The even-keel, straight-shooter, non knee-jerk thread

[NextGenBoys]

I agree those are drive killers or hurt at the least. But those don't distract from the obvious. Romo has to have protection to be successful. Every QB needs it. OW it's at the very least an inept offense.

We didn't have a game plan to either confront or adjust to the blitz. We never run the ball even when we're in a 3-0 game in the third quarter. Take the damn ball out of their hot QB's hands with TOP. Not the other way around.

I'll give you the poor execution as I did earlier. That doesn't distract from the poor play calling on top of it. We couldn't have called a much worse game IMO.

No doubt. That is one of the top three "must-do's" every week if we want to win. It wasn't too bad though, but it has to improve.

Not true. And it's hard to run when you're 0-3 in third down conversions in the 3rd quarter, and the distance needed was 19,13, and 23 yards. One of which was converted and called back for offensive PI that had no bearing to the completion at all.

I'm not saying our gameplan was perfect, but you're asking too much from ANY coach for it to be perfect. There was still plenty of plays to be made with what was called, and on the offensive side of the ball they made too many mistakes.

A defense that cant get off the field then an offense that cant stay on the field combined with penalties, drops, and fumbles is hard to overcome no matter what plays are called.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

42 passes to 11 rushes. you were saying something about coaching?

To be fair we were playing catchup the whole 4th quarter.

 

[Apollo Creed]

13-3.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

This team ain't down yet. That Philly game gave me hope that there is something there. We need to win against Wash and Oak then we'll be right on track.

11-5 will win the division.

 

[NextGenBoys]

13-3.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

 

[AmericasTeam31]

If this was a one time deal I could understand the arguement. But we see this every season. We run all of our WR on deeper routes, how often do we hit a short crossing route for 5 yds? Rarely! Garrett is all about the big play, downfield or nothing. If we are not gaining 5ypc we just give up constantly! Why do you think we are so high up in the ypc rankings? Because we ONLY run the ball when it works... As soon as it's stopped a few times we give it up...

 

[NextGenBoys]

This team ain't down yet. That Philly game gave me hope that there is something there. We need to win against Wash and Oak then we'll be right on track.

11-5 will win the division.

Not by any means, and I hope no one is suggesting that. If they are then well, sorry.

It's going to make those December games really tough, and I'm not even talking about our stupid "December History". Screw that crap, we were lousy in December last year because we played good freakin teams. Those Romo struggles? Yeah, it was against 4 of the top 5 defenses in the league.

I want as much padding as possible once we hit this December. At New York, San Diego, at New Orleans, at Washington and then Philly.

We're going to have to play very clean football with very few mistakes because every single one of those teams will beat us if we play the way we've played in half of our games this season.

 

[casmith07]

 

[links18]

Once I saw the hat, I knew we were ****ed.

http://img121.*************/img121/557/ch21sunnov152009041249p.jpg

It was 47 degrees. I thought Romo was from Wisconsin. What a weather wimp!

 

[EPL0c0]

I posted this in another thread as well:

I think the time of possession said a lot about this game and how it was played by Dallas. Total TOP ended about 36min(GB) to 24min(DAL)

But, in the first 3 QTRs for Dallas' offense (assuming my math isn't that bad):
1st 5:48
2nd 4:22
3rd 3:48

The offense stranded the defense out on the field. I guess you could say that the defense couldn't stop the Packers and get themselves off the field, but giving up just a FG through 3 QTRs despite the TOP says a lot about how tough the defense was playing. I think they just finally got tired/wore down.

In that sense, I think Wade, as DC, did a good job today. Credit to the players for staying with it as long as they could.

 

[Fletch]

Yeah it sucks to lose. But for some reason, this loss doesn't sting like most. Mainly because the Iggles still lost, and we are still in first place. Lastly, the mighty Steelers lost again to the upstart Bungles. I love that.

Sure makes coming to work that much easier.

Bottomline, this game definitely defined trap. GB was a very good .500 team going into this game. We'll bounce back.

 

[Rudy]

No, you are conveniently jumping over the fact the that the drop and fumble killed two drives. This is playing well?

I am in the "Roy can do it!" camp, but double damn if you aren't 10000% on the money here. Just completely huge momentum killers that really are the 2 plays that stick out in my mind the hardest.

All in all, Green Bay had to win this game - and no matter how good this team (or any playoff contending team) is, this here remains pretty constant: A team playing with backs against the wall at home (ESPECIALLY Lambeau!) will step up. Both teams looked ugly, but it's almost as if this loss is almost easier to swallow than the overtime win against KC.

 

[Rudy]

To be fair we were playing catchup the whole 4th quarter.

...if they're going to gauge a game on stats, they don't merit the attention.

 

[Capt.Gut]

Once I saw the hat, I knew we were ****ed.

http://img121.*************/img121/557/ch21sunnov152009041249p.jpg

dito here. Exact the same thought.

 

[jobberone]

No doubt. That is one of the top three "must-do's" every week if we want to win. It wasn't too bad though, but it has to improve.

Not true. And it's hard to run when you're 0-3 in third down conversions in the 3rd quarter, and the distance needed was 19,13, and 23 yards. One of which was converted and called back for offensive PI that had no bearing to the completion at all.

I'm not saying our gameplan was perfect, but you're asking too much from ANY coach for it to be perfect. There was still plenty of plays to be made with what was called, and on the offensive side of the ball they made too many mistakes.

A defense that cant get off the field then an offense that cant stay on the field combined with penalties, drops, and fumbles is hard to overcome no matter what plays are called.

How do you get in third and long? It's either penalties or sacks or both. No one is arguing you don't throw the ball on 3rd and long. Don't be silly. But if you run the ball more you likely don't get the holds and sacks that put you deeper in the hole.

Even if they don't hold the ball where are the slants and short stuff to allow Romo to get rid of the ball faster. They blitzed over and over. Why? Because it was working. Why was it working? Because we didn't have more protection in and we didn't get the ball out quicker. And we didn't run the ball more. And we got stuck in 3rd and long which we have a terrible conversion rate in.

We sucked it up today.

 

[dbair1967]

Is Felix missing something right now? He wasn't all effective when he was out there, but at the same time our run blocking on the plays he was out there was terrible so I couldn't tell whether he was really at fault there. We do need to get him back to how he was before the injury though.

He's missing a healthy knee.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Look - we got physically whipped, particularly on offense. Plain and simple. The defense was pretty good IMO given the opponent and the situations they were put in. The injuries to our CB and S obviously hurt us.

In games like this, the offense cant afford to make mistakes. The missed FG and Roy's fumble cost us at least 6 points. As bad as everything went for us today, those 6 points COMPLETELY change the flow of the game.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Once I saw the hat, I knew we were ****ed.

http://img121.*************/img121/557/ch21sunnov152009041249p.jpg

I dont know what it is about Pam. She is a big ole' batch of yum-yum.
Oh you said something about a hat... sorry....

 

[Everson24]

I don't see this as a major loss other than the injuries sustained. You're going to lose some, and you rarely look "good" when doing so.

The problem I see developing is that the team hasn't really run the ball that effectively since about the third game of the season. The talent would appear to be there, but it's simply not working. And I don't necessarily blame Garrett for giving up on the run; why continue banging your head against the wall when it seems like you're losing two yards a pop?

To me, this has been a problem for a while. This team's running game seems to get worse as the season progresses, leaving the Cowboys a one-dimensional offense. And while the passing game is good, we've continually seen teams succeed in frustrating the offense by getting physical with the passing game.


Passing the football is and will continue to be this team's identity. But they must figure out a way to sustain a consistent, formidable running game.

This has been our problem late in seasons and in the playoffs. Tony Romo gets most of the blame but we do become one dimensional as the season wears on.

 

[Rampage]

To be fair we were playing catchup the whole 4th quarter.

it was 3-0 in the 4th quarter

...if they're going to gauge a game on stats, they don't merit the attention.

see above mr. know-it-all