Source: Campo a possibility to be Cowboys’ secondary coach

InmanRoshi

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After he's he's hired, who wants to lay down odds who will be employed longer by the Cowboys beyond 2008 ... Wade or Campo?

And does Lacewell still have his own office at Valley Ranch? Just checking.
 

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theebs;1928014 said:
Please god no.

There were literally the exact words that went through my head.



What happened to Dennis Thurman?
 

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Alexander;1928423 said:
Not to defend this choice, but this league is full of retreads. Like a soap opera where every ends up dating or marrying each other, the same pawns tend to be in play and probably will be for a while as many executives are leery of hiring college coaches any more. It is like a strange game of musical chairs. Except this coach has already sat in our chair.

not to slam you cause you're so...arrogant...but...

the forum is full of posters who know what to do but could never get a job doing it.

i'll genuflect when you succeed. till then, you're just a whiner.
 

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InmanRoshi;1928524 said:
After he's he's hired, who wants to lay down odds who will be employed longer by the Cowboys beyond 2008 ... Wade or Campo?

And does Lacewell still have his own office at Valley Ranch? Just checking.
Jones is quickly building the house from 2002 that Parcells tore down.

5-11 can't be far behind.
 

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Bach;1928368 said:
Whoever Jerry says it'll be.

Well, he's a One Trick Pony
One trick was all that horse could do
He does that one trick only
It's the principal source of his revenue...
 

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Alexander;1928406 said:
So be it. I would welcome it being above-board rather than this which is clearly not.

LOL... you talk as if Jerry has some obligation to keep us fans in the loop on these matters...

It is not fair to Phillips, even though he doesn't appear to mind.

Perhaps because he and Jerry have talked this all out, and are both on the same page...

Naw, that couldn't POSSIBLY be... what am I thinking??

Good ol' Alexander, show him a silver lining, and he'll dig and dig until he finds the cloud...
 

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Wade Phillips has been in this league a long time. Does he know Dave Campo? I find it difficult to get excited about this, for or against.
 

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Double Trouble;1928578 said:
Jones is quickly building the house from 2002 that Parcells tore down.

5-11 can't be far behind.

Blah blah blah blah blah...

Yada yada yada...

Time to get out that lead-lined umbrella, Chicken Little...
 

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theogt;1928016 said:
What the secondary does has nothing to do with whether we run a 3-4 or 4-3.


Exactamundo.

The secondary is amost an entity within itself in a defense. Now, the LB coach should have 3-4 experience, but that's a bit overrated as well. Good coaches can coach.
 

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.enough all season. Also he had them playing well in Cleveland while he was there.

The fact that they got lit up in the playoffs passing against Pittsburgh and the Patriots isn't something to fall on your sword about.

And Campo often while he was here defensively had to succeed with smoke and mirrors because he never had the talent in the secondary. The cupboard was bare, folks.

He will now if he comes here. We've practically got 4 All-Pros in the secondary when they are all healthy and put in the right positions.

Campo is fine. I don't think this is necessary a Jones hire and not a Phillips hire. It's looking for the most qualified coach available and it's not necessary that the DB backfield coach be a 3-4 coach.

They line up the same way in the 4-3 as the 3-4 in the defensive backfield.

It's more about disguising coverages and confusing the offense as to what you are doing and when. I think you would see more man-to man and less zone, which I think is needed.

Campo knows what to do.

Like Houck, this would be a good hire. Like the DL coach we just hired that had been the Cleveland defensive coordinator, what I like about these coaches are that you are bringing in guys that have had the responsibility of being responsible for coordinating entire defenses and working with other coaches to do that.

They know what the other assistants are dealing with and can better coach the players and make changes on the fly during games along with the other assistant coaches because they understand what is needed.

I'm not interested in being a breeding ground anymore for bringing in young coaches only to have them cherry picked. We need proven, established coaches that have experience and can take the team thru the next level.

Campo can do that along with some of these others.

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superpunk;1928385 said:
If you're terrified of Jerry though, I'm sure it just seems more and more like they're just getting the band back together.

That was exactly my initial thought.

Campo may or may not be a good positional coach, but after Jerry pulled the Houck over Solari move, its obvious Jerry is trying bring back some familiar faces. He's finding his comfort zone again - you know that one that hasn't produced a playoff win in over a decade.


These are people Jason Garrett is likely comfortable with. Long term, that might be wise.

See Solari argument above. I don't think it has anything to do with who Garrett is comfortable with , it's who Jerry is comfortable with.

Cue the Larry Lacewell Watch.
 

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wileedog;1928639 said:
That was exactly my initial thought.

Campo may or may not be a good positional coach, but after Jerry pulled the Houck over Solari move, its obvious Jerry is trying bring back some familiar faces. He's finding his comfort zone again - you know that one that hasn't produced a playoff win in over a decade.
The "discomfort" zone hasn't produced a playoff win in 5 years either.
 

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zrinkill;1927984 said:
Campo is a good coach ..... just a bad head coach.

He's really not much of a D-Coordinator either. He just had so much talent on defense. I don't mind him as the DB coach, but keep him away from anything else.




YAKUZA
 

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dcfanatic;1928340 said:
That's a false statement.

Some 34 def coaches use a 3-4 which uses man to man 90% of the time, some use man to man 30% of the time.

Some 34 def coaches use their secondary to blitz a lot more.

Some 34 def coaches use the Safety in a LB role on the 'Dime' package like we did with Roy last season.

There are differences.
Wow. You actually typed that. Sometimes I wonder how people function in society maintaining jobs, etc., without the slightest ability to reason through coherent thoughts.
 

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wileedog;1928639 said:
That was exactly my initial thought.

Campo may or may not be a good positional coach, but after Jerry pulled the Houck over Solari move, its obvious Jerry is trying bring back some familiar faces. He's finding his comfort zone again - you know that one that hasn't produced a playoff win in over a decade.




See Solari argument above. I don't think it has anything to do with who Garrett is comfortable with , it's who Jerry is comfortable with.

Cue the Larry Lacewell Watch.

Lacewell will need to stay hidden. He is as popular as Osama in Dallas and would likely meet the same resistance in the streets.
 

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theogt;1928016 said:
What the secondary does has nothing to do with whether we run a 3-4 or 4-3.

Seriously... Did Todd Bowles only coach a 3-4?
 

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RealCowboyfan;1928420 said:
Okay it's clearly why the Cowboys are going into this direction. Why? because maybe the Cowboys might be going back to the 4-3 once Wade Phillips is gone. In 2009? Maybe? Dave Campo will be the defensive cordinator of it like he was when Cowboys was winning superbowls.... :)


So they hired a 3-4 DL coach???
 

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Rampage;1928022 said:
jerry needs to let his head coach get his own assistants.

:hammer:


As much as I think Campo is a decent (non-head) coach, This new really bothers me.....
 
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