Sunday Wildcard Playoff Games

[Eddie]

agreed man. but football gods do have some part in this. you dont go from Farve to Rodgers just by talent evaluation and grooming alone i feel.

midichlorian count is high or something in that ORG.

Midichlorian count is high in NE. GB has only a single SB with Rodgers. Nothing to discount but it's still only a single SB win. Just like Drew Brees ...

 

[joseephuss]

I remember the old who was better debates.

Mason Crosby or nick folk

They are pretty much the same kicker. Statistically Folk is slightly more accurate.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Hey what do you know?? All they talked about last night was the elbow when hills knee was clearly down. How ironic?!

 

[Eddie]

Yes, but Rodgers rode the pine for a couple of years

Which is the proper way to develop a young QB.

GB lucked out in having Rodgers drop so far in the draft. But still ... they pulled the trigger when he fell to them and allowed his to sit and learn for 3 years.

We wanted an immediate player and took Marcus Spears instead.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I see a bunch of DTs in the playoffs blowing up blockers and making plays behind the line of scrimmage. Meanwhile in Dallas........well, there is Hayden.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Can't tell if you're mocking the "Callahan is the bestest" crowd or not. Haha

We'll he obviously made a difference. Not like it would've mattered this season but This wasn't even close to last year's oline.

 

[TheDude]

agreed man. but football gods do have some part in this. you dont go from Farve to Rodgers just by talent evaluation and grooming alone i feel.

midichlorian count is high or something in that ORG.

Thanks for the reminder. Parcells was so stubborn about drafting a young QB. We also passed on Steven Jackson at RB because Parcells said he runs too upright and his career wouldn't last. We picked Julius Jones that year at RB. Jackson plays for the Pats now, Jones doesn't play football anymore.

We also decided to stick with Bledsoe when Drew Brees was available as a FA.

1 San Francisco 49ers Alex Smith † QB
2 Miami Dolphins Ronnie Brown † RB
3 Cleveland Browns Braylon Edwards † WR
4 Chicago Bears Cedric Benson RB
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carnell "Cadillac" Williams RB
6 Tennessee Titans Adam "Pac-Man" Jones CB
7 Minnesota Vikings Troy Williamson WR
8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle † CB
9 Washington Commanders Carlos Rogers † CB
10 Detroit Lions Mike Williams WR
11 Dallas Cowboys DeMarcus Ware † LB
12 San Diego Chargers Shawne Merriman † LB
13 New Orleans Saints Jammal Brown † OT
14 Carolina Panthers Thomas Davis † LB
15 Kansas City Chiefs Derrick Johnson † LB
16 Houston Texans Travis Johnson DT
17 Cincinnati Bengals David Pollack LB
18 Minnesota Vikings Erasmus James DE
19 St. Louis Rams Alex Barron OT
20 Dallas Cowboys Marcus Spears DE
21 Jacksonville Jaguars Matt Jones WR
22 Baltimore Ravens Mark Clayton WR
23 Oakland Raiders Fabian Washington CB

To Be fair, we werent the only ones that missed, Look at the Jags and Matt Jones or the Lions and Mike Williams or Rams and Alex Barron. There were some good players in that draft, but no way was Rodgers the 24th player at the time. Minnesota missed twice

 

[FLcowboy]

Because I was a Commanders fan who grew up in Maryland and hated Dallas until they drafted Tony Dorsett. I've been a Cowboys fan ever since, but I can't really muster hate for the Commanders.

Tony Dorsett was the reason I became a Cowboy's fan also.

 

[joseephuss]

Which is the proper way to develop a young QB.

GB lucked out in having Rodgers drop so far in the draft. But still ... they pulled the trigger when he fell to them and allowed his to sit and learn for 3 years.

We wanted an immediate player and took Marcus Spears instead.

Because they were letting Romo sit and learn at that time.

 

[perrykemp]

Midichlorian count is high in NE. GB has only a single SB with Rodgers. Nothing to discount but it's still only a single SB win. Just like Drew Brees ...

The Packer's somewhat conservative approach to roster management hurts them sometimes IMHO.

In the last 20 years they've only won two Superbowls despite playing in 6 NFC Championship games.

They are generally always good enough to make the playoffs -- but rarely good enough to win it all.

 

[TheDude]

Yes, but Rodgers rode the pine for a couple of years

Only because of Favre. He was chosen deliberately as BPA. He wouldnt have ridden the pine on about 20 of the 22 other teams that year, including Dallas

 

[Eddie]

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To Be fair, we werent the only ones that missed, Look at the Jags and Matt Jones or the Lions and Mike Williams or Rams and Alex Barron. There were some good players in that draft, but no way was Rodgers the 24th player at the time. Minnesota missed twice

Which is also why the Jags, Lions, and Cowboys have been sitting at home for the majority of these years.

 

[skinsscalper]

I don't hate any team. If they beat us, it's only because WE didn't prepare or aren't good enough. I don't hate other teams for beating us.

Doesn't have anything to do with whether or not they beat us. They are the first step in winning our division and getting to the dance. Enemies #1. Always.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Wow, a Cowobys fan in this joint! I love it!

Lol I'm a fan of anybody thats not the stealers since the playoffs started. Skins fans really got under my skin with all this sb talk. Lol

 

[mattjames2010]

We'll he obviously made a difference. Not like it would've mattered this season but This wasn't even close to last year's oline.

The Commanders run blocking is awful, the pass protection is good; but Callahan wasn't very good with pass protection last year with us.

Also, statistically, our line was nearly as good as the 2014 season. The Callahan crap is another myth this board won't let go.

 

[Eddie]

Only because of Favre. He was chosen deliberately as BPA. He wouldnt have ridden the pine on about 20 of the 22 other teams that year, including Dallas

He would have sat a year. We had the great Bledsoe. Parcells would not have played a rookie QB. He didn't even want to play a 4th year Tony Romo but only did so because he had no other options.

 

[StarBoyz83]

The Commanders run blocking is awful, the pass protection is good; but Callahan wasn't very good with pass protection last year with us.

Also, statistically, our line was nearly as good as the 2014 season. The Callahan crap is another myth this board won't let go.

Our run blocking was trash this year too though. It was insane last year!

 

[Eddie]

Because they were letting Romo sit and learn at that time.

Tony Romo wasn't considered the future of this team back then. Parcells only started him because his back was up against the wall, and Bledsoe was not getting it done. Jerry Jones had no idea what he had in Romo ... no one did.

 

[robjay04]

Zimmer played that exactly right.

At least it's good to see you guys second guessing other teams' coaches for player execution errors, too.

He was kept inactive because the 7th rounder was conditional based on CMikes playing time. The inactivity and lack of carries certainly didn't help him. The Cowboys didn't waste anytime using Turbin when he arrived. The running game wasn't consistent this season especially in short yardage you're just focusing on McFadden's rushing total which wasn't that impressive based on him having a career high in carries behind arguably the best OL in football. An elite back would have had 1500+ behind this line and 10+ TD's.

Once we reached the redone McFadden got stuffed putting pressure on our passing game which is why our point totals were way down this season. McFadden won't be the lead back next season he's not a bell cow and no longer has elite speed. In the opener Romo had to carry the offense with McFadden and Randle averaging less than 4.0 a carry. The running game wasn't close to what it was last season and it exposed our backup QBs. Even Murray had a longer run from scrimmage this season than McFadden.

He was inactive because Dunbar, once Dunbar got injured..a spot opened up for Michael.

McFadden isn't an elite back, neither is Michael...neither is Murray. The running game would've been better as the season progressed with McFadden though. As far as your red zone argument, do you think we would've been a tad more successful running the ball if teams didn't stack the box because they could care less about our passing game?

Your whole argument was that Michael starting for Seattle makes us look stupid, it doesn't because Michael isn't that great nor is he any better than McFadden....I believe most NFL general managers know that since nobody in the league wanted him for weeks after we dumped him.

I hope we replace McFadden as the starter in the backfield but I pray we land a better option than Christine Michael.

 

[mattjames2010]

1 San Francisco 49ers Alex Smith † QB
2 Miami Dolphins Ronnie Brown † RB
3 Cleveland Browns Braylon Edwards † WR
4 Chicago Bears Cedric Benson RB
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carnell "Cadillac" Williams RB
6 Tennessee Titans Adam "Pac-Man" Jones CB
7 Minnesota Vikings Troy Williamson WR
8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle † CB
9 Washington Commanders Carlos Rogers † CB
10 Detroit Lions Mike Williams WR
11 Dallas Cowboys DeMarcus Ware † LB
12 San Diego Chargers Shawne Merriman † LB
13 New Orleans Saints Jammal Brown † OT
14 Carolina Panthers Thomas Davis † LB
15 Kansas City Chiefs Derrick Johnson † LB
16 Houston Texans Travis Johnson DT
17 Cincinnati Bengals David Pollack LB
18 Minnesota Vikings Erasmus James DE
19 St. Louis Rams Alex Barron OT
20 Dallas Cowboys Marcus Spears DE
21 Jacksonville Jaguars Matt Jones WR
22 Baltimore Ravens Mark Clayton WR
23 Oakland Raiders Fabian Washington CB

To Be fair, we werent the only ones that missed, Look at the Jags and Matt Jones or the Lions and Mike Williams or Rams and Alex Barron. There were some good players in that draft, but no way was Rodgers the 24th player at the time. Minnesota missed twice

Did you guys see Rodgers play in college? Go back and watch his college days and ignore his NFL career. Rodgers was not even remotely close to the QB he is today coming out of college, he actually had poor mechanics.

At the time, I certainly believe he was a late first to early second value. He changed up his game for the NFL, something many QBs have trouble doing and it's not something you can see coming.