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I would argue that Houston and Denver are more desperate than Minnesota.
I don't know, V
Houston made the playoffs with what they have coming back and Denver has to assume the young guys they have will be better for a team that was already 9-7.

Minnesota lost their starter right before the season, so probably felt they had zero chance of the playoffs without making some sort of desperate move.
 

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I have no idea but if Buffalo offers us a first round pick you don't say no because Romo anything.

We agree there. At the very core of this, Jones owes it to do what's in the best interest of the Cowboys, not Romo.
 

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I have no idea but if Buffalo offers us a lucrative package of picks you don't say no because Romo anything.
It'd be awesome to some how get a 1st round offer from a team where he would actually play. If Buffalo happens to be one of those teams, hell yes, you take it!:flagwave:

Again, but if it's not, he can just retire like so many people already think he should have done with all of his injuries...and feel good about walking when he's 50.
it's irrelevant because they would not make the offer unless Romo's agent let them know he'd play there. A waste otherwise.

But Buffalo might fit the category where we get that fine line of max compensation from a team that he still might actually play for. If he has a last of 3-4 teams, they might just be on it....though at the bottom.
 

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I don't know, V
Houston made the playoffs with what they have coming back and Denver has to assume the young guys they have will be better for a team that was already 9-7.

Minnesota lost their starter right before the season, so probably felt they had zero chance of the playoffs without making some sort of desperate move.

I would be more desperate if I knew I had all the pieces except a qb. Not many teams have the potential to win a Super Bowl and if you only need one piece, I think that would lead to desperation
 

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It'd be awesome to some how get a 1st round offer from a team where he would actually play. If Buffalo happens to be one of those teams, hell yes, you take it!:flagwave:

Again, but if it's not, he can just retire like so many people already think he should have done with all of his injuries...and feel good about walking when he's 50.
it's irrelevant because they would not make the offer unless Romo's agent let them know he'd play there. A waste otherwise.

But Buffalo might fit the category where we get that fine line of max compensation from a team that he still might actually play for. If he has a last of 3-4 teams, they might just be on it....though at the bottom.

He would be leaving $15m on the table. He also really wants to compete; he does not want to retire and is telling anyone who will listen that he sees himself playing for three more years.

I cannot discount it out of hand but I don't really see him giving up his 8 figure NFL career so he can make 6 figures at ESPN or wherever.
 

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We agree there. At the very core of this, Jones owes it to do what's in the best interest of the Cowboys, not Romo.
We should get whatever we can...if anything. Two sides to that equation, and Romo makes up half of it. He can and will retire if his only option is to play somewhere where he doesn't want to play. All veterans can say that at some point. retirement is not illegal...and is almost expected when you played for a long time with so many injuries.

I GUESS that it goes like this on his "list":

1) List of Teams that he wants to play for and are contenders
2) List of Teams that he less excited about but could be in the playoffs if all went well

BIG GAP

3) Maybe dallas as a backup...maybe
4) RETIREMENT...spend time with family, enjoy life and new kid, live to walk when he's older,,,lol


GAP

5) list all teams that he does not want to play for. He's had a good career. Nobody can force him or any player to play if they don't want to.


In other words. A team could offer 10 1st rounders and it makes zero difference if they are on list #5. Not only that, going to a team that gives up so much further weakens the team you're going to.

Buffalo is either in #2 or #5...I have no idea.
 
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I don't know, V
Houston made the playoffs with what they have coming back and Denver has to assume the young guys they have will be better for a team that was already 9-7.

Minnesota lost their starter right before the season, so probably felt they had zero chance of the playoffs without making some sort of desperate move.

I probably didn't do a good job of making my prior point because I am on and offline all day at work. I will try to do a better job of explaining my thought process.

First off I acknowledge your line of thinking and will say that it is a reasonable thought process. I understand how a reasonable person could argue that Minnesota was more behind the 8 ball because of the timing of Teddy's injury.

I don't really subscribe to that being all that important of a factor. I do agree that the Vikings went from having a QB they thought could get it done to not having one. But right now, arguably, both Houston and Denver are in that same boat.

Arguably both Denver and Houston are actually worse off than Minnesota because both of them actually probably have more dominant defenses than Minnesota and the opportunity afforded by both will close eventually. An example of this is Ware's likely departure from Denver and Denver lost a couple of significant role players last year too.

Both teams have an opportunity go get over the jump with Romo in a way that Minnesota was wishfully thinking it did. Both of them have a much stronger case to go all in on Romo in a way that Minnesota THOUGHT that they should.

It has worked before in Denver with Manning so they shouldn't be all that risk averse to signing Romo. Moreover Houston has never had a taste of the Super Bowl, so they are supremely motivated to get there. I personally know the fans are starving for a taste of it because I used to go to the games because my ex-girlfriend had season tickets.

Anyway that's my thinking on it. I know two reasonable people can look at the same facts and draw a different conclusion and both have valid points of view.

I know what my opinion on it is. I hope the Cowboys take the same view I do and if it turns out to be in error it hasn't really cost them anything. But if they give Romo away for some magic beans or cut him outright and there was a real market for him and everyone bluffed Jerry out of pocket aces then we have squandered a fantastic opportunity.

One more thing about those who believe that the cap space is worth releasing Romo by itself..... I think you guys are missing the boat. We are already constrained by the cap and have been for the better part of 20 plus years. We pissed off the benefit of cheap Romo labor early on. What makes any of you think that that alone is going to make a real difference, or said differently... more difference than having a QB as good as Romo is on the roster.

We have done a pretty good job of acquiring talent, but we have really been pretty poor at getting great value with our cap. I am sure we could put the extra cap space to good use by extending Dez and paying him even more per year. Sorry about the sarcasm of the prior sentence, but I just can't help myself sometimes. Ha ha ha.
 

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We should get whatever we can...if anything. Two sides to that equation, and Romo makes up half of it. He can and will retire if his only option is to play somewhere where he doesn't want to play. All veterans can say that at some point. retirement is not illegal...and is almost expected when you played for a long time with so many injuries.

I GUESS that it goes like this on his "list":

1) List of Teams that he wants to play for and are contenders
2) List of Teams that he less excited about but could be in the playoffs if all went well

BIG GAP

3) Maybe dallas as a backup...maybe
4) RETIREMENT...spend time with family, enjoy life and new kid, live to walk when he's older,,,lol


GAP

5) list all teams that he does not want to play for. He's had a good career. Nobody can force him or any player to play if they don't want to.


In other words. A team could offer 10 1st rounders and it makes zero difference if they are on list #5. Not only that, going to a team that gives up so much further weakens the team you're going to.

Buffalo is either in #2 or #5...I have no idea.


I think that's probably a pretty fair guess as to the general situation.
 

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I have no idea but if Buffalo offers us a lucrative package of picks you don't say no because Romo anything.
Funny thing is Buffalo is a much better situation for Romo then Denver. Its not even close IMO. People look at Denver 2015. This is not the same team. This is a team that is going to be speeding to a rebuild. They have no line, no running game, they are slowly bleeding D talent in FA and lost Wade Phillips. Buffalo has a solid line, and elite HB, young talented WR's. And tons of defensive talented that was miscast in Ryan's system. McDermotts systems is much more suitable to the talent they have. Also a run heavy offense. In Buffalo he will throw maybe 450 passes. In Denver they will ask him to throw 550+ with no OL lr running game
 

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We should get whatever we can...if anything. Two sides to that equation, and Romo makes up half of it. He can and will retire if his only option is to play somewhere where he doesn't want to play. All veterans can say that at some point. retirement is not illegal...and is almost expected when you played for a long time with so many injuries.

I GUESS that it goes like this on his "list":

1) List of Teams that he wants to play for and are contenders
2) List of Teams that he less excited about but could be in the playoffs if all went well

BIG GAP

3) Maybe dallas as a backup...maybe
4) RETIREMENT...spend time with family, enjoy life and new kid, live to walk when he's older,,,lol


GAP

5) list all teams that he does not want to play for. He's had a good career. Nobody can force him or any player to play if they don't want to.


In other words. A team could offer 10 1st rounders and it makes zero difference if they are on list #5. Not only that, going to a team that gives up so much further weakens the team you're going to.

Buffalo is either in #2 or #5...I have no idea.

I do think it is fair to point out that Romo only has real control of one element and that is retirement. He has no control over any of the others.
 

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If I don't get anything right now for Romo I keep him. Teams QBs will get hurt. Happens all the time. And then we will pull a deal like the Eagles did with Bradford.
 

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You don't think that Denver and Houston are in the same situation as Minnesota was last year when they acquired Bradford?
Not even close. Light years difference.

Minnesota lost Bridgewater the week before the season opener.

Last time I checked, we are still in the first week of March.
 

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Funny thing is Buffalo is a much better situation for Romo then Denver. Its not even close IMO. People look at Denver 2015. This is not the same team. This is a team that is going to be speeding to a rebuild. They have no line, no running game, they are slowly bleeding D talent in FA and lost Wade Phillips. Buffalo has a solid line, and elite HB, young talented WR's. And tons of defensive talented that was miscast in Ryan's system. McDermotts systems is much more suitable to the talent they have. Also a run heavy offense. In Buffalo he will throw maybe 450 passes. In Denver they will ask him to throw 550+ with no OL lr running game


That's a fair assessment.
 

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Funny thing is Buffalo is a much better situation for Romo then Denver. Its not even close IMO. People look at Denver 2015. This is not the same team. This is a team that is going to be speeding to a rebuild. They have no line, no running game, they are slowly bleeding D talent in FA and lost Wade Phillips. Buffalo has a solid line, and elite HB, young talented WR's. And tons of defensive talented that was miscast in Ryan's system. McDermotts systems is much more suitable to the talent they have. Also a run heavy offense. In Buffalo he will throw maybe 450 passes. In Denver they will ask him to throw 550+ with no OL lr running game

And he wants to go to Denver. I think he just wants a chance to compete.
 

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I do think it is fair to point out that Romo only has real control of one element and that is retirement. He has no control over any of the others.
If you completely throw away his relationship with Jerry, that's mostly true. Jerry just said today that Tony has as much say in this as he does.
He also has a say on if he'd redo his contract for one team vs another.
 

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There's been conflicting reports as to Denver's interest in Romo. Haven't heard Elway come right out and say he's interested.

Why would he exactly?
His team is too close not too. They aren't winning a Super Bowl with who they have today.
 

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Just read an article on Shutdown Corner where Broncos beat writer, Miles Klis, reported that the Broncos would be interested in pursuing Romo intently if he is released. I would like as we all would, want something in return before I would release him. I would keep him if there is no trade for him. Competition could be a good thing.
 

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Just read an article on Shutdown Corner where Broncos beat writer, Miles Klis, reported that the Broncos would be interested in pursuing Romo intently if he is released. I would like as we all would, want something in return before I would release him. I would keep him if there is no trade for him. Competition could be a good thing.
Well, if they actually let him fairly compete, he too would want to stay.
They do not want that. Even if they think think (or even know) Romo is better, they loved what they saw in Dak, see him as the present and future, as reliable health-wise, as a player who's arrow is pointing up.
 
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