Star Mag: Tony Romo - The Numbers Don't Lie

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Hostile;3030162 said:
No it isn't. I can prove to you that we have faded down the stretch dating back to 1997. Why is that ignored? Why focus on 1 QB?

It's entirely about those 2 losses, or people just don't know enough. I'm trying to give benefit of the doubt.


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McCordsville Cowboy;3030174 said:
So we should fire Jerry?

I think it's the conditioning coach myself. It's the only connection I can find between all those teams that would actually have an effect like that as the year goes on.
 

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theebs;3029928 said:
Yes you and your friend must be right.

Having a wet ball go through your hands while holding for a fg in slight rain is definitely a "mental mistake"

by the way do you have a source or a link to what your friend said, around here all opinions must have links and/or sources attached.

Not to mention that the play led to change in the way footballs used for kicking are handled. It's funny that the league basically admits that a slick ball was snapped to Romo, but so many use that play as a holder as evidence that the quarterback is a choker.

It's a rather silly argument.
 

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Ozzu;3030191 said:
I think it's the conditioning coach myself. It's the only connection I can find between all those teams that would actually have an effect like that as the year goes on.
Rowdy became the mascot. The Gods did not like Rowdy. We've paid for their disfavor.
 

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I respect your opinion and you have a few good points. Im simply saying there is no way that Tony deserves the razzing he gets with those fine statistics in the infancy of his career. You can't fault him for being 30. He can't put himself as the starting QB. And not taking anything away from Favre's reputation, you have to admit he makes a tremendous amount of mistakes, but somehow finds his way out of them due to a big play from his defense. If Favre was on the Cowboys, and made those mistakes, he would be torched.

When it all boils down, I think Cowboys fans in general are just fed up with our descent from grace. Many of the younger fans have never experienced what it's like to win the big one with the Boys. And I completely understand and empathize with them. It's been a long, long time. Much too long.

I'm just showing my appreciation for this post because of what it says about Tony Romo. As it clearly shows, he's tottering around with the greats of the game at this point in his career. Whether he continues to elevate his game, stay the same or diminish remains to be seen. But for all the Romo bashing that goes on in here, I think this goes a long way in showing his capabilities and worth to this team. I truly think it has more to do with the frustrations of losing these past several years than it does about Tony. Tony just happens to be the face of the franchise so he's going to take the brundt of the blame.

It's a common mistake.
 

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Hostile;3030162 said:
No it isn't. I can prove to you that we have faded down the stretch dating back to 1997. Why is that ignored? Why focus on 1 QB?

It's entirely about those 2 losses, or people just don't know enough. I'm trying to give benefit of the doubt.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2912809&postcount=38

Post from a Tony vs Eli thread from a month or so ago. Tony Romo's numbers for every year in the month of December, and playoff games. It's not pretty.

DIAF;2912809 said:
Numbers don't lie.

BY MONTH CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD

December(08) 84 150 889 56.0 5.93 50 5 6 12.0 67.9 9 26 2.9 9 0

December(07) 83 138 859 60.1 6.23 53 3 5 8.0 70.3 9 43 4.8 16 0

December(06) 95 157 1247 60.5 7.94 56 6 8 13.0 77.1 15 68 4.5 16 0

Playoffs 07 18 36 201 50.0 5.58 20 1 1 2.0 64.7 3 17 5.7 11 0

Playoffs 06 17 29 189 58.6 6.52 32 1 0 2.0 89.6 1 0 0.0 0 0

In December action, plus the 07 and 06 playoffs, Tony Romo has thrown 16 TD passes, 20 INTs, and has a QB rating hovering in the low 70s. You know who those numbers sound like? Quincy Carter.

Obviously, Romo is better than Quincy Carter, but that's the level of play we have gotten from our QB in the most important part of the season for 3 straight years now. That is a total FAIL. We have zero playoff wins and one epic collapse to miss the playoffs in that time frame. I'm glad you feel good about that, because I don't.
 

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Hostile;3030242 said:
Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.

1997 through 2009. December or post Thanksgiving fades. You can pin 3 seasons on him. Explain how the rest are his fault.

You can't. Fact.

Nice Strawman. I didn't say Tony Romo had anything to do with 1997 through 2005. This thread is about Tony Romo, not anything that happened before he got here. Fact: the discontent with Romo has way more to do with just two playoff losses. I said it had to do with 3 years of late-season failure, and there are the numbers that prove it.
 

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Hostile;3030242 said:
Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.

1997 through 2009. December or post Thanksgiving fades. You can pin 3 seasons on him. Explain how the rest are his fault.

You can't. Fact.

As I'm sure you know, DIAF goes to extremes to make sure we all understand his disdain for Tony Romo. Tony could cure the H1M1 virus, end world hunger, solve all our problems in the Middle East, and win the Super Bowl this year, and he would hardly get a nod from DIAF.
 

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USMarineVet;3030258 said:
As I'm sure you know, DIAF goes to extremes to make sure we all understand his disdain for Tony Romo. Tony could cure the H1M1 virus, end world hunger, solve all our problems in the Middle East, and win the Super Bowl this year, and he would hardly get a nod from DIAF.

Numbers. They are right there. Refute them. Go on. You can't.
 

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DIAF;3030262 said:
Numbers. They are right there. Refute them. Go on. You can't.

The numbers I'm looking at are in the original post. They are right there. Refute them. Go on. You can't.
 

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DIAF;3030262 said:
Numbers. They are right there. Refute them. Go on. You can't.

It'd be one thing if it were just Romo, but it's been a problem for the last couple of QBs before Romo as well. Our team as a whole, for over 10 years now, does not play well late in the year. Period.
 

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DIAF;3030256 said:
Nice Strawman. I didn't say Tony Romo had anything to do with 1997 through 2005. This thread is about Tony Romo, not anything that happened before he got here. Fact: the discontent with Romo has way more to do with just two playoff losses. I said it had to do with 3 years of late-season failure, and there are the numbers that prove it.
No, you responded to me and my post where I said people are overly butt hurt by 2 playoff losses. There's too much piled on Romo by bitter fans. It's stupid.
 

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USMarineVet;3030258 said:
As I'm sure you know, DIAF goes to extremes to make sure we all understand his disdain for Tony Romo. Tony could cure the H1M1 virus, end world hunger, solve all our problems in the Middle East, and win the Super Bowl this year, and he would hardly get a nod from DIAF.
Actually I don't. I pay very little attention to his posts usually. But he responded to me, so I chimed in.
 

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Ozzu;3030269 said:
It'd be one thing if it were just Romo, but it's been a problem for the last couple of QBs before Romo as well. Our team as a whole, for over 10 years now, does not play well late in the year. Period.


All this is true, but I do happen to think they still played well in december of 07. We were 2-1 that month going into washington with a number of injuries and it was cold and pouring rain. That game meant nothing and with the weather ending up the way it did the team just didnt care that day.

They won the games they had to that month, beating detroit and carolina and they just didnt play well against philly that day collectively.

Not that I dont expect the romo sucks crowd to respond, I am just saying, the december of 07 was not as bad as the rest of them.

and its always fun reading in other teams newspapers how the cowboys havent won a playoff game in 12 years and they then show their playoff record over that time. I saw that from a blogger in the AJC today in the comments section.

The only thing I could do is laugh, why not go back 20 years and re-tally. None of that has anything to do with this sunday.
 

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Hostile;3030273 said:
Actually I don't. I pay very little attention to his posts usually. But he responded to me, so I chimed in.

waaaaaah.
 
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