Something seems different

What's different is someone finally got tired of "RKG" because we are kicking the tires on anyone with talent and upside which is what a professional sports organization should do. If it proves that the players personality is a hinderance to the team at that point you cut him but you don't only bring in sweethearts. And people wonder why our team has been a cupcake festival for the past 3 seasons.
 
I know it's early and I maybe falling in a trap yet again with my beloved Cowboys but their seems to be something different going on with the organization. We are aggressively searching high and low churning this roster looking to add guys who are coming to try out for us who may have been disregarded or given up on. Now I'm not saying this means anything cause we haven't played a game yet but I like the direction we are headed in. We r a young football team we are getting real young on D still remains to be seen if it translates on the field but I like we are being aggressive

It'll take one big hit on romo for us to come back to reality but we definitely have the beginnings of a real solid football team. No doubt.
 
Pretty reasonable until you got to the point where you wanted to make your Jerry bash. I don't wan't to defend Jerry but but there is no way he believes that. So, let's draft a second tier SDE and put him on the weak side and hope he can replace Ware. If he can't, no worries, we'll just try the same thing next year. THEY traded up because they felt like he was the best prospect at WDE and we need a WDE.
. If I wanted to bash Jerry, I can do much better than that. Giving up the third is a panic move. Now on to Ealy. Ealy is not a second tier prospect. He also plays WDE. The ideal that I have is no different than drafting an OT and playing him at OG. Ealy would offer a big SDE upgrade next year if he didn't do well at WDE this year. If you believe reports from the team, Lawrence will play on passing downs only. Limited snaps means a limited impact. In the long term, my ideal would offer the the chance to keep the third round pick and upgrade both DE positions within two seasons. Chances are that a much better WDE prospect will be available in next years draft. This draft was weak at the DE positions. The team having some patience would pay off much better in the long run. If Lawrence turns out to be the next Charles Haley, their gamble will pay off. Even then, it will be a couple if years before he becomes a full time starter.
 
I don't see how anyone can be down on this team at the moment, or even the way this off season has turned out. We've aggressively addressed team needs, now it's just up to the players whether they're going to make an impact or not.

The team is still Coached by the same staff and owned by the same owner and managed by the same general manager or lack there of. That is why ppl can still be down on this team.
 
Similar threads like this appear every year around this time with FANS getting pumped up for the upcoming season claiming something seems different with the team this year. Yes it's FANS like you falling into the same trap year after year trying to convince yourselves that this season will finally be different. It was either last year or the year before that someone started a thread with a video of Garrett addressing the team prior to training camp. That video got a lot of FANS fired up with many claiming that Garrett sounded different even though he sounded like the same robotic HC we've been hearing ever since he took over as the Cowboys HC in 2010. Before Garrett's speech some said they weren't feeling all that optimistic about the upcoming season but after the speech a few FANS got so juiced up they were predicting 11 to 13 wins with at least one playoff win and one FAN even went so far as predicting the Cowboys would go all the way. :rolleyes:

Wish I could find the video of Garrett gushing all over the addition of Monte Kiffin in Jan of 2013. That had one FAN so stoked he predicted the Cowboys would be a top 5 defense in 2013. lol You gotta love Cowboy FANS it doesn't take much to bring them back from the depths of depression after a disappointing mediocre season that was a repeat of the previous disappointing mediocre season to get them thinking SB again once May arrives. The Cowboys have been churning the roster since after the 2010 season. There's very few players still around from that 6-10 team but it's only resulted in 2 more wins in each of the last 3 seasons and not one single playoff appearance.

Adding players who have been given up on by other teams doesn't exactly have me thinking we're heading for a better season in 2014. Adding cheap castoffs is a desperate move by a cap strapped mediocre team looking for help hoping they may uncover some gold while sifting through all the discarded trash. Getting real young doesn't always equate to getting better. To get better you need good young players who show improvement each year unlike players like Morris Claiborne and Bruce Carter who the team was expecting a lot from but who have yet to deliver. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but we won't find out if anything is different with this team until they hit the field in Sept. It's FANS trying to spin something seems different in May that causes so many of them to sound suicidal once the regular season begins when they realize nothing is different.

Great post. Posters had a realistic outlook right up until the first Cowboy draft pick was announced. After that, they were back in fantasy land where seventh round picks are All-Pros. You left off one tidbit. If you will notice, players like Mo and Carter have the talent, but it doesn't show up on the field. Carr is supposed to be a top CB and others are not playing up to their potential. It seems like the country club atmosphere is not helping to motivate the players. The coaches are not getting the most out of the talent on the team.
 
It's cool if he is being serious, he's entitled to his opinion, just feels like one of those "said no one ever" moments.

Yeah, completely serious. And I don't think the sentiment is a that rare, either. Though it hasn't been popular here.
 
I've really tried to have faith in this team, it just doesn't work. I will say though, I recognize that there appears to be a philosophical change taking place at the highest levels of the team, which gives me some faith for the future. Romo and Witten are the last of the guys left from the "old team", hopefully after this season, we can move on from them, and the cycle will be complete.

Dude I hate to be the sugar in your tank but Tony Romo and Jason Witten aren't going anywhere next season and to hope they do is not conducive to us winning unless you've got answers that nobody else in the entire league has.

These types of statements are just astounding in that they fly in the face of every logical, personnel and economical reasoning of the franchise as it now stands. Why would you say that when you absolutely know it's never going to happen.

How about, "with a solid draft, better luck with injuries and some key coaching moves we may have put every player in a better position to succeed including Romo and Witten."

See how easy while being realistic?
 
All of it means nothing to me until the actual results on the field change.


I think Garrett is so bad at coaching that we will never be a real threat with him.

Catch17...You and I go way back to The Ranch...and normally we agree on about 99% of everything. But I gotta agree w/ the OP on this....Something is different this year. Someone else rather than Jerry is pulling the strings behind the scenes this year. I don't know who....other than the rumored Wil McClay. Regardless...Whoever it is...I feel this is the 1st time since Parcells that there is a sense of hope. And I'd take whoever is making personnel decisions right now...over Parcells. There has been only 3 slightly questionable decisions IMO that I'd change..1. (I would have taken LB Telvin Smith over Hutchings in the 4th) 2. Would have signed RG Davin Joseph(FA Tampa Bay) 3. Would have drafted a punter (O'Donnell(Miami) to Chicago 6th round)....other than that....every other decision I can see the logic and would have made myself. (ok, maybe not cutting Ware..but that is another story) But to your point....For me as of right now..I think your right. Garrett has no more excuses. This is his team. And I for one like the direction of this team.(Finally)!!!! I just hope he can coach this SOB because the talent is here. The schedule is working against him is my fear....And he won't see the following season if we fall below 500. If you did see solid coaching decisions and this team still under performed...then this would be a hard call to make regarding a coaching change. IMO this team is still a year away from being a serious contender...but then your facing Romo, Witten, Spencer, Carr, being another year older. So where do you go from there?
 
Dude I hate to be the sugar in your tank but Tony Romo and Jason Witten aren't going anywhere next season and to hope they do is not conducive to us winning unless you've got answers that nobody else in the entire league has.

These types of statements are just astounding in that they fly in the face of every logical, personnel and economical reasoning of the franchise as it now stands. Why would you say that when you absolutely know it's never going to happen.

How about, "with a solid draft, better luck with injuries and some key coaching moves we may have put every player in a better position to succeed including Romo and Witten."

See how easy while being realistic?

Realistically, we've never won anything with either, and they aren't getting any younger, or better. They are all that's left from a decade I'd like to forget. It's time for something new. You may be happy with 8-8, and if you are are, more power to you. Personally, I don't feel that it pays to be 8-8 in the NFL, which is all we are with Romo pulling the trigger.
 
It is kinda strange that the outlook for the team has done a 180 degree turn since the week before the draft. This must be one heck of a draft class or either Jerry has sucked them in again.

It's just a true fans way of rooting for his team. Hope springs eternal... until dashed upon the stones of failure :D We hope for the best until there is no hope.
 
I think that his point is that we could have gotten two starters, rather than one (on a very talent needy team). If that one was a sure thing, then you take a chance on him. In his mind, Lawrence clearly isn't a sure thing.

Actually we could have gotten 3 starters vs 1 and potential 2nd one in DL.
 
Stayed on course, of what Jones usually does, yes. So I guess, in that instance I was not surprised.

I'm feeling that the stamp of Jerry has been modified to the stamp of Jerry plus Steven and Jason over the last 3 seasons and now add another vote to the mix with the stamp of Will McClay. That evens out the club box ticket/merchandise sales votes and the playing field votes. Things are changing and the acquisitions look better than ever this offseason.
 
Sorry I know Iam not clear at times.I took acceptation to the project label on DLaw. DLaw was the last of the top tier players[DE] on the cowboy board. I think they lost about 70 point in trade value. They valued him more then later DE's, obviously.
I would rather acquire top of talent as possible then middling talent.
One way or the other we're another draft away from filling the holes.
You and I have different philosophies on building rosters is all.

In the end you might be right.How do we know

No problem with different opinions. We are both Cowboys fans so its all good. I just think he was high on the Cowboys board because he was the last RDE they had rated highly and they wanted to make sure they filled Ware's position right away. I think they went with immediate need vs BPA. I would have no problem with that if DL was a slam dunk player like Martin for example. We know what we have with Martin but we don't know what we have with DL and to make it worse, we now don't have a 3rd round starter either.
 
I never heard the team claim he was slam dunk. Ware wasn't either .Ware sure ended up a hell of a player. but I remember the debate before the draft over Ware and Merriman. Today that seems silly
but then there was lots of arguing over who to take.Even the coaches didn't seem so sure.Merriman ended up a bust. There is no way we fans can know as much as scouts and coaches.
We lost picking one player .We're not one player away from competing for the SB. Where have I heard that before.

I think you're missing the point. It's a numbers game. You can take 3 guys you think are solid or you can pick 2 guys you think are solid. Your odds are better taking 3, especially when your team is full of holes. Weather they work out or not is besides the point.
 
Go back and read some posts from last year around this time. There were similar posts. In fact, go back the year before, and you'll see the same post then. Yet every season with JG as HC has been the same. 8-8 and no playoffs.

This is true. However, each season brings change and possibilities for Cowboys fans.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy about Ealy either, but I don't think he offers any less than Lawrence. I really feel like the trade up was more of a desperation pick than a logical pick, and desperation is not something you want to calculate into your drafting decisions.
The Cowboyis had 3 WDE's targeted because #4 on their list was a significant dropoff so they traded up to ensure getting Lawrence. Call it desperation if you want but since they tried to get back into the 1st round late Thursday to get him and had all day Friday to think about it and still made a move to get him Friday night clearly they had this logically thought out. They were not interested in Jernigan or Ealy and consider Lawrence to be much better than Ealy.
 
The Cowboyis had 3 WDE's targeted because #4 on their list was a significant dropoff so they traded up to ensure getting Lawrence. Call it desperation if you want but since they tried to get back into the 1st round late Thursday to get him and had all day Friday to think about it and still made a move to get him Friday night clearly they had this logically thought out. They were not interested in Jernigan or Ealy and consider Lawrence to be much better than Ealy.

Why is it logical? Because the Cowboys did it?

I'm pro-Lawrence but this notion that you can't question the Cowboys front office because they acted according to their ratings is nonsense to me. What if their ratings are wrong? That's happened a time or twelve over the years.

You can defend every single draft pick made by this premise. All teams acted according to their own evaluations. All teams had a plan. There's a rhyme or reason for every selection made and a lot of those picks will turn out to be terrible decisions.
 
The Cowboyis had 3 WDE's targeted because #4 on their list was a significant dropoff so they traded up to ensure getting Lawrence. Call it desperation if you want but since they tried to get back into the 1st round late Thursday to get him and had all day Friday to think about it and still made a move to get him Friday night clearly they had this logically thought out. They were not interested in Jernigan or Ealy and consider Lawrence to be much better than Ealy.

I don't have any idea how this pick will work out but I do know one thing, just because Jerry thinks about something for a day doesn't mean it was logical.
 

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