Spoke to my insider today 2/25

[Kolemmitt]

was a really quick convo because I was in a rush and he looked pretty busy too.

First he told me "I told you so" because he was telling me mid season the coaches and several players really didn't like Hardy and he swore Hardy would be gone after the season. He really doesn't like Hardy so he was happy about that situation.

Then I asked him about the draft and he said they still like Wentz a lot but he will most likely be picked by Cleveland. Said that they really like Bosa. I asked about Spence and he told me he's not an option. But that they REALLY like Bosa. He was very emphatic about that.

He also told me that Lynch would be an option in a trade back or if he slipped to 2 (that's pretty obvious). But he also said we like Connor Cook in the 2nd which surprised me. They're comfortable waiting on QB because they believe in Romo.

Outside of those guys he said we like Elliott RB but not enough to spend a 1st on him, but said we will absolutely use a 2nd on Derrick Henry if he's available. This surprised me because I didn't think we'd value him that high.

I wanted to talk more but I had to go. Not sure when I'll see him again but I'll post about it if I do.

I think getting Lynch in a trade back would be ideal. We would still get our QB of the future, while adding picks in a deep draft.

I am not a big fan of Bosa. I can see him being a good NFL player, but just a #4 pick NFL player. He just does not seem like a Marinelli guy to me at all. I still think RDE is where we open the pocket books in FA.

 

[JoeKing]

If a QB doesn't give you the best chance at winning then they are a bad deal no matter what round you get him, Connor Cook is such a QB. Let's not waste resources on that progress stopper including time talking about him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

was a really quick convo because I was in a rush and he looked pretty busy too.

First he told me "I told you so" because he was telling me mid season the coaches and several players really didn't like Hardy and he swore Hardy would be gone after the season. He really doesn't like Hardy so he was happy about that situation.

Then I asked him about the draft and he said they still like Wentz a lot but he will most likely be picked by Cleveland. Said that they really like Bosa. I asked about Spence and he told me he's not an option. But that they REALLY like Bosa. He was very emphatic about that.

He also told me that Lynch would be an option in a trade back or if he slipped to 2 (that's pretty obvious). But he also said we like Connor Cook in the 2nd which surprised me. They're comfortable waiting on QB because they believe in Romo.

Outside of those guys he said we like Elliott RB but not enough to spend a 1st on him, but said we will absolutely use a 2nd on Derrick Henry if he's available. This surprised me because I didn't think we'd value him that high.

I wanted to talk more but I had to go. Not sure when I'll see him again but I'll post about it if I do.

None of that surprises me. Everything I dont want them to do they are going to wind up doing.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think getting Lynch in a trade back would be ideal. We would still get our QB of the future, while adding picks in a deep draft.

I am not a big fan of Bosa. I can see him being a good NFL player, but just a #4 pick NFL player. He just does not seem like a Marinelli guy to me at all. I still think RDE is where we open the pocket books in FA.

How can a guy that only got 6 sacks last year be the top pass rusher? Is that stat correct?

 

[CowboyRoy]

And when Romo goes down again for the season, we can celebrate another 4-12 outting.

LOL..........you nailed it. These guys that think we can fill in all 12 holes in one year and Romo will play for 16 games are living a pipe dream. Take the QB and secure the future of your team for the next decade. I think Jerry Jones is the ONLY guy in the NFL that wouldnt be licking his chops at the gift of having this opportunity to get a QB here.

 

[DBOY3141]

How can a guy that only got 6 sacks last year be the top pass rusher? Is that stat correct?

Probably the same way the top DB in this draft, had 0 interceptions last year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Then we can draft a QB because Romo will be done at that point. I don't see a rookie QB saving our season if we don't improve the team around him, specifically the defense.

Its not about saving our season, its about securing the next decade going forward. If you are so gung ho on Romo, then you should be excited about getting the next Romo. Dont you recall the 10 year horror show between Troy and Romo?

Although you may have a good point that we may be 4-12 next year anyway. This defense is not a first and second round pick away from being great. Not even close.

 

[RS12]

How can a guy that only got 6 sacks last year be the top pass rusher? Is that stat correct?

I dont even think he'll be as good as Spencer.

 

[dcboy]

thanks for the info. i dont want bosa at 4 or cook anywhere. i would absolutely hate a draft with bosa in the first and cook in the second. and it seems possible. ugggh

 

[CowboyRoy]

Probably the same way the top DB in this draft, had 0 interceptions last year.

Are those stats impressive to you? If you read up on Bosa the knock him is that he is NOT a great pass rusher. So is that guy going to solve your pass rush problems?

Do you want a ball hawking DB that isnt a ball hawk? This draft is looking worse and worse every day.

 

[DBOY3141]

Are those stats impressive to you? If you read up on Bosa the knock him is that he is NOT a great pass rusher. So is that guy going to solve your pass rush problems?

Do you want a ball hawking DB that is a ball hawk? This draft is looking worse and worse every day.

I'm not advocating either player. I'm not a scout, but I'm guessing they look at the whole body of work. can he be disruptive, provide pressure, stop the run, what scheme did he play in, how did they use him...etc. If it were just sacks, the kid from BYU would be a top 10 pick. I think he has like 29 the last two years.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I dont even think he'll be as good as Spencer.

The best player is a Tackle, which we dont need. The next guy is a DE that is weak at pass rushing. Then you have the safety that isnt really a ball hawk and it appears we spent a first round pick on a safety last year. The 4th pick is screaming QB, but we all know that Jones wont do that. I see these guys trading back. For me, if your not going to take a QB, then trade back and get another 2nd round pick.

 

[DBOY3141]

thanks for the info. i dont want bosa at 4 or cook anywhere. i would absolutely hate a draft with bosa in the first and cook in the second. and it seems possible. ugggh

who knows who they really like, but if the players mentioned are in fact true. it would probably be 1st Bosa, 2nd Henry, 3rd Cook.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not advocating either player. I'm not a scout, but I'm guessing they look at the whole body of work. can he be disruptive, provide pressure, stop the run, what scheme did he play in, how did they use him...etc. If it were just sacks, the kid from BYU would be a top 10 pick. I think he has like 29 the last two years.

Yah, I agree with you. But you like to hope the best DE in the draft is a sack master. It appears this kid is not. Stop the run all you like but when it comes to third down, you want those guys that get to the QB.

 

[Aven8]

I really want to go after Wentz. Cleveland's mismanged tire fire of an organization is most likely going to screw that up. I wish that weren't the case.

Bosa does not excite me at all and my tag line is all about restoring the trenches. There is something that bothers me about that guy, haven't put my thumb on it yet.

One scenario I was thinking about...a what if...what if we drafted Wentz or Goff and then took an RB in the 2nd (Henry or the kid La Tech). If Romo goes down, you have a rookie QB learning on the job supported by a possible power running game in Henry. If Romo stays healthy you have that power running game supporting the system again like when Murray was there. Yes, yes you're hanging the D out to dry but maybe that's where we use the free agency money this year.

Just another scenario to play with as we wait out the down time.

That would actually be my dream scenario. Wentz and then Henry. Throw in Doctson some how and I might faint! I know we need defense but this offense is awful!

 

[gimmesix]

Its not about saving our season, its about securing the next decade going forward. If you are so gung ho on Romo, then you should be excited about getting the next Romo. Dont you recall the 10 year horror show between Troy and Romo?

Although you may have a good point that we may be 4-12 next year anyway. This defense is not a first and second round pick away from being great. Not even close.

Yes, I recall the 10-year horror show when Jones did everything to find a QB except spend a first-round pick on one. I expect him to spend a first-round pick on one when the time comes. I don't think that time has to be now.

As far as the defense goes, I do believe with some FA supplements it could be a first- and second-round pick from being great. I'd rather focus on that while we have Romo and focus on replacing Romo when we no longer have him. Rarely do teams use a first-round pick on a QB and let him sit for three years. (Rodgers is one of the few exceptions I can think of.) Most of the time coaches understand that they have to win now to keep their jobs and spending the No. 4 pick on a player who isn't going to help you win now might benefit the team while not benefiting that coach.

Garrett has no reason to support spending that first-round pick on a QB while the team believes Romo may have 3-5 years left. A lot can change in 3-5 years.

 

[DBOY3141]

Yah, I agree with you. But you like to hope the best DE in the draft is a sack master. It appears this kid is not. Stop the run all you like but when it comes to third down, you want those guys that get to the QB.

true. did a quick little search of the top 10 DE's in the draft over the last few years and the sacks they had in their last year of college.

Clowney - 3
Von Miller - 10.5
JJ Watt - 7
Dion Jordan - 5
Ansah - 4.5

some have moved to OLB's, but it was interesting to look at. I think Clowney shut it down his last year to protect himself.

 

[Chuck 54]

And when Romo goes down again for the season, we can celebrate another 4-12 outting.

But if we draft Goff at 4 and Romo goes down, somehow Goff will lead us to the playoffs? A QB at 4 means no more to us this coming season than a QB in round 5.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think getting Lynch in a trade back would be ideal. We would still get our QB of the future, while adding picks in a deep draft.

I am not a big fan of Bosa. I can see him being a good NFL player, but just a #4 pick NFL player. He just does not seem like a Marinelli guy to me at all. I still think RDE is where we open the pocket books in FA.

Vernon is the only DE worth opening up the pocket book for in free agency. He is only 25 and legit. Kind of makes you wonder, though, how a guy this good lasts until the 3rd round. Can there be another Vernon waiting for the Cowboys in the 3rd round of this draft?

 

[Chuck 54]

I could get onboard with Bosa at 4, Henry or Lynch at 34, DT/CB in rounds 3-4.