Stephen Jones.."our phones have been ringing more than ever"

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Out of all the positions of need to me QB isn't one of them. We need recievers and more pass rushers.
 

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Aven8;2209920 said:
Out of all the positions of need to me QB isn't one of them. We need recievers and more pass rushers.

This is where we need Coach Parcells back again to remind everyone that you can't just dial one up.
 

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For all the people wanting wr, who are you going to bump on gameday to get them active? 4 Wr will be active on gameday so who are you bumping from the active roster? Hurd? AUstin? And it seems we will only carry 5 wr to me because from what I heard jerry say the other day he likes the idea of 4 tight ends.

it is going to be a fun week. Lot of difficult and interesing scenarios and situations when putting this roster together this week.
 

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We don't need a WR. What is the obsession with that position?

What we need is a backup OL and ILB.
 

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DallasEast;2209830 said:
Seriously.

I know we've had some new guys try out in special teams packages. Guys who may not have played on special teams in college or even high school, but give me a break. Some of these guys haven't been disciplined enough to stick to their lanes on coverage. A portion of the blame can be put on Coach Read (even though he wants to point fingers at his kicker), but most of the blame should be assumed by guys who are trying to make the roster and are doing a poor job of it.

Myself being, what some may consider a coach, I try not to blame coaches......but I must admit Reads coaching has to be considered somewhat suspect.

Having said that.....as you said, I do not see anyone that supposedly would like to play in the NFL, busting his butt on ST's.....one exception...Choice.

If these bubble players fail to step up and show some interest in playing ST's ..... cut and replace them.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2209932 said:
We don't need a WR. What is the obsession with that position?

What we need is a backup OL and ILB.


I agree. I have to imagine they are going to look long and hard at all the interior lineman that get cut or are being dangled in a trade.

It would be nice to end the week with chris simms, a new lineman and another inside linebacker.

I am not sure who is heavy at linebacker though, I know san diego always has an abundance of talent and I know philly keeps saying they have too much at linebacker.

going to be a fun week.
 

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theebs;2209940 said:
I agree. I have to imagine they are going to look long and hard at all the interior lineman that get cut or are being dangled in a trade.

It would be nice to end the week with chris simms, a new lineman and another inside linebacker.

I am not sure who is heavy at linebacker though, I know san diego always has an abundance of talent and I know philly keeps saying they have too much at linebacker.

going to be a fun week.

Usually...9 time out of 10.....backup LB's make excellent ST players.;):)
 

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Cbz40;2209943 said:
Usually...9 time out of 10.....backup LB's make excellent ST players.;):)

they absolutely should. Linebackers and tight ends. That is why I am always in favor of drafting them every year!
 

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Not trying to ruin anyone's dreams, but I think I recall something similar last year and the year before about our depth and the phone potentially ringing off the hook with trade offers and nothing materialized.

I would equate this to Stephen drumming up interest. Everyone realizes we have very little wiggle room on this roster to begin with and we have even less now injuries are beginning to become a problem. There would be little reason to trade for players that it is known will have to be cut.

I would be very surprised to see a significant trade that makes an impact. We might see a few swaps that amount to what would be orchestrated waiver wire moves where a team gives up a "conditional" choice (which really is a disguised 'future consideration') in exchange for some bench rider.
 

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Alexander;2209948 said:
Not trying to ruin anyone's dreams, but I think I recall something similar last year and the year before about our depth and the phone potentially ringing off the hook with trade offers and nothing materialized.

I would equate this to Stephen drumming up interest. Everyone realizes we have very little wiggle room on this roster to begin with and we have even less now injuries are beginning to become a problem. There would be little reason to trade for players that it is known will have to be cut.

I would be very surprised to see a significant trade that makes an impact. We might see a few swaps that amount to what would be orchestrated waiver wire moves where a team gives up a "conditional" choice (which really is a disguised 'future consideration') in exchange for some bench rider.

well yeah. I dont think anyone expects starters to be traded for. Right now we need end of the roster players at a few positions.
 

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Alexander;2209948 said:
Not trying to ruin anyone's dreams, but I think I recall something similar last year and the year before about our depth and the phone potentially ringing off the hook with trade offers and nothing materialized.

I would equate this to Stephen drumming up interest. Everyone realizes we have very little wiggle room on this roster to begin with and we have even less now injuries are beginning to become a problem. There would be little reason to trade for players that it is known will have to be cut.

I would be very surprised to see a significant trade that makes an impact. We might see a few swaps that amount to what would be orchestrated waiver wire moves where a team gives up a "conditional" choice (which really is a disguised 'future consideration') in exchange for some bench rider.

It never fails.....There always has to be one dream wrecker in the bunch.

LOL....I haven't had that type of dream in years.

One can only hope Stephen isn't BSing us this time.
 

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How exciting! A third string QB!!! Whooo Hooooo!

At least trade for something that can help some where on the field....not a deactivated clipboard carrier that will never get one snap in practice!
 

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Aven8;2209957 said:
How exciting! A third string QB!!! Whooo Hooooo!

At least trade for something that can help some where on the field....not a deactivated clipboard carrier that will never get one snap in practice!

Anyone you acquire to fill a backup role on this team has the potential to be an inactive on gameday.

You don't just trade for "help some where on the field". You trade to plan for upcoming years as well. We will need a young QB very soon. Acquiring one now would eliminate that need for the free agency and draft next year.
 

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Alexander;2209948 said:
Not trying to ruin anyone's dreams, but I think I recall something similar last year and the year before about our depth and the phone potentially ringing off the hook with trade offers and nothing materialized.

I would equate this to Stephen drumming up interest. Everyone realizes we have very little wiggle room on this roster to begin with and we have even less now injuries are beginning to become a problem. There would be little reason to trade for players that it is known will have to be cut.
I agree with that. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and Stephen's dad is only one of the biggest BS kings of all time.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2209932 said:
We don't need a WR. What is the obsession with that position?

What we need is a backup OL and ILB.

I agree with that 100%
 

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Curtis could be dealt to Parcells and we wouldnt really miss him

Considering how badly he's PWNED us in every trade so far, maybe we need to stop trading with Parcells and Ireland.

So now we have a need at ILB? Can someone explain to me why we gave away Akin Ayodele for nothing? What a phenomenally stupid trade that was.
 

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InmanRoshi;2210024 said:
Considering how badly he's PWNED us in every trade so far, maybe we need to stop trading with Parcells and Ireland.

So now we have a need at ILB? Can someone explain to me why we gave away Akin Ayodele for nothing? What a phenomenally stupid trade that was.


Dude I love parcells. probably even more than you do.

but we really couldnt keep ayodele. He wasnt going to be happy being a backup and he wouldnt play on third downs. He only had trade value this year, and his value was debatable after that horriffic trade. I will never understand trading fasano and ferguson.

I do understand trading ayodele though. Before the injuries he would just be occupying a roster spot. He was never going to beat out thomas or james.

The ayodele trade is pretty obvious to me.
 

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theebs;2210039 said:
Dude I love parcells. probably even more than you do.

but we really couldnt keep ayodele. He wasnt going to be happy being a backup and he wouldnt play on third downs. He only had trade value this year, and his value was debatable after that horriffic trade. I will never understand trading fasano and ferguson.

I do understand trading ayodele though. Before the injuries he would just be occupying a roster spot. He was never going to beat out thomas or james.

The ayodele trade is pretty obvious to me.

When you say "He wasn't going to accept a back up role" you act like he had any choice in the matter. He was under contract. He had two options .. play for the Cowboys or find a new career. Do they worry about Spears "not accepting a backup job' when they experiment with moving Ratliff over to defensive end? Why would Akin be any different.

Even if you're right, the Cowboys 'threw in" a starting middle linebacker for nothing in April. They could have gone into training camp with at least giving mouth service to an open competition and see what shaked out on the injury front. It's not like injuries to Zach Thomas or Kevin Burnett would come out of the blue. If at the end of training camp it's determined he's not needed, give him away then. Or better yet, wait and see if a team doesn't break camp desperate for LB's after preseason injuries and actually try to get something. Not only did the Cowboys sell low on an asset, they just gave it away.
 

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InmanRoshi;2210054 said:
When you say "He wasn't going to accept a back up role" you act like he had any choice in the matter. He was under contract. He had two options .. play for the Cowboys or not play for the Cowboys.

Even if you're right, the Cowboys 'threw in" a starting middle linebacker for nothing in April. They could have gone into training camp with at least giving mouth service to an open competition and see what shaked out on the injury front. It's not like injuries to Zach Thomas or Kevin Burnett would come out of the blue. If at the end of training camp it's determined he's not needed, give him away then. Or better yet, wait and see if a team doesn't break camp desperate for LB's after preseason injuries and actually try to get something. Not only did the Cowboys sell low on an asset, they just gave it away.

That makes perfect sense to me. I just think Jerry was basically doing ayodele a favor. He had no role here and he sent him somewhere he would play. I know that sounds naive and stupid, I just think the staff thought nothing of the guy and just gave him away.

As far as spears go, he does have a role. He may not end up being a starter (I think he will now) but he has a huge role on this team. He is going to play a ton of snaps. Ayodele was not going to do that.
 
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