The goat, where does Prescott really rank

[MountaineerCowboy]

what praise? he doesn't deserve the hatred that's been thrown at him.

You praise him enough to try and discredit what Hall of Famers, winners, and legends have done.

You won't say you agree with what Jimmy Johnson said about Dak, like you know better then he does, so it's all pretty obvious.

You've crowned him before he has even done anything to deserve it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You down play legends and winners impact to prop Dak up. It's embarrassing really.

Then you and your buddy Roy just comment back and forth to each other about Daks greatness, Yikes.

when did I down play? I made no such statements. I merely asked a question. and when did me and Roy talk about Dak's greatness?

you have a very well established reputation of exaggerating anything to spin you anger and hatred towards Dak. its not even debatable.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Of course Aikman had great talent around him.

Dak has also been surround with great talent every year but the first half of 2018 (yikes was he bad) and done nothing with it.

Ok, first half of 2018. his starting WRs were Rookie Michael Gallup. Rookie Blake Jarwin, Geoff Swaim, Allen Hurns. Rico Gathers, Deonte Thompson.

I mean that's a HOF group if I ever saw one....they get my vote.

and in the second half of that same year...he got one player added. Cooper. Cowboys offense was #1 in the league.

yeah, you don't have an agenda...never.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You praise him enough to try and discredit what Hall of Famers, winners, and legends have done.

You won't say you agree with what Jimmy Johnson said about Dak, like you know better then he does, so it's all pretty obvious.

You've crowned him before he has even done anything to deserve it.

I don't praise him...what you percieve as praise and you have said as much yourself, is that I don't pile on hatred on him and you take that as praise. On the other hand you do tend to pile on. I have also noticed you are not much into details, and kind of scan the surface kind of guy who likes to make generalizations, which is characteristic of those who have an agenda. details don't matter. perception does.

I didn't disagree with Johnson. What I have said is that good QBs, maximize and utilize the talent that surrounds them. great ones manage to win championships. then there is the only GOAT. Brady. although he has had talent around him, lets not kid ourselves, but he wins championships at an unprecedented rate.

and I asked you a simple question which you have in the past avoided and even said you won't answer. how many great QBs have won anything without talent around them. yeah..go ahead and spin

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

when did I down play? I made no such statements. I merely asked a question. and when did me and Roy talk about Dak's greatness?

you have a very well established reputation of exaggerating anything to spin you anger and hatred towards Dak. its not even debatable.

You and yoru buddy are always hyping each other up with your mutual love for Dak. It's already been shown that both of ya don't care to discredit legends if it means putting Dak over.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Ok, first half of 2018. his starting WRs were Rookie Michael Gallup. Rookie Blake Jarwin, Geoff Swaim, Allen Hurns. Rico Gathers, Deonte Thompson.

I mean that's a HOF group if I ever saw one....they get my vote.

and in the second half of that same year...he got one player added. Cooper. Cowboys offense was #1 in the league.

yeah, you don't have an agenda...never.

What has he accomplished with that #1 offense?

You act like that 2020 defense that he played 4 games with is the same defense that he has had his whole career.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You and yoru buddy are always hyping each other up with your mutual love for Dak. It's already been shown that both of ya don't care to discredit legends if it means putting Dak over.

I have never hyped him up. it seems you are angry because somebody else agrees with my view...I could say the very same thing and point to 100s of posts that you and your buddies always hype each other up the same.

I don't have love for Dak. its your perception given your absolute hatred for Dak and you tend to mistake anyone who absolutely, unequivocally doesn't just plain hate Dak as "love"....your emotions tend to get in your way. you have tried very hard to come across as objective, yet given your emotional feelings towards Dak, its hard to hide for a long time and eventually surfaces itself. you are not objective at all. you have a specific agenda. your opinion, as wrong as it maybe in many aspects....I have even welcomed you to your opinion, but I draw the line when you want to form my opinions for me. in that regard you are totally clueless, thus not accepted or tolerated.

why do you hate Dak so much? why do you cherish the cowboys losing and suffering and you gloating about Dak's failure? why do you put your Dak's hatred above team's love?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What has he accomplished with that #1 offense?

You act like that 2020 defense that he played 4 games with is the same defense that he has had his whole career.

one play off win.... I never said otherwise.

you are a very confused kid. on the one hand, you claim that the output of the team was bad. when pointed to the fact the output was good in second half for reasons that you seemingly agreed to, you change the target to what was the final result...

which takes us back full circle, something you have said but acted otherwise, being that team results aren't fault of one person, which you just said it was....so are wins/losses and team success based on one person, one player and nobody else... go ahead spin away

2020 defense wasn't the same defense. In the beginning it was an all time worst defense. no debating that.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I don't praise him...what you percieve as praise and you have said as much yourself, is that I don't pile on hatred on him and you take that as praise. On the other hand you do tend to pile on. I have also noticed you are not much into details, and kind of scan the surface kind of guy who likes to make generalizations, which is characteristic of those who have an agenda. details don't matter. perception does.

I didn't disagree with Johnson. What I have said is that good QBs, maximize and utilize the talent that surrounds them. great ones manage to win championships. then there is the only GOAT. Brady. although he has had talent around him, lets not kid ourselves, but he wins championships at an unprecedented rate.

and I asked you a simple question which you have in the past avoided and even said you won't answer. how many great QBs have won anything without talent around them. yeah..go ahead and spin

You use every excuses in the book for him.

If you can thrown our own franchises HOFers and winners under the bus to somehow make Dak look better you've proven you're not above it.

When have I said that QBs don't need talent around them to win? Please find that a link me to it, because I never claimed that. That's a given. BUT, Dak has plenty of talent around him. You Dak apologist milk that 2020 defense for all it's worth now. Dak played 4 games with that defense, but you guys like to act like he's had it his whole career. Give me a break lol

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I have never hyped him up. it seems you are angry because somebody else agrees with my view...I could say the very same thing and point to 100s of posts that you and your buddies always hype each other up the same.

I don't have love for Dak. its your perception given your absolute hatred for Dak and you tend to mistake anyone who absolutely, unequivocally doesn't just plain hate Dak as "love"....your emotions tend to get in your way. you have tried very hard to come across as objective, yet given your emotional feelings towards Dak, its hard to hide for a long time and eventually surfaces itself. you are not objective at all. you have a specific agenda. your opinion, as wrong as it maybe in many aspects....I have even welcomed you to your opinion, but I draw the line when you want to form my opinions for me. in that regard you are totally clueless, thus not accepted or tolerated.

why do you hate Dak so much? why do you cherish the cowboys losing and suffering and you gloating about Dak's failure? why do you put your Dak's hatred above team's love?

You have another notorious Dak lover and excuse maker agree with you. Color me shocked.

I don't hate anyone. I just refuse to crown him without winning anything.

 

[stiletto]

Nobody said Aikman wasn't surrounded by great talent.

The difference is Aikman didn't want to be the star like Dak does.

I fundamentally disagree with this. Aikman was running around opening car dealerships, starring in Country Music videos and dating people like Lorie Morgan and other starlets. He enjoyed his celebrity time as a Cowboys QB. You just don't have a good memory. Back then there was no internet and things weren't as publicized.

Aikman definitely took advantage of the perks that came with being the Cowboys QB. Also, I've never heard Dak say "I have to have the best stats". He seems to care more about winning and has said so MANY times.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I fundamentally disagree with this. Aikman was running around opening car dealerships, starring in Country Music videos and dating people like Lorie Morgan and other starlets. He enjoyed his celebrity time as a Cowboys QB. You just don't have a good memory. Back then there was no internet and things weren't as publicized.

Aikman definitely took advantage of the perks that came with being the Cowboys QB. Also, I've never heard Dak say "I have to have the best stats". He seems to care more about winning and has said so MANY times.

I don't care what he does to make money outside of football or who he dates. He can enjoy all the off the field perks he wants too.

By "being the star" I mean not knowing his role on the team. Aikman knew the team was best suited as a running team (The same exact way it would be now) and he was fine with sacrificing his own stats to win games. Dak went from 3 winning seasons in a row behind Zeke to 8-8 and 1-3 when we decided we all of a sudden with his buddy Kellen Moore in charge we wanted to be pass first.

Dak, like Aikman, is great at being a game manager. We would be much better off if played like it.

 

[Whirlwin]

Yes, you are correct it is about playoffs and championships, which the player in question has not proven.

The post is not mine I don’t know how you did that. Kind of deceiving my cowboy brother.

 

[Whirlwin]

I don't care what he does to make money outside of football or who he dates. He can enjoy all the off the field perks he wants too.

By "being the star" I mean not knowing his role on the team. Aikman knew the team was best suited as a running team (The same exact way it would be now) and he was fine with sacrificing his own stats to win games. Dak went from 3 winning seasons in a row behind Zeke to 8-8 and 1-3 when we decided we all of a sudden with his buddy Kellen Moore in charge we wanted to be pass first.

Dak, like Aikman, is great at being a game manager. We would be much better off if played like it.

Camaraderie. That’s what makes Prescott a winner. The people around him respect him. And you earned that you don’t deserve that. And you can’t take that away from him. That’s his best attribute Prescott More than once has taken over this team. Without Elliot. Without starting center. Tight and left tackle wide receiver. And still came out winning. You just don’t give him the credit he deserves and probably never will

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

You and your buddy Roy has created this "Dak is the GOAT" echo chamber between each other. It's cute, not gonna lie.

There's not much substance to any of your posts. Just fluff, not backed by anything.

 

[Whirlwin]

To be fair, you asked an NFL question in a Cowboys forum. It's impossible to think that wouldn't lead to Dak's place in the discussion being considered.

Frankly, though, he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation ... not yet and possibly not ever. The only Dallas quarterback with a seat at that table is Staubach.

Well to be fair. They should’ve put the post where it belongs. But I agree with Roger

 

[Whirlwin]

There's not much substance to any of your posts. Just fluff, not backed by anything.

The book has yet to be written on Prescott . And some of these people are ready to close it before he even gets started. I find it comical. And yet they think they know everything about him.

 

[Whirlwin]

Yes, you are correct it is about playoffs and championships, which the player in question has not proven.

Yeah I guess it’s his fault that the cornerback didn’t get deep enough in the game against Green Bay. That one play change the entire game. Prescott wasn’t even on the field

 

[Brax]

no, he just needs a defense that's not all time worst...let that sink in....

Forgot about 2019 2018 .........5 seasons same result. Selective memory seems to be a problem for some. We know it was everyone else’s fault.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Forgot about 2019 2018 .........5 seasons same result. Selective memory seems to be a problem for some. We know it was everyone else’s fault.

You think those 5 seasons were his fault?

(Also those 5 seasons did not have the same result lmao)