Running QBs

[DZSierra]

Not even Randall qualifies?

Newsflash. Randall Cunningham was called a running QB when he played. I was there LOL

 

[MyFairLady]

Roger Staubach. Dont even try and tell me he was only a pocket passer . Because I watched him live in the moment and he made a ton of plays with his legs .

That was a while ago and I may not remember it that well but I feel like he made his plays running because they played a lot of shot gun and he would extend the plays but the primary goal was to pass the ball. Some shot gun draws mixed in. Making plays with your legs on passing plays that break down does not make you a running QB. It makes you a mobile QB. Plenty of mobile QBs have had massive success as have already been mentioned. If you are in the huddle and the play call comes in and the intent of the paly is to have the QB run with the ball then you are a running QB. If the play breaks down and you make the other team pay for not staying home on defense then you are a mobile QB.

 

[eromeopolk]

Running QBs are all the rage in today’s NFL but with all of them its only a matter of time till they get hurt. Its bad enough when you are a pocket QB who has to run at times but when runs are part of the game plan and play calls its a long season to ask them to be around at year end when they are needed. Give me a QB with pocket awareness who can move around and occasionally run when necessary any day.

So you would have never drafted Roger Staubach and if you drafted him you would not have started him because he was going to get hurt running.

Jackson was hurt in the pocket, Murray blew his knee out, wearing those funny shoes, with no one touching him, and Hurt got his hurts running out the pocket. So it a toss up. But I would bet, most QBs that can run get hurt in the pocket because that is where they spend most of the time.

Pocket QBs get hurt too...see Tony Romo, Danny White, and most NFL QBs. Why? Because, you can find them most of the time in the pocket.

 

[817Gill]

And Hurts has much better passing numbers and has thrown more than Wilson those years despite missing multiple games to injury. At that qualification every QB is a running QB unless they’re a statue in the pocket.

What is the cutoff? If the Atlanta Falcons stopped calling designed runs for Vick and he only took off on pass plays that broke down and still got 100 yards, you would then consider him not a running QB? What kind of sense does that make.

Read option(unlike RPO) was a staple of Seattle’s playbook. He ran a lot, that’s undeniable. They ran run plays for him, that’s undeniable. His running directly translated into team success, undeniable. His running-to-passing stat ratio was ballooned when in comparison to the average NFL QB. If these things do not qualify him for being a running QB then very few people qualify.

Killin it great point

 

[DZSierra]

Roger Staubach. Dont even try and tell me he was only a pocket passer . Because I watched him live in the moment and he made a ton of plays with his legs .

He's actually in the top 25 of all time.

I thought the same thing as yourself watching him.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Running QBs are all the rage in today’s NFL but with all of them its only a matter of time till they get hurt. Its bad enough when you are a pocket QB who has to run at times but when runs are part of the game plan and play calls its a long season to ask them to be around at year end when they are needed. Give me a QB with pocket awareness who can move around and occasionally run when necessary any day.

There's a difference between running QB and mobile QB.....gimmmie a mobile QB. Running QB will not last long in this league. The rules have gone in favor of the mobile QBs. QBs looking to throw first and then running for yardage when necessary. Or moving around the pocket to hit a receiver getting open later on the play. A DB just cannot cover a receiver for very long.

 

[quickccc]

Name a running QB that won a Super Bowl.

Err .... Steve Young ..?.. Russell Wilson ?

 

[Blackrain]

He's actually in the top 25 of all time.

I thought the same thing as yourself watching him.

Yep I mean his nick name was Roger the Dodger . Guess these guys never watched him play at Navy either . Hey Fran Tarkington I thought was a running QB and he made it to a SB . But what ever our definition of a running QB dose not coincide with the experts .

 

[quickccc]

Colin kap….., Cam New…….., Mike vic…..I give up

Cam didn't win a SB ..

neither did Kap ...

Vic never even came close pre/post prison time.

But steve young did ...

would russell wilson qualify as a running QB too ?

 

[Blackrain]

Err .... Steve Young ..?

Agreed pretty much the same type of player as Roger . But the experts say he does not qualify if there are not specific running plays called for them .

 

[quickccc]

What makes any QB not a pocket passer first? Even Justin Fields has nearly 100 more passes than runs. It’s been decades since any regular QB ran more than they passed, if ever. Seattle had scripted run plays for Russell, he was a run threat QB. He had 1/4 as many run first downs as pass, that’s a huge amount. They would have had to have a terrible Oline if he only ran when necessary.

The more complex RPO stuff is a recent trend, so any metric deciding if a modern “running” QB equates to SB success has a very small sample size.

yeh .. is there anew version of the Wishbone offense in the NFL now ? ....lol

 

[quickccc]

There were very few QB runs by design in that Seahawks play book. He ran to extend plays or avoid pressure.
If Russell Wilson is a running QB then every QB in the league is a running QB.

what do you think Fields and Lamar are doing ??
when protection breaks down, don't they run to extend plays and avoid pressure don't they ?

Hurts would not be the impact player he has developed to be now if he had not better honed his passing skills to add his mobility and run skills .

 

[dogunwo]

Name a running QB that won a Super Bowl.

Steve Young

 

[Hardline]

Err .... Steve Young ..?.. Russell Wilson ?

Both have already been mentioned and rejected as running QBs by play design .

 

[dogunwo]

He was a pocket passer and mostly ran out of nessesity.

No, he wasn't.

 

[dogunwo]

That has already been mentioned and I addressed it.

You addressed it incorrectly

 

[Hardline]

You addressed it incorrectly

I was dead on correct. It's not even debatable . There is no argument against it.

 

[Blackrain]

Newsflash. Randall Cunningham was called a running QB when he played. I was there LOL

Amen to that I was there also , how can a guy have 5k rushing yrds in his career and 35 rush TDs and not be a running QB. Heck he had close to 1000 yrds rushing in 1990

 

[DZSierra]

Hurts would not be the impact player he has developed to be now if he had not better honed his passing skills to add his mobility and run skills .

BINGO!!

End of the day, a QB can not rely on only his running to win games.

Got to give Hurts credit (which this thread is most likely about LOL). He (Hurts) had a passing issue and apparently he worked on it and succeeded.

 

[Blackrain]

Both have already been mentioned and rejected as running QBs by play design .

Rejected by who ??? Who has set themselves up as judge and Jury over who is a running QB and who is not . Wilson and Young both have close to 5k career rushing yrds .