Terrell Owens: Real Cowboy or Not?

[Doomsday101]

He is a real member of the team, he is paid real money by the team and wears a real uniform. I may not think much of him but I do reconize his talent and hope as long as he is on this team that he can produce and not become to much of a distraction. In my eyes he will never go down as one of the Cowboy greats, just a hired gun

 

[jobberone]

So, how much of a distraction was he last year? Are you going to be able to tell me when you could tell this?

I am not trying to paint Owens as a Saint, by any means. And I know and appreciate what place Emmitt and Tony have in the collective consciousness.

But when you look at it and understand the parties involved and the different world that exists now, I find it hard to make a hard decision in terms of the line of demarcation.



I don't care how he felt about that drop. It is of no consequence. Any player in that circumstance would feel the same. I question how you can value Smith more than others.

Can you tell me what else Jackie Smith did for the franchise other than catch a bad Danny White lob in the Atlanta game?

Owens can put his mark on Cowboy history if things pan out.

I just wonder who would actually allow him that right if so.

If you can't already tell yourself what kind of distraction Owens was last year then I can't. I admitted it didn't cost us any games. But that's JMO. It wore thin. Real thin. And it had to wear on a man in his 60s trying to get a team to the SB. And the worse QB controversies around here never were the distraction that was. Has that kind of circus ever been seen in the NFL before?

Smith was a consummate professional. Never a distraction. A great teammate who was about team. Yeah he dropped the ball. Do I still think fondly of him? You bet I do. Probably more so for it.

Someone else said it better than I can. TO did something to this team that I'll never forget. I'd vote for him to go into the HOF but I'd never vote for him to get into the ROH. Does that say it?

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Pinocchio: real boy or puppet?

lol.....

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Even though he stood on the Cowboy's Star in the middle of the field with open arms as a 49er, and again in the endzone in Philadelphia, I must applaud those who have the forgiving attitude to still call TO a true Cowboy.

While that must have been a difficult decision for some of you, ...I'm just glad he isn't an Eagle.

sure you are

 

[Vintage]

Well, I went to NFL.com and checked the rosters for each team. I clicked on the Dallas Cowboys roster, scrolled down the list, and that's when I saw it. Terrell Owens, WR. I scrolled back up to make sure my eyes were not fooling me, but in fact, I was looking at the Dallas Cowboys roster. Still baffled, I continued my search for Terrell Owens on other team rosters. In my investigation, I discovered Montell Owens, a RB for the Vikings. Could they be one in the same? The last three letters of his first name are similar to those of Terrell Owens, but closer inspection revealed that he was not Terrell Owens, but someone completely different. My search continued but with little success. At the end of the day, one thing was clear to me: Terrell Owens is definitely a Dallas Cowboy.

I was going to post something similar to this.

Owens is a Cowboy. As long as he remains on the roster, he will continue to be a Cowboy.

Once he leaves, he will cease to be a Cowboy.

 

[DallasEast]

Even though he stood on the Cowboy's Star in the middle of the field with open arms as a 49er, and again in the endzone in Philadelphia, I must applaud those who have the forgiving attitude to still call TO a true Cowboy.

While that must have been a difficult decision for some of you, ...I'm just glad he isn't an Eagle.

With that kind of attitude, you should be sad that he's no longer an Eagle.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

To me.. TO will never be a player I look at as a "real" cowboy. I would never want him in the ROH. I didn't like him before he was a Cowboy and that didn't change just because he put on the uniform. I wish him well and I hope he is successful here because that makes Us a better team. But I wouldn't cry if he never played another down for us either.

 

[DallasInDC]

There are only a handful of players that can do what T.O. does...

Glenn is great, but T.O. is the more explosive.

Glenn I think is the most consitent reciever on third downs.

Both are equally valuable for what the bring to the table with their own individual talents and proficiencies.

I never understood why some fans need to have one player ranked above another. There are some aspects that Glenn is more proficient than TO and vice versa.

Me, I would much rather have two WR's that excell in different areas causing them to be the "debateable best WR on the team" than to have one WR who is the clear cut #1.

 

[DallasInDC]

I was going to post something similar to this.

Owens is a Cowboy. As long as he remains on the roster, he will continue to be a Cowboy.

Once he leaves, he will cease to be a Cowboy.

Just curious and I'm not trying to influence one way or the other, but let's assume TO over the course of his time here (say 4 - 5 more yrs) is a respectable teammate that puts up numbers respectable of the top 3-4 WR's in Cowboys history (say HOF worthy #'s) and is instrumental in us winning 1-3 superbowls would you consider him a Cowboy once he leaves. Especially since he was credited with destroying two of biggest rivalry teams?

 

[Rackat]

Just curious and I'm not trying to influence one way or the other, but let's assume TO over the course of his time here (say 4 - 5 more yrs) is a respectable teammate that puts up numbers respectable of the top 3-4 WR's in Cowboys history (say HOF worthy #'s) and is instrumental in us winning 1-3 superbowls would you consider him a Cowboy once he leaves. Especially since he was credited with destroying two of biggest rivalry teams?

If what he contributed directly related to the Cowboys winning 1-3 more SuperBowls, I would reconsider my peronal dislike of "the player".

 

[DallasEast]

Just curious and I'm not trying to influence one way or the other, but let's assume TO over the course of his time here (say 4 - 5 more yrs) is a respectable teammate that puts up numbers respectable of the top 3-4 WR's in Cowboys history (say HOF worthy #'s) and is instrumental in us winning 1-3 superbowls would you consider him a Cowboy once he leaves. Especially since he was credited with destroying two of biggest rivalry teams?

I know this question wasn't posed directly to me, but I would like to answer it.



No.

 

[JonJon]

I know this question wasn't posed directly to me, but I would like to answer it.



No.

Then what are your feelings on Michael Irvin? I would say his drug allegations and suspensions were far more detrimental to our franchise than anything Owens has ever done in San Fran and Philly.

Nto only did Irvin give himself a bad name, bad he gave the Cowboys a bad name, and it took years for that to go away. I would say that weighs more than calling out a coach or player and wanting more money.

 

[DallasInDC]

I know this question wasn't posed directly to me, but I would like to answer it.



No.

So am I correct in assuming that you believe that his actions with the 49ers and Philly would supercede anything he did while he was in Dallas?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He wears the star....nuff said.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I would say he is a COWBOY and a dang important one at that!

Our only true Super Star player really.....

 

[DallasInDC]

I would say he is a COWBOY and a dang important one at that!

Our only true Super Star player really.....

I would consider DWare a Super Star player with Romo on his way to becoming one if his first 5 starts are the real deal (which i think it is)

 

[DallasEast]

Then what are your feelings on Michael Irvin? I would say his drug allegations and suspensions were far more detrimental to our franchise than anything Owens has ever done in San Fran and Philly.

Sorry about the delay. I hate posting from work sometimes.

Make no mistake, Irvin's legal difficulties and suspensions placed a negative light on the franchise. However, his negative actions were strictly off-the-field events which caused him more harm than to the franchise itself. When I think of Irvin's Cowboy career, I think of a man who made personal mistakes which were not purposely directed at the franchise.

I do not make the same comparison with Owens. Owens has purposely:

• Voiced unsubstantiated rumors to the media about another teammate's sexual orientation. Why? For what reason?
• Acted unprofessionally to the point that two of his head coaches, Steve Mariucci and Andy Reid, suspended him multiple times. Not for any illegal activities, alleged or otherwise, mind you. No, just for being an idiot. Why? For what reason?
• Agreed in good faith to a $49 million dollar contract with Philadelphia, fully knowledgeable of the fact that it was backloaded and complained vigorously through the media for months.

These are just a few examples which separate Owens from Irvin, but my no. 1 problem with Owens remains his slap at the franchise as I described in an earlier post. A totally unnecessary and uncalled for insult directed straight at the franchise, it's legacy and it's fans. He may as well have dropped his drawers, squatted and defecated on the Star itself. Why? For what reason?

Answer: to massage his ego. Well, **** his ego and the horse it rode in on. Some will forever follow him with a shovel and bucket to clean up after him, but others will not. The franchise survived without him. After his departure, it will continue to survive. In the meantime, Owens wears the uniform. Hopefully, he can play well, keep his mouth shut (please, no more spitting!) and limit his interaction with the media to a minimum.

Yeah, I know. Pipe dream.

 

[DallasEast]

So am I correct in assuming that you believe that his actions with the 49ers and Philly would supercede anything he did while he was in Dallas?

Forgive me, because I'm not saying this in any malicious way whatsoever, but I didn't suddenly develop amnesia on the day Jerry Jones signed Owens to a contract.

 

[jobberone]

Sorry about the delay. I hate posting from work sometimes.

Make no mistake, Irvin's legal difficulties and suspensions placed a negative light on the franchise. However, his negative actions were strictly off-the-field events which caused him more harm than to the franchise itself. When I think of Irvin's Cowboy career, I think of a man who made personal mistakes which were not purposely directed at the franchise.

I do not make the same comparison with Owens. Owens has purposely:

• Voiced unsubstantiated rumors to the media about another teammate's sexual orientation. Why? For what reason?
• Acted unprofessionally to the point that two of his head coaches, Steve Mariucci and Andy Reid, suspended him multiple times. Not for any illegal activities, alleged or otherwise, mind you. No, just for being an idiot. Why? For what reason?
• Agreed in good faith to a $49 million dollar contract with Philadelphia, fully knowledgeable of the fact that it was backloaded and complained vigorously through the media for months.

These are just a few examples which separate Owens from Irvin, but my no. 1 problem with Owens remains his slap at the franchise as I described in an earlier post. A totally unnecessary and uncalled for insult directed straight at the franchise, it's legacy and it's fans. He may as well have dropped his drawers, squatted and defecated on the Star itself. Why? For what reason?

Answer: to massage his ego. Well, **** his ego and the horse it rode in on. Some will forever follow him with a shovel and bucket to clean up after him, but others will not. The franchise survived without him. After his departure, it will continue to survive. In the meantime, Owens wears the uniform. Hopefully, he can play well, keep his mouth shut (please, no more spitting!) and limit his interaction with the media to a minimum.

Yeah, I know. Pipe dream.

Well said. Exactly how I feel. I just don't have your way with words.

 

[bbgun]

Originally Posted by ndanger View Post
He wears the star....nuff said.

So did Harold "real Cowboy" Carmichael.