Twitter: Stephen Jones says Big Mac and K. Moore Didn’t Agree “Philosophically”

[gimmesix]

How so?

It's is spelled it's. Thought you'd get that one.

 

[ConstantReboot]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

Because Jerry forced Kellen onto McCarthy. MM had no choice but to try and work with him.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Funny, all these folks criticizing Jerry Jones for keeping Kellen Moore around..hmm. Cherry picking to blame Jerry as usual.

Why aren’t we blaming McCarthy? He could have taking over the offense at any time.

Of course Jerry wanted KM, many in the NFL wanted KM, hence the multiple interviews the past few years. And how long did he last when he was released? He didn’t last 24hrs before he was handed another OC job!

So, No. I can’t blame Jerry for wanting to keep a young OC around that lead his team to several top 5 NFL offenses. It would be stupid to not want him around.

The real problem wasn’t the OC.. it was the execution on the field. But many have already pointed out that elephant in the room.

That said, Do we really want McCarthy to hire his own Coordinators? Most seemed to have forgot “his” original DC, Mike Nolan

Yeah, that Dan Quinn guy.. that was Jerry’s doing. But go ahead and play the blame game, carry on.

Yes people blame Jerry for many things and rightfully so. The playcalling was a major factor in why we lost. Kellen was the playcaller. And with a predictable offense that can't get receivers open, it has lead to INTs. Sure we all want to blame the players. But they were given the playbook and they executed it. Your blaming the players and giving credit for Moore for having a top rated offense doesn't makes sense. The players were the ones that executed the plays didn't they?

So the main person to blame isn't the players, or even Kellen. It's Jerry. Kellen was forced onto McCarthy and he didn't have any choice. Why blame him for this debacle?

 

[Pass2Run]

Well, we'll see how the offense goes next year. They better do their homework on that running back situation because it could get ugly real quick.

 

[CWR]

Somewhere Jason Garrett is laughing his asz off.

I don't see how that loser can laugh at any coach. Although, ownership is another beast all together.

 

[noshame]

What a croc I'll give Mike 4 to 5 games before hes fired you can take that to the bank.

 

[Brax]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

Maybe MM just needed another scapegoat, 3 years in as a HC and he admits he doesn’t know the terminology of the O. SJ makes it sound like KM went rogue, I find it hard to believe KM wouldn’t do what MM wanted, or MM couldn’t call the plays he wanted in certain situations

 

[nightrain]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

It's really an embarrassment to see such dysfunction in an organization yet also inspiring to know, truly, that anyone can become a billionaire.

 

[Joe Realist]

Cowboys finish 16th in offense in 2023.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I really hope MM philosophy involves much less Zeke and Dak.

 

[tyke1doe]

“That's why we'll be more mindful when we choose the next OC for Big Mike."

/sarcasm

And we wonder why this franchise can't take the next step.

 

[USArmyVet]

BH, it's crystal clear what happened when Mike McCarthy was brought in. Jerry and Stephen wanted to keep their new project, Kellen Moore, so they forced Mike McCarthy to do things Kellen's way offensively the past 3 years. That project put up glitzy numbers, stats and even made it to 2 playoffs, but it wasn't good enough to help this team advance far enough to at least taste a conference championship game that has been missed for 27 seasons now.

So let me see if I understand this correctly: Kellen Moore helped the Dallas offense into the Top 5 offense in 3 of his 4 years (2020 being the exception) yet he was the problem? In no way was it Dak's issue playing poorly in back-to-back playoffs against SF????

Funny how the way you describe Moore's failure can easily be applied to Dak as well:

That project put up glitzy numbers, stats and even made it to 2 playoffs, but it wasn't good enough to help this team advance far enough to at least taste a conference championship game that has been missed for 27 seasons now.

 

[kevm3]

Then today Jerry is quoted as saying Dan Quinn will be like a “co-head coach”. Dysfunction Junction.

And people want to blame everything other than the FO. No successful team operates like this

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Plenty of head coaches and coordinators dont mesh well

its not just a "omg dallas isnt functional thing"

coworkers see things differently

"coworkers"? What? Those two are not simply "co-workers".

 

[fredp22]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

just proves KM was Garrett 2.0. Jerry is hell bent on trying to prove he can make a coach.

It also bothers me tho that this is 2nd time MM has done this. He had problems with Rodgers in GB and KM here. Hes just proving he cant work with people. Good coaches (say Reid) works to a players/persons strength. MM will make it his way or no way.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well, we'll see how the offense goes next year. They better do their homework on that running back situation because it could get ugly real quick.

How about fixing the o-line first? When was the last time you saw a o-lineman running up the field looking for someone to pancake?

How about we fix that so the next rb doesn't have to showcase his speed to the edge....instead of churning yard UP the field.

 

[USArmyVet]

Cowboys finish 16th in offense in 2023.

Based on what criteria?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

just proves KM was Garrett 2.0. Jerry is hell bent on trying to prove he can make a coach.

It also bothers me tho that this is 2nd time MM has done this. He had problems with Rodgers in GB and KM here. Hes just proving he cant work with people. Good coaches (say Reid) works to a players/persons strength. MM will make it his way or no way.

So you think he should get along with the teachers pet who was a failed QB and a one year QB coach as his resume?

And that Rodgers...such an easy to get along with fellow I'm sure.

 

[kevm3]

Funny, all these folks criticizing Jerry Jones for keeping Kellen Moore around..hmm. Cherry picking to blame Jerry as usual.

Why aren’t we blaming McCarthy? He could have taking over the offense at any time.

Of course Jerry wanted KM, many in the NFL wanted KM, hence the multiple interviews the past few years. And how long did he last when he was released? He didn’t last 24hrs before he was handed another OC job!

So, No. I can’t blame Jerry for wanting to keep a young OC around that lead his team to several top 5 NFL offenses. It would be stupid to not want him around.

The real problem wasn’t the OC.. it was the execution on the field. But many have already pointed out that elephant in the room.

That said, Do we really want McCarthy to hire his own Coordinators? Most seemed to have forgot “his” original DC, Mike Nolan

Yeah, that Dan Quinn guy.. that was Jerry’s doing. But go ahead and play the blame game, carry on.

If it was merely 'execution on the field' we wouldn't have had one of the worst offenses in the league when Dak went out with that ankle injury. Rush would have been averaging more than 20 a game. Kellen Moore is a solid OC, but he has no experience in high pressure situations which is why when going against high quality defenses in the playoffs, our offense completely disappears.

Dak was to blame for San Francisco, but where was Zeke, Gallup, and Noah Brown? Schultz didn't know how to properly get out of bounds at the end of the game? When the Eagles rushed to run a play when the WR made a questionable 'catch', that clearly showed me the difference in coaching between the teams. We would have been leisurely trotting to run a play and the yellow flag would have come out.

Kellen Moore can call some decent stuff, but his penchant to get cute when we need 2 yards is nonsense. We should NOT be throwing 20 yard bombs on 2nd and 2. There is also a discipline problem. The defense looked prepared while the offense was out of sorts. Ultimately, this falls on McCarthy, but how Quinn had his defense looking vs how Kellen Moore had his offense looking was leagues apart.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Again, false narrative. Saying he was ‘forced’ is saying Mike did not at all want KM. This is not at all accurate. It’s convenient to say that, because it makes it easier to bash JJ. It’s easy enough without having to make inaccurate assumptions.

Instead of just you saying so why not show us where you get that info.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Just want to see it.