Running QBs

[CowboysExchange]

Name a running QB that won a Super Bowl.

Steve Young

 

[Hardline]

Steve Young

That has already been mentioned and I addressed it.

 

[RonnieT24]

Name a running QB that won a Super Bowl.

Easy.. Russell Wilson..

Next question..

 

[RonnieT24]

Not running QBs. Don't redefine the term.

Wilson led his team in rushing a couple of times if I'm not mistaken.. If that aint a running QB I'd like to know what is..

 

[RonnieT24]

Can’t recall but didn’t Dougie Williams run a ton when TB won it?

Doug Williams won his title with the Commanders in 1987.. He had two bad knees by then and only ran in dire emergency. And he had been retired for 15 years before the Bucs won in 2002.

 

[RonnieT24]

Shelf.life of running QBs is shorter.

The only one who ever made it to the superbowl was Kapernick. Steve Young was a prolific passer who.could run....

Young will tell you himself that he wasn't much of a passer when he came into the league. It took him several years under Bill Walsh to learn to throw the ball at an NFL level. But he was an amazing athlete who could run like the wind..

 

[DFWJC]

Running QBs are all the rage in today’s NFL but with all of them its only a matter of time till they get hurt. Its bad enough when you are a pocket QB who has to run at times but when runs are part of the game plan and play calls its a long season to ask them to be around at year end when they are needed. Give me a QB with pocket awareness who can move around and occasionally run when necessary any day.

Im not so sure running QBs are the rage.

If you mean mobile QBs, then yes.
Allen, Mahomes, even Lawrence and others….those types are preferred

But with 32 starters, I can think of maybe 3 or 4 that are known more for running than throwing.

 

[DFWJC]

Doug Williams won his title with the Commanders in 1987.. He had two bad knees by then and only ran in dire emergency. And he had been retired for 15 years before the Bucs won in 2002.

Yep
Doug Williams was pretty much a pass only dude when he won it.
And he lit it up in that SB

 

[DFWJC]

I want to say Eli Manning. From 2005 to 2018 he missed only 1 game. I am not sure why he missed that game.

Stafford went about 10 years or so without missing game, but he did get banged up some

Brady had the jnee early, then went about 15 years pretty clean

 

[DFWJC]

Moving the goalpost but I give you 2 .......Mahomes and Wilson

No way Mahomes is a “running QB”…come on.
Hes mobil, yes….but not a running QB
Im not even sure Wilson was, but maybe enough tocount…

 

[jrumann59]

Most running QBs have holes in their passing ability, and when they are younger by all means use your legs to do things unexpected but once you start to get closer to 30 you better be able to pass well. All the hits in your 20's especially leg injuries add up, when your legs are gone and you cannot stand in the "pocket" and deliver a good ball 70% of the time you will be out of the league. Cunningham, Culpepper, RG3, Jackson is getting there as a runner that does not like to pass, Murray, there are a few exceptions like Young and few others some from way back.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Says who.......all sorts of rules in place to help QBs avoid hits, including sliding.

And long *before* those rules were in place, there were effective running QBs.
With the extra protection in the rules, shouldn't they be even safer now?

Somebody here keeps posting a "top QB" list. Last time I looked, seemed to be a lot of running QBs in the top ten, if it wasn't *exclusively* a list of running QBs.

 

[buybuydandavis]

No way Mahomes is a “running QB”…come on.
Hes mobil, yes….but not a running QB
Im not even sure Wilson was, but maybe enough tocount…

Mahomes has been 300+ the last 3 seasons. That's where Dak was his first 3 seasons. Last 3 Dak is more like ~140 yards/season.

I think 300+ qualifies.

This Article has Mahomes as the 6th best running QB in the league.
https://www.ranker.com/list/best-rushing-quarterbacks-2022/pedro-cerrano

 

[buybuydandavis]

I like mobile not running QBs. They can run, they can climb the pocket, they can make subtle shifts to make a defender miss, they throw the ball away smartly and they occasionally run with the understanding of the first down marker and slide feet first all the time.

Because of their mobility they stress the defence and force them to defend the entire field. Add in being the smartest player on the field and you have a perennial elite QB.

Problem with running QBs are they are elite when their wheels are still elite. When they slow down, then you get issues if they are not good with the passing game. They drop off the "elite" to "less than pedestrian" pretty fast. e.g. Russel Wilson.

Wilson lasted as elite a long time. Few players last that long.

Running shortens a QB's career, but improves it while he can run. Giving up a true edge to your game is not something most players can afford to do.

Me, I'd draft them, run them, and keep them coming.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Im not so sure running QBs are the rage.

If you mean mobile QBs, then yes.
Allen, Mahomes, even Lawrence and others….those types are preferred

But with 32 starters, I can think of maybe 3 or 4 that are known more for running than throwing.

Agree 100% but lets answer OP's question, are so-called running QBs more prone to injuries than your convention pocket QB? As stated earlier, I have not seen any data/facts/proof to support such his claim. As mentioned, from what I've seen they rarely take a solid hit ( sliding or running out of bounds before contact).

 

[CowboysExchange]

That has already been mentioned and I addressed it.

Taysom Hill would have one w N.O. but they got BAMBOOZLED by the Refs in the NFC Championship. Ha ha ha

Then Drew Brees Peed his pants lol

He took the eagles lunch money on Sunday ha ha ha

 

[Hawkeye0202]

OP has gotten me curious......so with a little research, here's an excellent article actually supporting his post. Although I'm still not sure/convinced all their injuries are linked to running vs classic pocket, the articles make a few interesting points. My thing is most, if not all are injuries waiting to happen and it doesn't matter if it's your classic dropback, running or mobile QB coz it's the nature of the position. For example, the article reference Hurts and Kyler Murray but Hurts injury was from a sack and Murray's no contact. The same injuries could have happened to any mobile or pocket QB as well.



https://www.deseret.com/2022/1/11/2...t-it-comes-at-a-price-cam-newton-kyler-murray

Running QBs are all the rage in the NFL, but it comes with a price
There was a time when coaches winced when they saw their quarterback run with the ball in the open field, but today it is almost commonplace
By Doug Robinson
Jan 11, 2022, 3:42pm EST

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I want to say Eli Manning. From 2005 to 2018 he missed only 1 game. I am not sure why he missed that game.

If I remember correctly it was because the HC benched him a game but the backup was so terrible Eli started the next game.

 

[DZSierra]

Running QBs are all the rage in today’s NFL but with all of them its only a matter of time till they get hurt. Its bad enough when you are a pocket QB who has to run at times but when runs are part of the game plan and play calls its a long season to ask them to be around at year end when they are needed. Give me a QB with pocket awareness who can move around and occasionally run when necessary any day.

I'm taking it you've never heard of Randal Cunningham, who played 161 games? Steve McNaire (who ironically played in the same amount of games)?

Also assuming you've actually never looked to see who some of the highest rushing QB's are over time?

End of the day, football is a pretty violent sport, and anyone in ANY position runs the chance of being injured.

That said, the highest rushing QB lasted played 143 games.

No doubt you're bringing this subject up because of Hurts. As someone else mentioned, even a QB who is a pocket passer and doesn't run is still going to get his clock rung more than a couple of times if he plays regularly.

I do however believe one way to reduce injuries throughout the league (no matter what position you play) is to have everyone play on grass instead of astroturf.

 

[terra]

Lamar Jackson, Fields, Hurts, probably all would qualify as running QBs.
Might be a couple others that are borderline.

So at most that means 5 of 32

not exactly a rage I would say

and historically those that lasted very long were very much the exception

and once again there have been NO running QBs that have ever been the winning QB in the SB.

Those talking about Steve Young - take a look at the stats of the year he was the winning QB in the SB. He was mobile but NOT a running QB.