Source: Campo a possibility to be Cowboys’ secondary coach

windward;1928179 said:
Mansta!

Long time no see (as much as one can see one on a message board)

How's it going?

Going great, still trying to get over that Giant loss...:banghead:
 
yesfan;1928180 said:
Not by any means trying to be a Jerry basher and i will keep reading this
quote over and over again.It gives me hope the team will continue to
compete or even to get better.All i can think of is those three 5-11 years.
Hey if we hire Campo as HC again I'll be right with everyone slitting their wrists.:laugh1:
 
Mansta54;1928183 said:
Going great, still trying to get over that Giant loss...:banghead:
I've got a feeling we're going to see a much more driven Cowboys team in the playoffs next year.
 
windward;1928190 said:
I've got a feeling we're going to see a much more driven Cowboys team in the playoffs next year.
to take a phrase from the GEEEE-MEN...... 3rd times a charm?
 
windward;1928190 said:
I've got a feeling we're going to see a much more driven Cowboys team in the playoffs next year.

No doubt, I agree...
 
It's bizarre to see this news item today, because I was just wondering to myself the other day if Jerry would reach out for Campo. At the time I told myself, "nah, Jerry's learned. He knows better."

Then I see this.

Look, I acknowledge Campo's history as a position coach. Sure, he was around when we won three championships.

But he's not known for that. He is known for being the epitome of Jerry yes-men—a guy who went 5-11 three straight years as head coach. The guy who presided over a culture Parcells was brought in to erase.

What does it communicate to the players if Campo's brought back? Most of these guys were in middle school or grade school when Campo was sharing in the success of the 90s. But no doubt they're well aware of his most recent history in Dallas.

This would be a TERRIBLE move. Not necessarily because of Campo's ability to coach a secondary, but because of the message it sends. It's bad for Phillips and it's bad for the Cowboys.

Mark P.
 
MarkP88;1928204 said:
It's bizarre to see this news item today, because I was just wondering to myself the other day if Jerry would reach out for Campo. At the time I told myself, "nah, Jerry's learned. He knows better."

Then I see this.

Look, I acknowledge Campo's history as a position coach. Sure, he was around when we won three championships.

But he's not known for that. He is known for being the epitome of Jerry yes-men—a guy who went 5-11 three straight years as head coach. The guy who presided over a culture Parcells was brought in to erase.

What does it communicate to the players if Campo's brought back? Most of these guys were in middle school or grade school when Campo was sharing in the success of the 90s. But no doubt they're well aware of his most recent history in Dallas.

This would be a TERRIBLE move. Not necessarily because of Campo's ability to coach a secondary, but because of the message it sends. It's bad for Phillips and it's bad for the Cowboys.

Mark P.

Eloquently stated. Well done.
 
Alexander;1928208 said:
Eloquently stated. Well done.
It would be a terrible move because the players might think he's a yes man?

This is beyond bizarre. I mean, there are probably arguments to be made against him, but this?
 
Im by far not a Campo supporter.....but IMHO the only good thing he did here was be a very good secondary coach.

I thought he was way to passive as a DC and we all know what he did as a HC even thou he never had the resources Bill Bill had.

To get someone that has been a HC....a DC in the NFL and get him to coach the secondary is not a bad move. Philips isnt a dumb man and knows what coaches can do in this league.
 
MarkP88;1928204 said:
It's bizarre to see this news item today, because I was just wondering to myself the other day if Jerry would reach out for Campo. At the time I told myself, "nah, Jerry's learned. He knows better."

Then I see this.

Look, I acknowledge Campo's history as a position coach. Sure, he was around when we won three championships.

But he's not known for that. He is known for being the epitome of Jerry yes-men—a guy who went 5-11 three straight years as head coach. The guy who presided over a culture Parcells was brought in to erase.
BUT he won't bge the head coach. He'll bedoing the same thing he did when we won Super Bowls.

Markp88 said:
What does it communicate to the players if Campo's brought back? Most of these guys were in middle school or grade school when Campo was sharing in the success of the 90s. But no doubt they're well aware of his most recent history in Dallas.
It will communicate that the secondary coach that presided over the team's greatest run in franchise history is back and can help get the team back to the Super Bowl.

Markp88 said:
This would be a TERRIBLE move. Not necessarily because of Campo's ability to coach a secondary, but because of the message it sends. It's bad for Phillips and it's bad for the Cowboys.

Mark P.
It's only the message you think it sends. It could just as well be a terriffic hire.
 
MarkP88;1928204 said:
It's bizarre to see this news item today, because I was just wondering to myself the other day if Jerry would reach out for Campo. At the time I told myself, "nah, Jerry's learned. He knows better."

Then I see this.

Look, I acknowledge Campo's history as a position coach. Sure, he was around when we won three championships.

But he's not known for that. He is known for being the epitome of Jerry yes-men—a guy who went 5-11 three straight years as head coach. The guy who presided over a culture Parcells was brought in to erase.

What does it communicate to the players if Campo's brought back? Most of these guys were in middle school or grade school when Campo was sharing in the success of the 90s. But no doubt they're well aware of his most recent history in Dallas.

This would be a TERRIBLE move. Not necessarily because of Campo's ability to coach a secondary, but because of the message it sends. It's bad for Phillips and it's bad for the Cowboys.

Mark P.

So . . . . you acknowledge Campo's history as a position coach . . . . but you think it communicates badly to players who at the time were in grade school?

Campo would be a position coach if hired. A position coach with a lot of experience and success at being a position coach.

I'm sure if Wade was really against Campo, he would tell JJ. Not really sure why it's bad for Phillips or the Cowboys. Unless you think that Phillips doesn't have the balls to tell JJ if he's strongly against a particular hire, whether it is Campo or someone else.
 
Bob Sacamano;1928222 said:
it's tiring
that too. I get the feeling they almost wait for Dallas to fail so they can say "See! Told ya!"
 
I guess maybe I'm missing it...but how does his bad years as an HC (Which I think we all agree he was a terrible HC) translate into players not listening to him as a secondary coach?

By that logic there are lots of assistants (DC and OC's) now that players must NEVER listen to, around the league, since they failed as Headcoaches.
 
I have no problem with Dallas bringing back Campo for the job as long as he is the best guy available.

To me his success as a head coach is not relevant.
 
BraveHeartFan;1928226 said:
I guess maybe I'm missing it...but how does his bad years as an HC (Which I think we all agree he was a terrible HC) translate into players not listening to him as a secondary coach?

By that logic there are lots of assistants (DC and OC's) now that players must NEVER listen to, around the league, since they failed as Headcoaches.
Bizarro logic rules the day whenever Jerry makes a football decision, much to my chagrin.
 
BraveHeartFan;1928226 said:
I guess maybe I'm missing it...but how does his bad years as an HC (Which I think we all agree he was a terrible HC) translate into players not listening to him as a secondary coach?

By that logic there are lots of assistants (DC and OC's) now that players must NEVER listen to, around the league, since they failed as Headcoaches.

A prime example is G Williams to the Skins. Failed as a HC, but an excellent DC. I'm sure there are many, many examples.
 

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