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The loss of quarterback Aaron Rodgers and an undeniable decline in athletic ability resulted in a shocking final stat line for Green Bay Packers receiver Jordy Nelson in 2017.

Coach Mike McCarthy ruled out Nelson (shoulder) for Sunday’s Week 17 matchup with the Detroit Lions, ending the veteran receiver’s season.

His final numbers in 2017: 53 catches, 482 yards and six touchdowns over 15 games.

A year ago, Nelson played in 16 games and caught 97 passes for 1,257 yards and 14 touchdowns. He caught 44 fewer passes for 775 fewer yards and eight fewer touchdowns this year.

Nelson also played roughly 200 fewer snaps and received 64 fewer targets.

The dropoff was severe.

Nelson had zero games with 100 or more receiving yards and finished the year with nine straight games under 40 receiving yards. He averaged 9.1 yards per catch, 32.1 yards per game and had just one catch over 30 yards.

Over the final nine games, Nelson caught 28 passes for 192 yards and zero scores. His final touchdown in 2017 came in Week 5, one week before Rodgers suffered a broken collarbone on Oct. 15 against the Minnesota Vikings.

Nelson’s last catch over 20 yards was a 26-yarder from Brett Hundley after Rodgers went down in Minnesota. His longest reception over the final nine games was just 17 yards.

Of Nelson’s 482 receiving yards, only 129 came after the catch. He averaged 2.4 yards after the catch, by far the lowest of his NFL career.

Nelson is currently the only receiver this season to see more than 80 targets and produce fewer than 500 yards.

Even when Rodgers was healthy during the first five games, Nelson was on pace for fewer than 800 receiving yards. And when he returned in Week 15, Nelson caught only three passes and made no impact on the 31-24 defeat.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/29/jordy-nelsons-final-numbers-in-2017-are-hard-to-believe/

When I say “underlying,” I mean that Nelson has indeed slowed down – both as to speed and quickness, and this slowdown has had a snowball effect, leading to a major drop off in targets, catches, and yardage.

As recently as 2014, Nelson was statistically computed to be the best deep receiver in the league. We’ve had 14 games to observe Nelson this year. He is not the deep threat he once was. He can still get deep, but now it is only for a brief moment as most defensive backs, being faster, can recover rapidly. When your deep threat deteriorates, defenders can guard you more tightly.

Next, look at Nelson’s footwork. His moves seem like they’re almost done in slow motion compared to, say, Davante Adams. As with his deep sprints, the separation he gains from defenders due to his moves is short lived. He does separate, but the quarterback usually has to anticipate Nelson’s break if he is to get the ball to him prior to the defender closing that gap. At any rate, that’s what I see on the film.

https://www.totalpackers.com/2017/12/jordy-nelson-now-going-forward/
 

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The loss of quarterback Aaron Rodgers and an undeniable decline in athletic ability resulted in a shocking final stat line for Green Bay Packers receiver Jordy Nelson in 2017.

Coach Mike McCarthy ruled out Nelson (shoulder) for Sunday’s Week 17 matchup with the Detroit Lions, ending the veteran receiver’s season.

His final numbers in 2017: 53 catches, 482 yards and six touchdowns over 15 games.

A year ago, Nelson played in 16 games and caught 97 passes for 1,257 yards and 14 touchdowns. He caught 44 fewer passes for 775 fewer yards and eight fewer touchdowns this year.

Nelson also played roughly 200 fewer snaps and received 64 fewer targets.

The dropoff was severe.

Nelson had zero games with 100 or more receiving yards and finished the year with nine straight games under 40 receiving yards. He averaged 9.1 yards per catch, 32.1 yards per game and had just one catch over 30 yards.

Over the final nine games, Nelson caught 28 passes for 192 yards and zero scores. His final touchdown in 2017 came in Week 5, one week before Rodgers suffered a broken collarbone on Oct. 15 against the Minnesota Vikings.

Nelson’s last catch over 20 yards was a 26-yarder from Brett Hundley after Rodgers went down in Minnesota. His longest reception over the final nine games was just 17 yards.

Of Nelson’s 482 receiving yards, only 129 came after the catch. He averaged 2.4 yards after the catch, by far the lowest of his NFL career.

Nelson is currently the only receiver this season to see more than 80 targets and produce fewer than 500 yards.

Even when Rodgers was healthy during the first five games, Nelson was on pace for fewer than 800 receiving yards. And when he returned in Week 15, Nelson caught only three passes and made no impact on the 31-24 defeat.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/29/jordy-nelsons-final-numbers-in-2017-are-hard-to-believe/

When I say “underlying,” I mean that Nelson has indeed slowed down – both as to speed and quickness, and this slowdown has had a snowball effect, leading to a major drop off in targets, catches, and yardage.

As recently as 2014, Nelson was statistically computed to be the best deep receiver in the league. We’ve had 14 games to observe Nelson this year. He is not the deep threat he once was. He can still get deep, but now it is only for a brief moment as most defensive backs, being faster, can recover rapidly. When your deep threat deteriorates, defenders can guard you more tightly.

Next, look at Nelson’s footwork. His moves seem like they’re almost done in slow motion compared to, say, Davante Adams. As with his deep sprints, the separation he gains from defenders due to his moves is short lived. He does separate, but the quarterback usually has to anticipate Nelson’s break if he is to get the ball to him prior to the defender closing that gap. At any rate, that’s what I see on the film.

https://www.totalpackers.com/2017/12/jordy-nelson-now-going-forward/

Nelson had 6 touchdowns in 5 games before the Packers went to a "no quarterback offense".

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NelsJo00/gamelog/2017/

And he's had over 1250 yards and 14 touchdowns the year before. But again, this is to be expected by Cowboys fans. We didn't sign him so he's not that good...
 

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Nelson had 6 touchdowns in 5 games before the Packers went to a "no quarterback offense".

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NelsJo00/gamelog/2017/

And he's had over 1250 yards and 14 touchdowns the year before. But again, this is to be expected by Cowboys fans. We didn't sign him so he's not that good...
I disagree with you. I don't think it's a thing of because we didn't sign him he isn't good. He has declined due mostly to age. Now we are looking at another year and personally I see him declining more. I could be wrong on that but much rather have the younger and more explosive Hurns
 

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My biggest fear?

Jerry now has another excuse when Garrett fails for yet another season.

"Well we did have considerable turnover at the receiver position..."
I hope Dez goes to a NFCE team. Dez will prove the FO wrong or the FO will show they were right. But if Dez shows they were wrong, time to clean house.
 

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I disagree with you. I don't think it's a thing of because we didn't sign him he isn't good. He has declined due mostly to age. Now we are looking at another year and personally I see him declining more. I could be wrong on that but much rather have the younger and more explosive Hurns

"Younger and more explosive" hasn't translated into production.

Nelson's productivity blows away anything Hurns has ever done.
 

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I hope Dez goes to a NFCE team. Dez will prove the FO wrong or the FO will show they were right. But if Dez shows they were wrong, time to clean house.

It would be poetic justice.
 

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Nelson had 6 touchdowns in 5 games before the Packers went to a "no quarterback offense".

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NelsJo00/gamelog/2017/

And he's had over 1250 yards and 14 touchdowns the year before. But again, this is to be expected by Cowboys fans. We didn't sign him so he's not that good...

Congratulation on your cherry picking. He also had a severe injury between the two years and is now 32 years old.

You were given statistical and physical reasons to not like him in detail. Your strawman is crap.
 

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Congratulation on your cherry picking. He also had a severe injury between the two years and is now 32 years old.

And his numbers crush anything anything this teams receivers have ever done.

But yeah, you look at one season with no quarterback and then accuse anyone else of "cherry picking".

Sheesh!
 

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If this was the decision they were going to make, why wasn't it done months ago?

Why wasn't the player given the best chance for a new deal elsewhere?

Why didn't the team free up the cap space when they really needed it most?

Why didn't they do it when the other top receivers were available?

Does anyone in that building know what they're doing?

:banghead:
after watching the 3 game skid last year where we could not score more than 10 pts in each game and watching little to no adjustments to scheme
and then watching Green get anihilated....i know our coaching and FO is so screwed up
 

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I hope Dez goes to a NFCE team. Dez will prove the FO wrong or the FO will show they were right.
The Cowboys FO will be proven right. Dez isn't worth the contract he had. His skills have simply diminished too far.
 

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after watching the 3 game skid last year where we could not score more than 10 pts in each game and watching little to no adjustments to scheme
and then watching Green get anihilated....i know our coaching and FO is so screwed up

But they get a pass while it's all placed on this one player.
Yeh, it was all Dez Bryant's fault.
 

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after watching the 3 game skid last year where we could not score more than 10 pts in each game and watching little to no adjustments to scheme
and then watching Green get anihilated....i know our coaching and FO is so screwed up
Yeah but people hate Dez’s personality so they tie in stats to come out of the closet
 

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And his numbers crush anything anything this teams receivers have ever done.

But yeah, you look at one season with no quarterback and then accuse anyone else of "cherry picking".

Sheesh!

Not post injury and physical debilitation they don't. And how many TDs did he have after those 6 you are waving your hands at? Could it be zero?

88 targets 482 yards. That is garbage. 5.4 YPA. EWW!!
 

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The loss of quarterback Aaron Rodgers and an undeniable decline in athletic ability resulted in a shocking final stat line for Green Bay Packers receiver Jordy Nelson in 2017.

Coach Mike McCarthy ruled out Nelson (shoulder) for Sunday’s Week 17 matchup with the Detroit Lions, ending the veteran receiver’s season.

His final numbers in 2017: 53 catches, 482 yards and six touchdowns over 15 games.

A year ago, Nelson played in 16 games and caught 97 passes for 1,257 yards and 14 touchdowns. He caught 44 fewer passes for 775 fewer yards and eight fewer touchdowns this year.

Nelson also played roughly 200 fewer snaps and received 64 fewer targets.

The dropoff was severe.

Nelson had zero games with 100 or more receiving yards and finished the year with nine straight games under 40 receiving yards. He averaged 9.1 yards per catch, 32.1 yards per game and had just one catch over 30 yards.

Over the final nine games, Nelson caught 28 passes for 192 yards and zero scores. His final touchdown in 2017 came in Week 5, one week before Rodgers suffered a broken collarbone on Oct. 15 against the Minnesota Vikings.

Nelson’s last catch over 20 yards was a 26-yarder from Brett Hundley after Rodgers went down in Minnesota. His longest reception over the final nine games was just 17 yards.

Of Nelson’s 482 receiving yards, only 129 came after the catch. He averaged 2.4 yards after the catch, by far the lowest of his NFL career.

Nelson is currently the only receiver this season to see more than 80 targets and produce fewer than 500 yards.

Even when Rodgers was healthy during the first five games, Nelson was on pace for fewer than 800 receiving yards. And when he returned in Week 15, Nelson caught only three passes and made no impact on the 31-24 defeat.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/29/jordy-nelsons-final-numbers-in-2017-are-hard-to-believe/

When I say “underlying,” I mean that Nelson has indeed slowed down – both as to speed and quickness, and this slowdown has had a snowball effect, leading to a major drop off in targets, catches, and yardage.

As recently as 2014, Nelson was statistically computed to be the best deep receiver in the league. We’ve had 14 games to observe Nelson this year. He is not the deep threat he once was. He can still get deep, but now it is only for a brief moment as most defensive backs, being faster, can recover rapidly. When your deep threat deteriorates, defenders can guard you more tightly.

Next, look at Nelson’s footwork. His moves seem like they’re almost done in slow motion compared to, say, Davante Adams. As with his deep sprints, the separation he gains from defenders due to his moves is short lived. He does separate, but the quarterback usually has to anticipate Nelson’s break if he is to get the ball to him prior to the defender closing that gap. At any rate, that’s what I see on the film.

https://www.totalpackers.com/2017/12/jordy-nelson-now-going-forward/

I seemed to recall an event involving another departing receiver, Dez Bryant, who should have sent the Cowboys to the NFC Championship game, if the refs didn't have posterior defilade in calling the game changer. But similar stats following that same game time...
 

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Not post injury and physical debilitation they don't. And how many TDs did he have after those 6 you are waving your hands at? Could it be zero?

88 targets 482 yards. That is garbage. 5.4 YPA. EWW!!

Lol, the current 'triplets' have Elliott and Prescott...and the previous had Romo, Elliott, and Bryant. Guess that is called evolving from a point in time.
 

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"Younger and more explosive" hasn't translated into production.

Nelson's productivity blows away anything Hurns has ever done.
What did Nelson do last year? Of course Nelson has had a better year then Hurns, he is over 30 now. Nelson won't produce like that again so right now Hurns is younger and more explosive. Hurns yards per catch shows that as well. Nelson isn't that same guy from 2 years ago
 

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The plan is create cap space. Have a good draft. Miss the playoffs and try again next season.
 

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And his numbers crush anything anything this teams receivers have ever done.

But yeah, you look at one season with no quarterback and then accuse anyone else of "cherry picking".

Sheesh!
Dez has had a better year then Nelson's from 2 years ago that you keep posting so no he doesn't crush anything this team receivers have done.
 
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