Source: Campo a possibility to be Cowboys’ secondary coach

[windward]

Please God NO!!!!!

Those who think Campo was a good position coach aren't remembering correctly when he coached our DBs. He was the guy who first started with them playing 10 yards off the LOS and not playing the ball.

Dave Campo was the worst thing that ever happened to our DBs.

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Dallas Pass defenses under Dave Campo as secondary coach/DC
1990 2nd
1991 23rd (just poor personnel Kevin Smith and Thomas Everett next year did much to improve personnel)
1992 5th
1993 10th
1994 9th
1995 8th
1996 3rd
1997 1st
1998 22nd (Banged up Deion,Kevin Smith. Kevin Mathis starting?Ugh.)
1999 13th (Charlie Williams?double ugh ditto for Mathis and washe up Pup and Deion)

Pretty solid track record if you ask me.

Not bad at all

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

hey hos, when does free agency start?

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110410

 

[windward]

Brilliant retort.



So good that Jack Del Rio is willing to allow him to leave after his vaunted secondary was burned for nearly 600 yards in two playoff games.

Oh like you're the king of substantive posts.

I explained why it was irrelevant. So they were burned by Tom Brady this year? Like that is something to crucify someone over.

They allowed a lot of passing yards against the Steelers because the Steelers trailed by 17 going into the fourth. They were in pass mode the last quarter and a half. I also see you don't give them credit for forcing three turnovers. Typical.

 

[Rampage]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110410

thanks, march 3rd it is!

 

[dcfanatic]

Please god no.

Word.

 

[windward]

Incorrect.

If you listen to the Sunshine Brigade, Dave Campo was an integral part of our three Super Bowl titles in the 1990s.

I seem to remember a pretty good crew of Deion Sanders, Darren Woodson, Thomas Everett, James Washington, Kevin Smith and Larry Brown having even more to do with it.

He was an integral part. He will have talented players to coach if he comes here again. Who's to say he won't have the same success?

 

[dcfanatic]

What the secondary does has nothing to do with whether we run a 3-4 or 4-3.

That's a false statement.

Some 34 def coaches use a 3-4 which uses man to man 90% of the time, some use man to man 30% of the time.

Some 34 def coaches use their secondary to blitz a lot more.

Some 34 def coaches use the Safety in a LB role on the 'Dime' package like we did with Roy last season.

There are differences.

 

[Alexander]

Oh like you're the king of substantive posts.

I explained why it was irrelevant. So they were burned by Tom Brady this year? Like that is something to crucify someone over.

They allowed a lot of passing yards against the Steelers because the Steelers trailed by 17 going into the fourth. They were in pass mode the last quarter and a half. I also see you don't give them credit for forcing three turnovers. Typical.

Care to explain why Del Rio is apparently not concerned about losing him then? Remember that this is a lateral move, in fact, for all practical purposes, a demotion, as he would not carry the assistant head coach title in Dallas.

I suspect you won't bother and continue make excuses and rave on like he was somehow even remotely responsible for our titles in the 1990s.

 

[Alexander]

He was an integral part. He will have talented players to coach if he comes here again. Who's to say he won't have the same success?

Why would he? I see one player (Newman) who could start on any of those secondaries he won with.

 

[dcfanatic]

Well, Roy did have his best years under him. I would rather have fresh blood with this position though.

Year. He had his best year under him as a rookie when Woody was around to save Roy most of the time.

 

[Bach]

Hey if we hire Campo as HC again I'll be right with everyone slitting their wrists.:laugh1:

Yeah. Right. :laugh2:

If Campo would be hired as HC again, you'd be right there defending it and bashing anyone who didn't.

 

[gbrittain]

Very few coaches could have had consistent success with the teams he had.

Not a great coach but could have done a little better if he had a talented squad like we have now.

Exactly.

There are some options that I like better, but it has nothing to do with what happened years ago.

 

[THUMPER]

Dallas Pass defenses under Dave Campo as secondary coach/DC
1990 2nd
1991 23rd (just poor personnel Kevin Smith and Thomas Everett next year did much to improve personnel)
1992 5th
1993 10th
1994 9th
1995 8th
1996 3rd
1997 1st
1998 22nd (Banged up Deion,Kevin Smith. Kevin Mathis starting?Ugh.)
1999 13th (Charlie Williams?double ugh ditto for Mathis and washe up Pup and Deion)

Pretty solid track record if you ask me.

Not bad at all

I assume those rankings are based solely on yardage. A meaningless stat for measuring a defense.

 

[windward]

Care to explain why Del Rio is apparently not concerned about losing him then? Remember that this is a lateral move, in fact, for all practical purposes, a demotion, as he would not carry the assistant head coach title in Dallas.

I suspect you won't bother and continue make excuses and rave on like he was somehow even remotely responsible for our titles in the 1990s.

So because Del Rio is willing to let him leave means he's a bad coach? Faulty logic there. There could be other reasons than Del Rio wanting him to leave such as honoring a man's wish to return to Dallas where he has family. You assume it's because Del Rio wants him gone when it's one of many possible scenarios.

Campo had top rated pass defenses when the Cowboys were winning SBs. That can be attributed to talent, but talent alone does not guarantee success as this year's Cowboys show.

Do you honestly think when we were winning Super Bowls Campo just sat on the bench digging his nose and scratching his butt?

 

[windward]

Yeah. Right. :laugh2:

If Campo would be hired as HC again, you'd be right there defending it and bashing anyone who didn't.

Uh no I wouldn't.

 

[dfense]

Campo is a good coach ..... just a bad head coach.

You are right about that. Campo's defenses were always top 10. Even the year the team had to play with no money to sign players because of cap issues, Campo's defense played hard for him with what they had. He even had to step in after Zimmer took over and allowed 3 200 yard rushers and he saved Zimmer's ***. He was a head coach to an old team that needed to be overhauled.

 

[dmq]

Campo was bad because he suffered from the Cap situation that Jerry put him in.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I've been wondering who would be Garrett's DC when he takes over in '09. I think I may have just found my answer...:blech:

 

[windward]

I assume those rankings are based solely on yardage. A meaningless stat for measuring a defense.

Fine lets use yards per attempt and TDs allowed.

1990 2nd,2nd
1991 22nd, 11th
1992 4th, 8th
1993 6th, 4th
1994 2nd, 8th
1995 13th 7th
1996 8th, 1st
1997 5th, 11th
1998 26th, 18th
1999 16th 7th

Still pretty solid

People are letting the 5--11 seasons as HC (which have no bearing on his performance as a secondary coach) prevent them from making an honest evaluation of the guy's track record as an assistant.

 

[windward]

I've been wondering who would be Garrett's DC when he takes over in '09. I think I may have just found my answer...:blech:

Brian Stewart or Todd Grantham, happy?