Simple question: Do you believe Michael Irvin's story?

[snapper]

And me also.

What happened to those two grams, btw?

Was Mike's wife just allowed to take them home?

The Playmaker smoked the two ounces while they were waiting for the paddy wagon.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And me also.

But it would be a lot easier to do if you hadn't maintained your brother found two grams in Mike's car.

What happened to those two grams, btw?

Was Mike's wife just allowed to take them home?

Are we sure it was Mike's wife? I mean, it's an honest question.


:laugh2:

 

[Draegerman]

And me also.

But it would be a lot easier to do if you hadn't maintained your brother found two grams in Mike's car.

What happened to those two grams, btw?

Was Mike's wife just allowed to take them home?

It's locked up in the evidence room. Everything that he had in the vehicle was confiscated and listed as "Drug Paraphernalia".

 

[Kilyin]

Seems the original comment by Dreagerman about Texas Law regarding up to 4 ounces as a misdemeanor was spot on..

§ 481.121. OFFENSE: POSSESSION OF
MARIHUANA. (a) Except as authorized by this chapter, a person
commits an offense if the person knowingly or intentionally
possesses a usable quantity of marihuana.
(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is:
(1) a Class B misdemeanor if the amount of marihuana
possessed is two ounces or less;
(2) a Class A misdemeanor if the amount of marihuana
possessed is four ounces or less but more than two ounces;
(3) a state jail felony if the amount of marihuana
possessed is five pounds or less but more than four ounces;
(4) a felony of the third degree if the amount of
marihuana possessed is 50 pounds or less but more than 5 pounds;
(5) a felony of the second degree if the amount of
marihuana possessed is 2,000 pounds or less but more than 50 pounds;
and
(6) punishable by imprisonment in the institutional
division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for life or for
a term of not more than 99 years or less than 5 years, and a fine not
to exceed $50,000, if the amount of marihuana possessed is more than
2,000 pounds.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

It's locked up in the evidence room. Everything that he had in the vehicle was confiscated and listed as "Drug Paraphernalia".

Wow, I hope Mike Florio's not reading this board.
(PoFootballTalk)

 

[BigDFan5]

NORMAL's information is incorrect. There is no such thing as a 'civil' citation in Texas criminal law. It is a class C offense and Texas Penal Code Section 14.01 provides that "an officer may arrest an offender without a warrant for any offense committed in his presence or within his view."

Section 481.125 of the Texas Health and Safety Code classifies possession of drug paraphernalia as a Class C offense punishable by a fine up to $500; unless it is the second offense in which case it becomes a Class A offense punishable by up to one year in jail and a $4000 fine.

You can believe an internet drug site that promotes the legalization of marihuana, (a political view) or you can believe a Texas Prosecutor (a legal view.)
Just a suggestion, don't bet the house on the internet site.

Do a google search for "Plano Texas Drug paraphenelia citation" You will see all kinds of tickets issued

 

[BigDFan5]

Seems the original comment by Dreagerman about Texas Law regarding up to 4 ounces as a misdemeanor was spot on..

§ 481.121. OFFENSE: POSSESSION OF
MARIHUANA. (a) Except as authorized by this chapter, a person
commits an offense if the person knowingly or intentionally
possesses a usable quantity of marihuana.
(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is:
(1) a Class B misdemeanor if the amount of marihuana
possessed is two ounces or less;
(2) a Class A misdemeanor if the amount of marihuana
possessed is four ounces or less but more than two ounces;
(3) a state jail felony if the amount of marihuana
possessed is five pounds or less but more than four ounces;
(4) a felony of the third degree if the amount of
marihuana possessed is 50 pounds or less but more than 5 pounds;
(5) a felony of the second degree if the amount of
marihuana possessed is 2,000 pounds or less but more than 50 pounds;
and
(6) punishable by imprisonment in the institutional
division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for life or for
a term of not more than 99 years or less than 5 years, and a fine not
to exceed $50,000, if the amount of marihuana possessed is more than
2,000 pounds.

I believe his original statement was 4 OZs or less was classified as "Drug paraphenalia" Not possession he has since corrected himself on his mistake

 

[trickblue]

Father, I assume the only way you could know that was via the confessional.

The bishop told me!

 

[LaTunaNostra]

The bishop told me!

 

[Draegerman]

Wow, I hope Mike Florio's not reading this board.
(PoFootballTalk)

Not sure what the big deal is. It's listed on the citation as "marijuana residue". I guess it's open to interpretation but his Chief reviewed the tape and said that everything was handled correctly.

Regarding the "two ounces", I came back later on the other thread and said that it was less than that but what do you say that we don't open up that ol' can of worms again and just leave it at that?

 

[The30YardSlant]

As a fellow christian, I will give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise

However, I will NEVER support him again and will be sorely dissapointed if I'm wrong

 

[iceberg]

Thanks and, interesting.

It's all hypothetical as no drugs were found, (according to the arrest sheet linked to in this thread) just 'residue'....so you're saying that if as much as two grams were found, it would depend upon the amount of what? seeds? that would determine if it were usable?

I am sure I can find this answer at High Times, but humour me please. :laugh2:

Could a joint get rolled from two grams of weed?

look, your original stance was HE (draeg) LIED. it's now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt HE DID NOT LIE. why can you not simply realize that and drop it? you now have to find some technicality-rock to hide behind because you for some reason unknown to anyone in mankind can admit you were wrong and he was telling the truth.

you can break it down all you want after that but you know, i know, draeg knows, irvin, hos, brainpaint, trickblue, jterrell, draegs brother, and about 2000 other people know HE DID NOT LIE.

and they know you won't admit that, only run away to a bad excuse and try to cloud up the issue just so you won't have to admit you were wrong and apologize.

sad.

 

[Draegerman]

I believe his original statement was 4 OZs or less was classified as "Drug paraphenalia" Not possession he has since corrected himself on his mistake

I did and later recanted after I re-read the statute and posted the correction. But that was in a seperate post regarding the "4 ounces = paraphernalia" when another poster asked how much mj was considered paraphernalia.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Not sure what the big deal is. It's listed on the citation as "marijuana residue". I guess it's open to interpretation but his Chief reviewed the tape and said that everything was handled correctly.

Regarding the "two ounces", I came back later on the other thread and said that it was less than that but what do you say that we don't open up that ol' can of worms again and just leave it at that?

I caught the part where you downgraded it to two ounces, but missed the part that downgraded it to 'residue'.

'Residue' is on the citation. So shall it stand.

 

[iceberg]

I caught the part where you downgraded it to two ounces, but missed the part that downgraded it to 'residue'.

'Residue' is on the citation. So shall it stand.

and he did not lie, did he?

so shall IT stand.

 

[Draegerman]

Are we sure it was Mike's wife? I mean, it's an honest question.


:laugh2:

Yes, it's her without a doubt.

 

[Kilyin]

That Dr. Phil pic is kinda creepy.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Im thinking it was some one else other than his wive, ther are a few here who know who I am thinking but I have no link to support it.

 

[snapper]

Yes, it's her without a doubt.

The 5:30 news is on in about fifteen minutes. I wonder if the local Dallas stations have the tape ready to roll?

 

[Draegerman]

and he did not lie, did he?

so shall IT stand.

Hell, I'd settle just for her admitting that he's my brother.