Skins land Fauria

[Cowboy4ever]

Dang dude...relax. I'm always real about football. I'm sure I hate the cowboys as much as you hate the skins...but that's what makes a good rivalry.

To me the best thing that happened to the rivalry this past year was us sweeping you guys and the Eagles. It has been so long and started to seriously rekindle the rivalry...which is hands down the best rivalry in the NFL. The Commanders doing well makes for football which is a LOT more entertaining because now the NFC East is going to be the toughest division in the NFC.

Got to let ya win every now and then or you guys would quit playing us lol. seriously,, whats so Ironic about us bashing the skins and the skins bashing us.. we are almost mirrored teams. Both have aging QB's that had great seasons last year. Both Our Oline need improvement. We both have a quailty RB, TE and Defense. I truely believe, even after todays signings, that our WRs, if we add TO is better than the skins and Our CB are much better.
But I do think that our front offices take widely different approaches to the game and it shows in FA. Which way is best?? 5-3 in the championships,, so u tell me.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

That's easy. We are rivals.

You are saying you got great players, but their stats prove otherwise. Lloyd had a decent season, but the other two did not.

I dont believe that any of the posters here have called our recievers great. We relize that these recievers are from #1 material. But that isn't what we needed. We needed role players, which we got with a very strong #2 and #3 reciver. We arn't arguing that the players are the best thing to ever hit this earth, just saying that they should fit in, and help our team out a lot in the type of sysytem we are going to run.

and any dallas who tries to deny this, it truly a little dilusional.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Let's talk WR comparisons this time next week, if the Eagles don't pull off a last second trade of a certain WR.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I dont believe that any of the posters here have called our recievers great. We relize that these recievers are from #1 material. But that isn't what we needed. We needed role players, which we got with a very strong #2 and #3 reciver. We arn't arguing that the players are the best thing to ever hit this earth, just saying that they should fit in, and help our team out a lot in the type of sysytem we are going to run.

and any dallas who tries to deny this, it truly a little dilusional.

I understand your point and I agree with you. If Gibbs and Saunders can mesh, they have a chance with these guys of upgrading their offense, (which shouldn't be too hard to accomplish ).

My responses are directed to some of our fans losing it because the Skins signed some role type players.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Let's talk WR comparisons this time next week, if the Eagles don't pull off a last second trade of a certain WR.

Seriously, do you really think that your wide recievers would be that much better than us with TO on your team?

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I dont believe that any of the posters here have called our recievers great. We relize that these recievers are from #1 material. But that isn't what we needed. We needed role players, which we got with a very strong #2 and #3 reciver. We arn't arguing that the players are the best thing to ever hit this earth, just saying that they should fit in, and help our team out a lot in the type of sysytem we are going to run.

and any dallas who tries to deny this, it truly a little dilusional.

But you paid,, Starting #1 price for Randell El. Thats the whole point. No question he helps a week WR core of the skins last year.. hell I would have been an upgrade over patten.. But it was foolish to sign him for that much money. He is not worth it. Bentley would have been a great pick up for us.. but I dont think he is worth that amount of money, over what we have already.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Seriously, do you really think that your wide recievers would be that much better than us with TO on your team?

I think they are without the TO signing. Seriously. We have a guy that run past any DB in glenn, We have a tough SOB over the middle move the chains guy in key and an all pro TE. Throw in Patrick C. who is shows as much promise as anyone you signed today.. and yes,, we are still better than the WR core you guys bought today.. if we get TO.. its no contest.

 

[Hostile]

Seriously, do you really think that your wide recievers would be that much better than us with TO on your team?

I hate TO, but let's be honest, hell yes.

Shall we compare stats?

My gosh man, take off the rose colored glasses.

 

[seoulman]

To say how well we're doing in FA is pointless. No one is going to know until we suit up and get onto the field. Until then it's speculation and frankly a silly debate to begin with.

To address SacredStar regarding how our approach to FA doesn't work...you might want to check Dallas' trophy case as well. Since the era of the salary cap, Dallas has won one SB (the year after it was implemented)...which is of course one more than the Skins have, but certainly no dynasty. Also, it has been 11 years since that SB which mean that NEITHER team has won the big one in over a decade. Furthermore, since Snyder took over the franchise Dallas has only been barely more successful than the Skins. I just don't think you've got a whole lot to brag about regarding how your franchise has been run the last few years.

 

[clayman]

I just hope Terry Glenn can stay healthy for another entire season....thats the worrying factor for me in regards to our WRs.

 

[Hostile]

I dont believe that any of the posters here have called our recievers great. We relize that these recievers are from #1 material. But that isn't what we needed. We needed role players, which we got with a very strong #2 and #3 reciver. We arn't arguing that the players are the best thing to ever hit this earth, just saying that they should fit in, and help our team out a lot in the type of sysytem we are going to run.

and any dallas who tries to deny this, it truly a little dilusional.

I've seen the word great more than once. So, you'd be wrong.

 

[Bach]

Lloyd is a bargain for a 3rd and a 4th.

Randle El is a great player (what does his contract have to do with his on the field ability)

Fauria is a good blocker and has sure hands, i.e. both upgrades over Robert Royal.

Congrats on signing your guard, btw.

I wouldn't give up a 3rd and 4th round pick for Lloyd. That's like giving away. let's see, Jason Witten and Bradie James for an average WR who was starting to become a locker room cancer in SF. No thanks, I'll stick with the draft.

Randle Eel is a good #3 WR, I'd hardly call him a great player.

"What does his contract have to do with his on the field ability"
Did you just ask that? In the real world, there is usually a correlation between the two. I guess in Danny's world of throwing around money he has no problem giving #1 WR $$$ to a #3 WR. To each his own I guess.

Fauria may be an upgrade over Royal. Then again, I don't think it'd take much. But he is 34, I'm sure he'll enjoy his season or two in DC.


And thanks for the congrats on our OG. I think he'll help upgrade that position for us. And, I doubt we're finished, it's only been two days.

 

[Bach]

I dont believe that any of the posters here have called our recievers great. We relize that these recievers are from #1 material. But that isn't what we needed. We needed role players, which we got with a very strong #2 and #3 reciver.

Originally Posted by SkinsFan26
Lloyd is a bargain for a 3rd and a 4th.

Randle El is a great player

Nice try skinsngibbs.


Next.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

I think they are without the TO signing. Seriously. We have a guy that run past any DB in glenn, We have a tough SOB over the middle move the chains guy in key and an all pro TE. Throw in Patrick C. who is shows as much promise as anyone you signed today.. and yes,, we are still better than the WR core you guys bought today.. if we get TO.. its no contest.

you have to be out of your mind.

Moss > Glenn 1500 yards to 1200 yards... 9 TD's to 7 TD's
Lloyd< Keyshawn just slightly 733 yards to 839...5 td's to 6 td's
Randle El > Crayton 558 yards to 331... 1 TD to 2 TD's
Cooley = Witten 774 yards to 757... 6 td's to 7 td's

??? theres your stats for ya

 

[Hostile]

To say how well we're doing in FA is pointless. No one is going to know until we suit up and get onto the field. Until then it's speculation and frankly a silly debate to begin with.

To address SacredStar regarding how our approach to FA doesn't work...you might want to check Dallas' trophy case as well. Since the era of the salary cap, Dallas has won one SB (the year after it was implemented)...which is of course one more than the Skins have, but certainly no dynasty. Also, it has been 11 years since that SB which mean that NEITHER team has won the big one in over a decade. Furthermore, since Snyder took over the franchise Dallas has only been barely more successful than the Skins. I just don't think you've got a whole lot to brag about regarding how your franchise has been run the last few years.

No debate is silly until the losing side has to resort to insults to try and look big.

By all means check my post record if you doubt this next claim. I am not a Cowboys Koolaid drinker. You'll find that I openly criticize what Parcells and Jerry Jones are doing at times.

When I see the same honesty from you Skins fans I will be openly shocked. Your entire argument about anything is recent History. Unless of course we bring up recent History. Then it is irrelevant.

Quite frankly it is sad. I've been having these discussions on this board and others for 4 years now. I've seen this same tired mantra so many times I can predict the next post. Time after time I send it to the cheap seats where it belongs.

I'll be glad to play out the entire mock opera for you if you're so inclined to be entertained. I've heard it all. Everything from how Brandon Noble was going to be a "blocker magnet" to today's comedy that Brandon Noble and Antwaan Randle El are "great WRs." I like one of the 2, but "great?" Come on, let's not kid ourselves.

Did you improve your WR corps? Of course. I don't think one single solitary Cowboys fan has claimed you regressed. Is your team better? On paper, maybe. They still have to find a way to click.

Paper champions. Every year, the Skins are paper champions. Forgive me for not being impressed. I think Danny's methods are foolish and you won't win until he realizes he's doing it the wrong way. When I see some acknowledgement of that I'm going to be amazed. All I ever hear is "on paper we're as talented as any team out there."

Color me unimpressed.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

And thanks for the congrats on our OG. I think he'll help upgrade that position for us.

And that my friend, isant that hard either, if i may say so myself

 

[Cowboy4ever]

you have to be out of your mind.

Moss > Glenn 1500 yards to 1200 yards... 9 TD's to 7 TD's
Lloyd< Keyshawn just slightly 733 yards to 839...5 td's to 6 td's
Randle El > Crayton 558 yards to 331... 1 TD to 2 TD's
Cooley = Witten 774 yards to 757... 6 td's to 7 td's

??? theres your stats for ya

Moss only WR worth a crap last year..
Key> LLoyd by alot last year.. count chain moving first downs and going over the middle like a man.. not ducking the ball.

Crayton don't make 31 MILLION and had a broken leg for most of the year.

Cooley is pretty decent.. I will give ya that one.

 

[BigDFan5]

you have to be out of your mind.

Moss > Glenn 1500 yards to 1200 yards... 9 TD's to 7 TD's
Lloyd< Keyshawn just slightly 733 yards to 839...5 td's to 6 td's
Randle El > Crayton 558 yards to 331... 1 TD to 2 TD's
Cooley = Witten 774 yards to 757... 6 td's to 7 td's

??? theres your stats for ya

you did not just put Cooley = Witten?? LOL Witten 2 time pro bowler had a great season more than once. Cooley was the only option other than Moss, his numbers drop next season

Now I want you to note on Randle El he had 15 starts and Crayton had ZERO and missed 5 games to injury So its El 15 starts 558 and 1 to Crayton 0 starts 11 games 331 and 2

El 10 mill bonus Crayton League minimum hmmmm

 

[silverbear]

Its official. I see him being more of a blocking TE but a good pickup for the skins. It really surprises me how aggressive and precise they are.

Fauria has always been more of a blocker than a receiver... that's just what the Skins were looking for, though...

My quick thoughts on this acquisition:

1) I'm gonna be interested to see how much they paid him, how it compares to the 3 mil a year that Robert Royal got in his new deal...

2) I'm also gonna be interested to see how long a deal they give to a 35 year old...

3) At the very least, though, ya gotta admit the guy has some playoff experience...

If the price tag was reasonable, this was a decent move for the short term...

 

[Hostile]

you have to be out of your mind.

Moss > Glenn 1500 yards to 1200 yards... 9 TD's to 7 TD's
Lloyd< Keyshawn just slightly 733 yards to 839...5 td's to 6 td's
Randle El > Crayton 558 yards to 331... 1 TD to 2 TD's
Cooley = Witten 774 yards to 757... 6 td's to 7 td's

??? theres your stats for ya

Nice try sparky, but how about being honest.

You asked if adding TO made us better than you. Take TO's per game stats and compare it to Moss' per game stats. Or take TO's last full season against Moss' last year. I hate the guy, but he's head and shoulders better than your so far 1 year wonder.

Compare Glenn to Lloyd. How does it stack up now?

Compare Key to Randle El. How does it stack up now?

How about acknolwdging the fact Witten's stats dropped in 2005 from 2004 because he was forced to help our OL more than he was in pass patterns?

Can you be honest?