.

Also with no guaranteed money left on his deal.. Who can say he's taking a paycut?

He could get injured this year. Be cut and never see the other 32m on his last two years. Ergo getting a new deal with a new team for more than 13m guaranteed could be in his best interest. Start playing chess.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
How did he figure that out exactly? And reports were that Arizona was willing to pay him.

Also with no guaranteed money left on his deal.. Who can say he's taking a paycut?

He could get injured this year. Be cut and never see the other 32m on his last two years. Ergo getting a new deal with a new team for more than 13m guaranteed could be in his best interest. Start playing chess.
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Exactly. He will never 15m a year, but if he gets 15-20m guaranteed for the next 3 years he will give a team a new deal. Just like DWare. Dallas owed him 4yr/52m with 0m guaranteed. He said he would restructure with DAL but not take a pay cut.

Dallas wasn't going to pay him 13m a year, but DEN was willing to go 10m and gave him 20m of that guaranteed. He didn't go crazy like Peterson did, but he played hard ball until DAL released him.

Peterson won't report if he is traded to a team that isn't on his list. He won't restructure or re-do that deal and the new team will be looking at a holdout and malcontent, just like MINN. That is why no one traded for that contract before the Draft.

DAL has seen with Ratliff and Orton, it is better to get rid of the guys that really don't want to be here.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
How did he figure that out exactly? And reports were that Arizona was willing to pay him.

Also with no guaranteed money left on his deal.. Who can say he's taking a paycut?

He could get injured this year. Be cut and never see the other 32m on his last two years. Ergo getting a new deal with a new team for more than 13m guaranteed could be in his best interest. Start playing chess.
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The Vikings gave permission for his agent to talk to other teams. The numbers did not come back to Peterson's satisfaction. Teams don't want to pay big money AND have to give up a premium pick.
 
xwalker said:
The Vikings gave permission for his agent to talk to other teams. The numbers did not come back to Peterson's satisfaction. Teams don't want to pay big money AND have to give up a premium pick.
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Where did you read that he was given permission to speak with other teams? It runs contrary to everything I have read that stated they have no interest in trading Peterson.
 
I heard Lamar Millers dropped again today...casually.

Also, S Dennis seems to think if any bigger moves are made at RB, they'll be 4-5 weeks from not at the earliest.
Says they absolutely are loving how Randal and DMC are looking, but it's so early.
 
He just wants to get released and raising any hell he can to make that happen.

His thinking is "well if they arnt goint to trade or release me, I might as well get paid here". Its a good excuse to be honest. I think the whole "they didnt back me" excuse is wearing thin.

Jusy ****** trade or release him Minnesota. Cmon, this is so annoying.
 
I was just thinking...for all the AP haters and First Round Hoarders

When AP picks up that game clinching 3rd down run to seal up the Superbowl win....are they still gunna say " but we lost our first rounder!!!!!! Wahhh"

What are they gunna say then? "Okay yeah we just won the superbowl but now we dont have a guy with potential at DT for years to come!"
 
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