The danger of losing Miles Austin

[Clove]

why pay a receiver who won't be in your offense

I think we have to let Austin, barring TO is still on the team

That's the WR crew that's going to take us to the promise land. Roy Williams - Crayton and Austin, Witten.

Get it done Romo.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Miles Austin is a 3rd or 4th rec. at best. He's not worth any tender. TO is a hall of famer and Austin is a special teamer. Let's not be silly here.

He looked like a possible #2 in what little opportunity he was provided in Jason Garrett's offense. Whhich is substantial considering Roy E. Williams looked like a #5 WR (at best) in Garrett's offense.

 

[Clove]

I personally think it's time to draft a WR high in the draft. It's been a while, a long while.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I personally think it's time to draft a WR high in the draft. It's been a while, a long while.

We've already used this year's 1st and 3rd on the WR positon. Do you want us to use this year's 1st, 2nd and 3rd on the WR position (when we already have three locked up to big, longterm contracts) and just ignore the rest of the team?

Matt Millen would be proud.

 

[Clove]

You want us to use this year's 1st, 2nd and 3rd solely on the WR position and ignore the rest of the team?


Matt Millen would be proud.

I'm sorry, did I type that? I thought I typed, we need to draft a WR high.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I'm sorry, did I type that? I thought I typed, we need to draft a WR high.

With what pick? We've already allocated this year's 1st and 3rd on the WR position. I assume you mean 2nd round, since that's the only high pick we have. Which would be devoting the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick this year solely to the WR position.

 

[OAM]

They can run that tender or give him a 3 year contract that will at least pay him that a season. They will not just let him go and he is certainly not getting the low tender. Another thing one should ask is how many teams would make Austin a 2nd or 3rd WR? I'm thinking oodles as a 3rd and a couple as a 2nd. But don't think teams are going to break the bank for Miles.

There's a good deal of talent there but the production isn't there. I know folks will say "well they never gave him a real chance" or "well he was going to get there but got hurt" and it is all true but the fact is he still hasn't accomplished squat to think we're going to be in a huge running for his services.

I'm tired of hearing about Miami. Parcells is not going to reak the bank for Austin anymore than Jerry would. Parcells doesn't break the bank for anyone other than Marco Rivera. Jason Ferguson earned his money and still is on that contract. Rivera was a perrennial pro bowler when he got his cheque from Parcy. Parcy won't ever outbid Jerry jones for anyone, he may drive the price up on purpose knowing he won't pull the trigger but he isn't getting sucked for a Miles Austin. If he does, Austin's gold then before we even know it.

 

[gimmesix]

I can all but assure you that Miles Austin has more talent than Jason Tucker and any other ridiculous Campo era WR you can recollect. He was an underrated injury last season. He took over the Green Bay game and was the lone bright spot from the Rams game. He just can't stay healthy.

If we cut him tomorrow, he'd be on the first plane to Miami and making us look foolish in no time.

I'm definitely not saying cut him and I'm all for giving him a second-round tender, but I think too many as making him out to be more than he is, a guy with talent who might not excel in any role other than the one he has.

There's a big difference in being a guy teams don't really prepare for and being one of the main threats that teams identify as such and put their top corners on. The bigger the role, the more film there is to study and the more time spent in film study by the opponent. Your every tendency is scrutinized and teams try to take away what you do best.

Austin has talent, but can he do the things needed to step up his game and move into a bigger role? I don't know, so I can't say.

It seems to me that many on this board think they do know, which is jumping the gun a bit IMO.

 

[Clove]

With what pick? We've already allocated this year's 1st and 3rd on the WR position. I assume you mean 2nd round, since that's the only high pick we have. Which would be devoting the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick this year solely to the WR position.

Gotcha - Looking at it from that perspective, then I agree with you.:

 

[InmanRoshi]

I'm tired of hearing about Miami. Parcells is not going to reak the bank for Austin anymore than Jerry would. Parcells doesn't break the bank for anyone other than Marco Rivera.

Ever heard of this obscure runningback named Curtis Martin?

 

[Clove]

I'm definitely not saying cut him and I'm all for giving him a second-round tender, but I think too many as making him out to be more than he is, a guy with talent who might not excel in any role other than the one he has.

There's a big difference in being a guy teams don't really prepare for and being one of the main threats that teams identify as such and put their top corners on. The bigger the role, the more film there is to study and the more time spent in film study by the opponent. Your every tendency is scrutinized and teams try to take away what you do best.

Austin has talent, but can he do the things needed to step up his game and move into a bigger role? I don't know, so I can't say.

It seems to me that many on this board think they do know, which is jumping the gun a bit IMO.

Austin does have the skills to be good, their is no reason he shouldn't be able to bully his way past Crayton.

 

[gimmesix]

I'm tired of hearing about Miami. Parcells is not going to reak the bank for Austin anymore than Jerry would.

If we tender Austin, Parcells will not offer him anything. He was upset when Peyton did that in NO after leaving Dallas and has made a point of saying he doesn't believe in that. (I've seen no evidence that Parcells isn't a man of his word on this.)

Now, if we don't tender Austin, I would not be surprised at all if he ends up in Miami.

 

[gimmesix]

Austin does have the skills to be good, their is no reason he shouldn't be able to bully his way past Crayton.

There's no physical reason, but that doesn't mean he will.

Crayton has better hands, so if Austin lapses in concentration, he could lose the chance.

Austin has better speed, but Crayton runs crisper routes (which he has to do because he's so slow). Sam Hurd also runs crisper routes and could end up in the conversation as well.

Injuries could also derail him.

Austin has the skills to be really good, but it doesn't mean he will be. I'd love to see it happen, but I'm not going to just believe it will because he has ability.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Gotcha - Looking at it from that perspective, then I agree with you.:

Aside from the "too many resources devoted to the WR position" stance, I think it would be a waste to draft a WR highly because he won't get an opportunity here. Especially if we keep TO. Nobody can say Austin didn't deserve more opportunities to play given his performance in the preseason and against Green Bay, but instead of going the young guy Jerry got cold feet and paid out the nose for the "proven" guy. For some reason, Garrett's offense absolutely can't work unless you have proven Pro Bowlers at every single position. Even losing a middle of the road interior lineman like Kyle Kosar can singlehandedly bring his offense down.

Draft a WR highly and the same thing will happen to him that happened to Austin. He'll sit on the bench for 3 or 4 years, get a little spot play or kick return and we'll let him walk in free agency because "we don't know that he can ever be more than a #3 WR". Being drafted highly is no guarantee that we'll use him ... we used a 1st round pick on Felix Jones and we barely let him touch the ball even though he was averaging 9 yards per carry.

 

[Clove]

Aside from the "too many resources devoted to the WR position" stance, I think it would be a waste to draft a WR highly because he won't get an opportunity here. Especially if we keep TO. Nobody can say Austin didn't deserve more opportunities to play given his performance in the preseason and against Green, but the Cowboys got cold feet and traded for the "proven" guy. For some reason, Garrett's offense absolutely can't work unless you have proven Pro Bowlers at every single position.

I went from wanting to argue with you to agreeing with you just like that, and their are other issues we need to address. I would just like to see speed and explosiveness added to our WR core.

We've all seen what Felix and TO on the field at the same time does to defenses.

Maybe their is a cheap alternative in Free Agency.

 

[EPL0c0]

I wouldn't be surprised if Dannyboy or Philly throw money at Austin.

 

[Idgit]

I can tell you for a fact that the Dullphins would be first in line with contract in hand, knocking on his door at midnight.

It wouldn't surprise me if they do that anyways and just give up their 2nd round pick, which is lower than the Cowboys'.

They'd snap him up in a heartbeat and make up for trying to get away with the same thing with Wes Welker.

It's moot, anyway, b/c there's almost no way we expose Austin. He's really developed into a good receiver, and I think he could be a lot better with playing time. Frankly, I think it's pretty close to time to let TO go anyway to make room for a younger player.

 

[chinch]

No worries, Jerry can trade #1 and overpay some JAG WR after Miles leaves.

I like the guy and hope he leaves actually, he deserves better than Jerruh's Cowboys.

Miles Austin is a restricted free agent. Since he was undrafted if the Cowboys place the low tender on him he can get scooped up (most likely by the Dolphins), and the Cowboys get no draft compensation.

2nd round tender -- 1.45 million.
1st round tender -- 2

 

[Doomsday]

With next season being uncapped and TO's future in doubt, I say you tender him at the 2.2 million and re-evaluate the position next off season.

It was hard to play him this season because of his injury situation. We invested a lot of time and effort into developing this guy lets not let him get away without getting anything for him.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Miles Austin will get a high tender because, before he got hurt, he was on way to at the very least sharing time with Crayton. He may have even taken his 3rd WR spot.