Spoke to my insider today 2/25

[CowboyRoy]

Yes, I recall the 10-year horror show when Jones did everything to find a QB except spend a first-round pick on one. I expect him to spend a first-round pick on one when the time comes. I don't think that time has to be now.

As far as the defense goes, I do believe with some FA supplements it could be a first- and second-round pick from being great. I'd rather focus on that while we have Romo and focus on replacing Romo when we no longer have him. Rarely do teams use a first-round pick on a QB and let him sit for three years. (Rodgers is one of the few exceptions I can think of.) Most of the time coaches understand that they have to win now to keep their jobs and spending the No. 4 pick on a player who isn't going to help you win now might benefit the team while not benefiting that coach.

Garrett has no reason to support spending that first-round pick on a QB while the team believes Romo may have 3-5 years left. A lot can change in 3-5 years.

For me, its the opportunity. We have the 4th pick and can do it right here. We may not be here for a while. And what a great opportunity for the kid to sit and learn behind Romo. The perfect QB to learn behind. Makes total sense to me. Sacrificing long term for a somewhat unrealistic short term goal isnt the way I would do it.

Lets just say you take a DE and DT in the first to rounds. Are these two rookies going to take the NFL by storm this year? Probably not. Are they going to fix our pass rush problems? Not this year. Other than a young Jones, we basically have to replace the entire secondary. The linebackers we have now, other than Lee are nothing more than stop gap fillers. I just dont see it. And you know they are going to screw up the RB thing again. Way too many things in my opinion.

But you are probably right about Garrett. He needs results now and he is playing for a guy that thinks as short term as anyone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That would actually be my dream scenario. Wentz and then Henry. Throw in Doctson some how and I might faint! I know we need defense but this offense is awful!

I love it, but I dont like Henry. Although Im sure he would look good behind our Oline. Henry size wont help him in the NFL where guys are bigger than him.

 

[Longboysfan]

I guess if SF wanted Goff, I'd trade with them, that's likely a safe spot where PHI or STL won't move up for Lynch, but I really do not want to miss out on one of the top 3 QBs.

Kapernick said he wants out of SF.
So any trade down would lose a shot at the QB we want.
Unless SF trades in front of us into the 3rd slot.

 

[LittleD]

Hey guys, if you read the work of Dane Brugler, Broaddus or Dan Turner, you can readily see that the
3 current top QB's of this draft rank well below Bridgewater and others from last years draft. They know
they will be selected early but, they may all bust this year. We need players who can get on the field now
not 3 years from now. Just sayin!

 

[Aven8]

I love it, but I dont like Henry. Although Im sure he would look good behind our Oline. Henry size wont help him in the NFL where guys are bigger than him.

Yeah, but he is a truck. And once he's in the clear I don't remember anyone catching him. If we want the 2014 winning formula back of punishing teams go get him. He's the type of back where you feel like he hasn't done anything and then they show his stats and he's got 120 yards!

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Every single part of that post made me sick. I do appreciate you sharing though. Hopefully the insider is wrong

 

[iceberg]

Kapernick said he wants out of SF.
So any trade down would lose a shot at the QB we want.
Unless SF trades in front of us into the 3rd slot.

then again if we don't want a qb at 4, SF is a ripe trading partner and we don't fall too far back.

 

[BigStar]

Thanks for the information. However, if we pass on Wentz/Goff or even Lynch to take Cook in the second, there is no defending this front office (if those still exist).

This seconded while appreciating the insight of the OP.

 

[gimmesix]

For me, its the opportunity. We have the 4th pick and can do it right here. We may not be here for a while. And what a great opportunity for the kid to sit and learn behind Romo. The perfect QB to learn behind. Makes total sense to me. Sacrificing long term for a somewhat unrealistic short term goal isnt the way I would do it.

Lets just say you take a DE and DT in the first to rounds. Are these two rookies going to take the NFL by storm this year? Probably not. Are they going to fix our pass rush problems? Not this year. Other than a young Jones, we basically have to replace the entire secondary. The linebackers we have now, other than Lee are nothing more than stop gap fillers. I just dont see it. And you know they are going to screw up the RB thing again. Way too many things in my opinion.

But you are probably right about Garrett. He needs results now and he is playing for a guy that thinks as short term as anyone.

I don't necessarily agree with you that the rookies can't make a meaningful impact this year. There are plenty of rookie DL who have helped improve their teams immediately.

Add a DE and DT to Lawrence and Crawford and you've got a solid starting line. Dallas can add a MLB to play next to Lee (which will probably be McClain). Scandrick is a very capable corner and Jones is a starting safety, so we've just got to improve the other safety spot and corner spot and add a third corner. That's four positions outside of the draft where we need to look for upgrades (and I'll contend that the secondary play with Carr and Church starting would look a lot better with a better pass rush).

This is about what I think we can expect Dallas to do on defense, and I think it would have the potential to be top 10 with the moves:

RDE: Lawrence, Gregory

3-tech: Crawford, Irving

1-tech: Butler (R), Hayden (or Terrell McClain or Whaley or Walker)

LDE: Bosa (R), Mincey-like FA

WLB: Lee, Wilson

MLB: R. McClain, Hitchens

SLB: Hitchens, Gachkar

CB: Scandrick, Moore-like FA (possibly Clairborne)

CB: Carr, Terrance Mitchell

SS: Church, Wilcox

FS: Jones, Heath

The key, which it always is in this 3-4, would be that line's ability to disrupt the pocket and the WLB's ability to make plays

 

[SDCowboy]

Thanks. I assume if Goff is available at #4 as your insider suggests then we should have good opportunities to trade down with SF, STL, PHI, BUF, or HOU which would be ideal for us

Or we could do the smart thing and draft him ourselves.

 

[dcboy]

Hey guys, if you read the work of Dane Brugler, Broaddus or Dan Turner, you can readily see that the
3 current top QB's of this draft rank well below Bridgewater and others from last years draft. They know
they will be selected early but, they may all bust this year. We need players who can get on the field now
not 3 years from now. Just sayin!

i disagree with that big time. i think wentz goff and lynch are better prospects than the guys that have come out in the past couple of years except luck. i think that's where the disagreement is. some of us think wentz and goff are better prospects than winston and mariotta, others see ponder in these guys. i dont want a guy like ponder in the first or any round, but i also dont want to pass on rothlesburger either.

 

[LittleD]

i disagree with that big time. i think wentz goff and lynch are better prospects than the guys that have come out in the past couple of years except luck. i think that's where the disagreement is. some of us think wentz and goff are better prospects than winston and mariotta, others see ponder in these guys. i dont want a guy like ponder in the first or any round, but i also dont want to pass on rothlesburger either.

That's okay...Opinions vary. Those guys have access to and study more tape than I could ever invest the time in. Their job field is to
investigate and educate and I think they pretty much have those skills to be successful. The best idea I've heard is with a high pick ours
being #4 you take the least risk highest rated player on the board. Seems fair to me.

 

[gimmesix]

i disagree with that big time. i think wentz goff and lynch are better prospects than the guys that have come out in the past couple of years except luck. i think that's where the disagreement is. some of us think wentz and goff are better prospects than winston and mariotta, others see ponder in these guys. i dont want a guy like ponder in the first or any round, but i also dont want to pass on rothlesburger either.

That's definitely the hard part. We just don't know if these guys are going to pan out. That's why I can't get on the QB-or-else bandwagon. If Dallas has one rated near the top of its board and decides to go that way, I'm OK with that, but if they have these guys a tier or two down from other players, I'd much rather they go with the other players.

Now, at the moment, I'm more for taking a defensive player than a QB at No. 4, but if Dallas sees one of these QBs as a No. 1 pick-type talent, then I can't blame them if they don't pass on that.

 

[Shinaoi]

I don't have a problem with Bosa, but I would hope he turns out top end. Because if we do take Bosa, we would have a 4th over all in him, a 2nd for Gregory, and a 2nd plus a pick to move up for Lawerance. That is a lot of clout on a defensive end, which is a position that is worth it. But if Bosa doesn't turn out to be a huge play maker and you have to go back to the position with another pick. Ouch.

 

[Doc50]

Thanks. I'm hoping Cleveland goes for Goff.

That's still possible.
He comes from a more competitive conference, and may be the wiser choice.
Cleveland absolutely cannot afford to pick another disappointing QB, and they may therefore be reluctant to take the small school guy (who may actually be the better choice).

 

[CashMan]

That's still possible.
He comes from a more competitive conference, and may be the wiser choice.
Cleveland absolutely cannot afford to pick another disappointing QB, and they may therefore be reluctant to take the small school guy (who may actually be the better choice).

I would bet, that because they do not think there is a "Franchise" QB there, they would take a DE. Just my $.02.

 

[Doc50]

I love it, but I dont like Henry. Although Im sure he would look good behind our Oline. Henry size wont help him in the NFL where guys are bigger than him.

3 older guys come to mind -- Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, and John Riggins.

There is a viable theory in choosing this kind of back, and that is they can't be tackled by a DB without inflicting some pain, are not likely to go down without churning for an extra 3-5 yards, and are stout enough to survive the pounding and be relatively less injury prone.

Could be a bellcow......or maybe just a cow.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

But if we draft Goff at 4 and Romo goes down, somehow Goff will lead us to the playoffs? A QB at 4 means no more to us this coming season than a QB in round 5.

Then don't draft any qb. This year or next. Or any time we have Romo under contract.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yeah, but he is a truck. And once he's in the clear I don't remember anyone catching him. If we want the 2014 winning formula back of punishing teams go get him. He's the type of back where you feel like he hasn't done anything and then they show his stats and he's got 120 yards!

All that guy did was run through monster holes and run over people bigger than him in college. He is Murray without the speed or quickness. I would like to see us get a shiftier back with quickness, vision and speed. A guy that can make plays and take it to the house when he gets to the second level. I love smash mouth, but I am not sure this guy is anything more than a big back that played on the biggest, best team in college.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't necessarily agree with you that the rookies can't make a meaningful impact this year. There are plenty of rookie DL who have helped improve their teams immediately.

Add a DE and DT to Lawrence and Crawford and you've got a solid starting line. Dallas can add a MLB to play next to Lee (which will probably be McClain). Scandrick is a very capable corner and Jones is a starting safety, so we've just got to improve the other safety spot and corner spot and add a third corner. That's four positions outside of the draft where we need to look for upgrades (and I'll contend that the secondary play with Carr and Church starting would look a lot better with a better pass rush).

This is about what I think we can expect Dallas to do on defense, and I think it would have the potential to be top 10 with the moves:

RDE: Lawrence, Gregory

3-tech: Crawford, Irving

1-tech: Butler (R), Hayden (or Terrell McClain or Whaley or Walker)

LDE: Bosa (R), Mincey-like FA

WLB: Lee, Wilson

MLB: R. McClain, Hitchens

SLB: Hitchens, Gachkar

CB: Scandrick, Moore-like FA (possibly Clairborne)

CB: Carr, Terrance Mitchell

SS: Church, Wilcox

FS: Jones, Heath

The key, which it always is in this 3-4, would be that line's ability to disrupt the pocket and the WLB's ability to make plays

Even Demarcus Ware didnt get going until his second year. They can make an impact, but they arent going to dominate. Not likely. And that defense you laid out is nothing special. Average at best if it all stays healthy. Weak secondary and very weak pass rush.