The divide of the Dallas Cowboy's fandom

Trouty

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RS12 said:
I am talking over 50, and I have been on this board since before Reality took it over. You can look up a lot of peoples ages. Most of the over 50 people you will find are pretty crusty in general and not ieadealistic at all.
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Fair enough, RS.
 
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Trouty said:
Now that I agree with, Haley. With age, comes wisdom. But not a grounded view of Dallas Cowboys football. Two vastly different subjects. I respect my elders, but I'm also self aware.
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I have preceived some generational differences...not extreme...but that is normal.
 
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RS12 said:
You are way off here. I think age has a whole lot to do with your outlook on every thing in life, not just to do with the Cowboys. I think the younger posters on this board are a whole lot more optimistic and forgiving than the older ones in general.
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I'd assume the opposite. I know my own perspective has matured as I've gotten older. I typically assume the more impatient posters just haven't been around long enough to have perspective how the league really works. Which is what often gets them in trouble relative to the guidelines, coincidently.

That, or they're older guys who just are tired because they live in one of the other NFCE markets and they're tired of fighting the good fight and have sort of given up.
 
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RS12 said:
You are way off here. I think age has a whole lot to do with your outlook on every thing in life, not just to do with the Cowboys. I think the younger posters on this board are a whole lot more optimistic and forgiving than the older ones in general.
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I'd definitely agree with this. And I salute this generation for their optimism. They are hanging in there without ever enjoying the glory years like us ole diehards.
 
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I remember what it felt like to root for a team that never won anything in the 60's. It was brutal in those early years. But by 1966 we were playing for a championship which provided us hope we could do it moving forward .

Waiting 20 years is a completely different story for this generation . Wow . A new breed of Cowboy diehards. God Bless them!
 
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Trouty said:
In the recent past, certain players/personnel have drawn a predominant amount of disdain from our fanbase -- Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett (especially the last two years), Nick Hayden, JJ Wilcox, Carr (depending on the day), even Greg Hardy.

Then, there were the fringe guys that towed the line of love and hate, depending on the particular fan -- guys like TWill, McFadden, Mo, Doug Free.

Now it's spilled over to fan favorites, guys that have done all they can to help the organization, and were at one point or another almost universally loved, two players specifically -- Tony Romo and Dez Bryant.

While Romo has always had his detractors for various reasons, most fans knew this guy was our backbone and always presented us a chance to win. The sole reason why we were even remotely relevant, and a cover up of a mediocre coaching staff and front office. At the same time, Dez was the guy that was the conduit for Tony and the endzone. Our guy we could count on to grab that ball in traffic and bring it down for 6.

Now, after a series of injuries to both players, the fandom is out and very vocal in their disapproval for our two Big Name, fan favorite players.

It's almost sad to see these two guys go down this path. Is this what happens as players age, as they go through various injuries. Is this a byproduct of a team that has toiled in mediocrity for over two decades, spilling out now into our assessment of our very best.

Perhaps it's because we have two new rooks, with sky-high potential on offense in Zeke and Dak, and they are simply pushing the older stars out the door.

Injuries happen, and, especially in the case of Dez, we should excercise patience, yet we aren't. With Tony, it's a bit more problematic, as his growing amount of injuries make it hard to defend him against his now growing amount of detractors (yet, I still try).

I get it, it's sports -- and perhaps that very simplistic statement answers my own question. Yet, I want to reflect with a post, how sad it is to see things going down the way they are. Especially since I'm new to a large fanbase that can hear my rant.
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I am a bit late to this thread (great OP by the way) so this may have already been touched on as a theme...I think a big factor in the dramatic swing of fan sentiment (up or down) is the amount of investment made in a given player/star contributor. I think that effects overall POV and expectations tremendously. It has been a tough turn of events for Tony and Dez - i.e., the injury bug came along right as they signed big contracts and/or extensions. Heck, the same can be said for Scandrick and Crawford and even Sean Lee...and yes, Doug Free, it could be argued, is in that category as well. I, for one, am beyond exasperated that it seems that our big signings of recent years to our top tier guys almost assures that the player will be dogged by an incessant string of injuries, ultimately resulting in that player not living up to the contract and the lofty fan expectations that comes with it. I mean SERIOUSLY...isn't it becoming almost like clockwork??! And now, God forbid, we might have Smith at OT going through the same experience (early signs). It's like signing a big contract with the Cowboys is tantamount to being on the Madden cover!?! smh...lol. Doesn't help that our FO is more than a bit lame in the injury assessment/prognosis department (or at least the disclosure thereof).

I think the big compensation is a big contributing factor in the overall reaction (not just from fans) in the case of many players (not necessarily those you mention in your initial examples). With much $ comes much responsibility...heavy is the head that wears the crown...blah blah blah.
 
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Trouty said:
In the recent past, certain players/personnel have drawn a predominant amount of disdain from our fanbase -- Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett (especially the last two years), Nick Hayden, JJ Wilcox, Carr (depending on the day), even Greg Hardy.

Then, there were the fringe guys that towed the line of love and hate, depending on the particular fan -- guys like TWill, McFadden, Mo, Doug Free.

Now it's spilled over to fan favorites, guys that have done all they can to help the organization, and were at one point or another almost universally loved, two players specifically -- Tony Romo and Dez Bryant.

While Romo has always had his detractors for various reasons, most fans knew this guy was our backbone and always presented us a chance to win. The sole reason why we were even remotely relevant, and a cover up of a mediocre coaching staff and front office. At the same time, Dez was the guy that was the conduit for Tony and the endzone. Our guy we could count on to grab that ball in traffic and bring it down for 6.

Now, after a series of injuries to both players, the fandom is out and very vocal in their disapproval for our two Big Name, fan favorite players.

It's almost sad to see these two guys go down this path. Is this what happens as players age, as they go through various injuries. Is this a byproduct of a team that has toiled in mediocrity for over two decades, spilling out now into our assessment of our very best.

Perhaps it's because we have two new rooks, with sky-high potential on offense in Zeke and Dak, and they are simply pushing the older stars out the door.

Injuries happen, and, especially in the case of Dez, we should excercise patience, yet we aren't. With Tony, it's a bit more problematic, as his growing amount of injuries make it hard to defend him against his now growing amount of detractors (yet, I still try).

I get it, it's sports -- and perhaps that very simplistic statement answers my own question. Yet, I want to reflect with a post, how sad it is to see things going down the way they are. Especially since I'm new to a large fanbase that can hear my rant.
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Welcome to our neurotic jungle Trouty! Glad to have you in the fold!
 
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Trouty said:
The age of information, driven by millennials (I am one, but don't act as such, at least I feel I don't) greatly amplifies everything you noted, Bkight.

In my opinion, I think the futility of the franchise draws the largest amount of angst from our fandom, and bleeds itself down to our players.

My LA Kings had a very angry fanbase for years and years. Ever since I started following them in '96, every year was a giant bash fest, and rightfully so. They were pathetic. They drafted pathetic, and outside of 2 or 3 oh-so-close years, were woefully bad.

Then we got Dean Lombardi (our GM), and he changed the whole foundation of the organization, and with that, fans drank ALL the kool aid, on the way to two championships in three years (having gone 45 years without one, beforehand).

The futility of our franchise is seriously hemorrhaging into our fanbase, at least partially causing this devide, me thinks. And I can't fault it. But damn, it's disheartening to see, as we all adore our team.
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:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Dean Lombardi gave my Sharks some good teams, but never a championship.
 
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