Situational awareness

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did you ever see on you tube the video of the actual small group creating that signature, horse whip, whistle and such...its very cool...check it out if you haven't !
Thank you......I will. didn't know that existed.
 

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I just watched the replay several times and Dak got hosed on the call...his knee hit right at the first down marker but JGarrett didn't do him any favors.......he was standing 2 yards short at the 30 pointing to go down.......at least stand at the yard to get......plus Smith and Hendricks were closing fast and about to drill him

Overall great awareness and execution kid.......don't change a thing
 

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Dak needs to improve this, but he seems very own to review and learn from his mistakes.

I hate to turn every thread into a Romo vs. Dak debate, but for comparison Romo's highest season fumble total is 5, and 22 for his entire career. Dak is exceptional at avoiding picks. And we all have to remember he's in good first year.
And those might be only fumbles lost. I wonder?? Cause in 2008 it seemed like the ball was on the ground at least once a game.
 

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Dak needs to run through the sticks and convert that third down, it ends the game....staying in bounds is irrelevant when you don't convert...I don't remember seeing s defender ready to lay him out...regardless...he needs to get past the sticks...must say I was quite disappointed in that play...

I think Dak felt he had it but then again with a LB barreling down on him he was smart enough to get down and at least stay in bounds. Dak knows the situations he has been facing
 

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I just watched the replay several times and Dak got hosed on the call...his knee hit right at the first down marker but JGarrett didn't do him any favors.......he was standing 2 yards short at the 30 pointing to go down.......at least stand at the yard to get......plus Smith and Hendricks were closing fast and about to drill him

Overall great awareness and execution kid.......don't change a thing

His knee did but the ball was behind him, it is not where the knee hits but where the ball is. It was the correct call by the refs. Matter of fact it was the Vikes who challenged the mark which was marked as a 1st down after review the ball was moved back a yard so your hit on Garrett is without merit. Vike challenged and won the challenge so what the hell was Garrett to do? LOL sorry going after Garrett on this is pretty lame and really shows nothing more than a cheap shot by you on him
 

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Sheesh.

TO me, there was a lot in the entire game that I am just going to chalk off to their third game in what...12 days! The miscue on the snap was really on Frederick, a microcosm of an exhausting, hard fought tough stretch that ended with on the road becoming only the second team to come away from that cool stadium with a win.

Dak showed GREAT situational awareness.
 

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His knee did but the ball was behind him, it is not where the knee hits but where the ball is. It was the correct call by the refs. Matter of fact it was the Vikes who challenged the mark which was marked as a 1st down after review the ball was moved back a yard so your hit on Garrett is without merit. Vike challenged and won the challenge so what the hell was Garrett to do? LOL sorry going after Garrett on this is pretty lame and really shows nothing more than a cheap shot by you on him
I am saying Garrett was physically standing at the 30 waving for Dak to go down.......he was right next to him........I am saying Garrett should have been standing at the 33 yard line and pointing....I did a stop motion on my TV but didn't get a good screen grab

Next time you start lobbing accusations try to read the post at least
 

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The run and slide is ok. I think a few more steps and he might have been crushed

I think one more step he would have been destroyed! He had three defenders closing in on him. I think that first scramble has everyone spoiled. That was a very dangerous run and dive. He is a QB not a RB.
 

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Your scenario
1-10 254 Zeke gets nothing TO #1 MINN
2-10 250 Dak gets 10yds OB
1-10 245 Zeke gets nothing TO #2 MINN
2-10 240 Zeke gets 2 yds TO #3 MINN
3-8 235 Zeke gets 2 yds
4-6 200 Punt
MINN Ball
1-10 150 (this is almost exaclty what happened- off by 2 short plays....MINN got the ball with 209 left)

My scenario
1-10 254 Zeke gets nothing TO #1 MINN
2-10 250 Dak gets 9yds TO #2 MINN
3-1 225 Zeke gets 2 yds TO #3 MINN
1-10 220 Zeke gets nothing
2-10 200 Zeke gets 2 yds
3-8 115 Zeke gets 2yds
4-6 30 Punt
MINN Ball
1-10 20secs left

It is worth going for the 1st in bounds every time....your way saved 19 seconds

thank you for this.. I'm not sure how people can argue that Dak staying in bounds was not the right play.

It was one of the most heads up things you could do in that situation. And especially after the Zeke play in pittsburgh, it showed that someone coached up this team on situational awareness.

Fumbling a 3rd and 1 snap should be the "bad play".
 

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the rule is vague as to the spot........it says the ball is dead but it doesn't mention where to mark the spot

RULE 7 Ball in Play, Dead Ball, Scrimmage
Section 2 Dead Ball
Article 1: Dead Ball Declared.
An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:
(d) when a runner declares himself down by sliding feet first on the ground. The ball is dead the instant
the runner touches the ground with anything other than his hands or his feet; or
Note: Defenders are required to treat a sliding runner as they would a runner who is down by contact.

Point of emphasis
Quarterback Slide

Once a runner begins a feet-first slide before contact is imminent, defenders cannot make any forcible contact and must treat a sliding runner as they would any runner who is down by contact. Once a runner begins a slide and becomes protected, he can no longer advance the football, regardless of contact by an opponent. Runners who slide sideways or headfirst will not have special protection.

Runners (especially quarterbacks) who want the protection afforded sliding players must make every effort to slide feet-first before contact is imminent. If a runner starts his slide when contact is imminent, a defender is not prohibited from making forcible contact, as long as it is below the head/neck area.
 

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thank you for this.. I'm not sure how people can argue that Dak staying in bounds was not the right play.

It was one of the most heads up things you could do in that situation. And especially after the Zeke play in pittsburgh, it showed that someone coached up this team on situational awareness.

Fumbling a 3rd and 1 snap should be the "bad play".
Exactly......getting a first down was not the goal......the goal was running off as much time as possible and making them use their TOs

Dak running OB after getting the first was also a free TO....that means it was worthless unless they get another first down

Dak getting a first down in bounds was the goal....he missed by a knee but he made them use a TO(for some reason they also let 20 seconds run off the clock before challenging)......getting the first down on 3rd and one practically seals the victory..........not getting it on 3rd at least made them use another TO and puts them in the same scenario as above...punting with 2 minutes left
 

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Unstandable but are all pro center needs to hike the ball to Dak's hands and not off of his butt.
 

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don't think...run past the sticks...im not trying to be "that guy"...he will learn, roger wouldn't slide in that situation...
It was second down, live to play another down. If it were 3rd down I'd agree.
 

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Didn't have a problem with the slide at that time.....it was the 3rd down and 1 fumble that hurt them. 9 times out of 10, you give it to Zeke and he will get you the first down. Dallas would have run out the clock at that time. Instead we almost blew it.
 

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And those might be only fumbles lost. I wonder?? Cause in 2008 it seemed like the ball was on the ground at least once a game.
Yes. sorry for not clarifying. Romo had some fumble issues and was good with interceptions. I was making a comparison to show they are fairly similar, but I really believe Dak will watch and learn and either throw it away or tuck and take the sake. He's almost TOO poised for a rookie.
 

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It was second down, live to play another down. If it were 3rd down I'd agree.
exactly.......like he did in the first half on 3rd down with the head first dive

he was about to get blown-up by Hendricks on that play and knocked out of bounds
 

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He has 7 seconds...when he has 7 seconds. This criticism doesn't make sense the same as it didn't make sense with Romo.

There are a ton of huge plays that never get made, third down conversions that never happen if these two warriors prematurely throw the ball away.

Go back and watch the many huge plays that happen late in the play with both of them...

It was an exaggeration when I said 7 seconds, but that is the only knock I have on Dak and he has played amazing this year. He isn't perfect, but he will get better at his internal timing.
 

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I am saying Garrett was physically standing at the 30 waving for Dak to go down.......he was right next to him........I am saying Garrett should have been standing at the 33 yard line and pointing....I did a stop motion on my TV but didn't get a good screen grab

Next time you start lobbing accusations try to read the post at least

Accusation try not knowing what the hell you are talking about. There is a LB coming into the play even Collingsworth mentions the same thing, Dak did what he needed to do. Blaming Garrett is beyond lame but then his critics need to grasp at anything they can. He has this team playing at a franchise record setting pace and all you people do is whine about something you have no clue about. It is beyond pathetic to see so called fans ripping on Garrett his team is 11-1 what have you done? By the way I do read the post I just fine it humiliating that so many claim to be Cowboy fans yet whine about every single thing as if you could do a better job. Laughable!!!
 

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Accusation try not knowing what the hell you are talking about. There is a LB coming into the play even Collingsworth mentions the same thing, Dak did what he needed to do. Blaming Garrett is beyond lame but then his critics need to grasp at anything they can. He has this team playing at a franchise record setting pace and all you people do is whine about something you have no clue about. It is beyond pathetic to see so called fans ripping on Garrett his team is 11-1 what have you done? By the way I do read the post I just fine it humiliating that so many claim to be Cowboy fans yet whine about every single thing as if you could do a better job. Laughable!!!


I was with you until the stupidity of "what have you done" comment.

By that insane logic, one cannot criticize any player, because, well, what have any of us done? No one here has played professional football at this level.

 
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