Something seems different

[Section446]

I the Cowboys original pick was R1-30 would that have been too early for Lawrence in your opinion?

Well, if we were picking at 30, we'd be a lot better team, and this would be a totally different conversation. Fact is, we're a very average team, and we have many needs. Letting an early pick go is just a poor decision, in my mind.

 

[Idgit]

Garrett plays not to lose and when you do that you stay average like we always do.

Playing not to lose is actually what you want in the NFL. of course, it's easier if you actually have the defense to make that happen, which we don't.

 

[KJJ]

Great post. Posters had a realistic outlook right up until the first Cowboy draft pick was announced. After that, they were back in fantasy land where seventh round picks are All-Pros. You left off one tidbit. If you will notice, players like Mo and Carter have the talent, but it doesn't show up on the field. Carr is supposed to be a top CB and others are not playing up to their potential. It seems like the country club atmosphere is not helping to motivate the players. The coaches are not getting the most out of the talent on the team.

Mo and Carter having the talent but not living up to their potential goes without saying. Even the FANS living on fantasy Island who talk SB every year with the Cowboys aren't blind to the fact that several players have underachieved and that falls on the HC. Mo was the 6th overall pick and was touted as the best defensive player in the draft in 2012. The Cowboys traded up to get him and he's been a flop. The Cowboys invested a #2 on Carter who some thought had more potential than Sean Lee. Most were anticipating a breakout year from Carter last season only to watch him regress. As for Carr he was never a top corner or KC would have never allowed him to walk their best corner was Flowers.

There were mixed feelings about Carr who was rated behind Cortland Finnegan in free agency. The Cowboys clearly over paid Carr who hasn't improved the secondary. Carr was so abused last season it was painful to watch. The secondary was better with Newman and Jenkins than with Carr and Claiborne. Even though very few players remain from the 6-10 2010 team the best the Cowboys have played under Garrett since he took over was the last 8 games of that season when the team went 5-3 which included a win on the road over a Peyton Manning led Colts team.

Garrett went 5-3 on a team that had only one win and just quit on Wade. It was a team that was being led by old man Kitna. Garrett even won a game on the road in Philly that season after Kitna was injured with Stephen McGee at QB who's no longer on an NFL roster. Jerry scared that team into playing better after firing Wade and telling his players they were playing for their jobs the following season. He should try that same approach every season of having his team play in fear for their jobs each year it worked for Jimmy.

 

[KJJ]

An aging Terence Newman whose wheels appeared to be coming off had 9 int's his last 2 seasons in Dallas 5 of which came on the Cowboys 6-10 team. He had more picks his last 2 seasons with the Cowboys than Carr and Claiborne combined their 2 seasons in Dallas despite those two being thrown at all the time.

It's pretty discouraging when you dump an aging corner who looked about done and another who looked better suited to be a matador for a $50 million free agent and the 6th overall pick in the draft and end up with an even worse secondary that's contributed to several franchise and NFL futility records.

 

[Rockport]

All of it means nothing to me until the actual results on the field change.


I think Garrett is so bad at coaching that we will never be a real threat with him.

Garrett led the team to an 8-8 record last year with the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time. That's impressive.

 

[CATCH17]

Garrett led the team to an 8-8 record last year with the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time. That's impressive.

That's some Jerry Jones reasoning right there.

The Cowboys were projected to be 8-8 and lose the last game of the season to miss the playoffs and they did just that .

Garrett did nothing impressive. He just proved all of his doubters right again for another year.

 

[RS12]

Something seems different

When I see the record improve, something will seem different.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

All of it means nothing to me until the actual results on the field change.


I think Garrett is so bad at coaching that we will never be a real threat with him.

Bingo!

 

[KJJ]

Garrett led the team to an 8-8 record last year with the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time. That's impressive.

Garrett has to take part of the blame for having the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time he's the HC and the one who convinced Jerry to hire Kiffin last season. All Garrett did was gush over Kiffin who turned the defense into a laughing stock. Marinelli will be the 3rd DC under Garrett in as many years. Garrett won 5 of 8 games with Kitna and McGee in 2010 and has batted 500 since even though he's had Romo as his starting QB in every game but one.

 

[KJJ]

Garrett had the 14th ranked defense in 2011 and still ended up 8-8. He had the 19th ranked defense in 2012 and again ended up 8-8. In 2011 the Packers had about as bad a defense as the Cowboys in 2013. They were ranked #32 in total defense just like the Cowboys last season and were approaching at least one NFL futility record but still ended up 15-1 that season. Now that's impressive!

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Garrett won 5 of 8 games with Kitna and McGee in 2010 and has batted 500 since even though he's had Romo as his starting QB in every game but one.

.500 with a choker non clutch QB who cant win the games that matter mos,t but better with Kitna and McGee must mean Romo is the reason for the .500 mediocrity.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

The annual "something feels different" thread.

 

[jnday]

.500 with a choker non clutch QB who cant win the games that matter mos,t but better with Kitna and McGee must mean Romo is the reason for the .500 mediocrity.

It sure seemed odd that Kitna came in and turned the team around. I saw more leadership from him than I had since Troy Aikman was playing. Kitna's teammates responded to him and elevated their play. I never cared for Kitna when he played for the Lions, but he gained my respect that season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm pro-Lawrence but this notion that you can't question the Cowboys front office because they acted according to their ratings is nonsense to me. What if their ratings are wrong?.

You don't know that their ratings are wrong or right. They set up their draft board and at the time of the draft they worked it to get the player they wanted.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The annual "something feels different" thread.

There is something different. We are doing things we have never done before.

 

[Risen Star]

You don't know that their ratings are wrong or right. They set up their draft board and at the time of the draft they worked it to get the player they wanted.

As do all teams. Every year.

And people will judge them based on their own perceptions of the value of the players selected.

 

[Rockport]

Garrett had the 14th ranked defense in 2011 and still ended up 8-8. He had the 19th ranked defense in 2012 and again ended up 8-8. In 2011 the Packers had about as bad a defense as the Cowboys in 2013. They were ranked #32 in total defense just like the Cowboys last season and were approaching at least one NFL futility record but still ended up 15-1 that season. Now that's impressive!

Haters will hate.

 

[Risen Star]

There is something different. We are doing things we have never done before.

Such as?

Because from where I'm sitting, the culture of the team hasn't changed one iota.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Such as?

Because from where I'm sitting, the culture of the team hasn't changed one iota.

Such as?? Really? The way the Cowboys are running their business this offseason is considerably different than before. Ask Ware for starters.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

It sure seemed odd that Kitna came in and turned the team around. I saw more leadership from him than I had since Troy Aikman was playing. Kitna's teammates responded to him and elevated their play. I never cared for Kitna when he played for the Lions, but he gained my respect that season.

Is it possible that the rest of the guys picked it up knowing that w/o Tony they had to step it up and stand in the gap?