The new Official Greg Hardy legal/ethics/morality/suspension thread

[Nightman]

Well apparently Greg Hardy and his defense at the trial stated that she did all of the above to her self. So I am asking what you would believe. Actually I was asking McLovin what he believes so I don't even understand how you got into this conversation.

Use PM if you want a personal convo.

 

[Zekeats]

Money-grubbing hoes preserve you know what from condoms to get pregnant secretly so they can get pay checks from athletes... Women lie about who their baby's father all the time.

She admitted she was drunk. Didn't she? You seem to be avoiding the point. There were witnesses at the time..

You got it. And he was sober and just reading a book when out of the blue she started throwing herself around the apartment then choked herself and all this other stuff that was pre-rehearsed and carried out while she was drunk and stoned. WOW, some imagination you got.

 

[NeonNinja]

Well apparently Greg Hardy and his defense at the trial stated that she did all of the above to her self. So I am asking what you would believe. Actually I was asking McLovin what he believes so I don't even understand how you got into this conversation.

If you want to talk to only him then take it to PM.

 

[burmafrd]

You got it. And he was sober and just reading a book when out of the blue she started throwing herself around the apartment then choked herself and all this other stuff that was pre-rehearsed and carried out while she was drunk and stoned. WOW, some imagination you got.

physical evidence dude. Where was a doctors report? Where was supposedly evidence that this all happened?

 

[Zekeats]

1. Motive
2. Report of injuries
3. Arrest
4. Conviction
5. The payoff
6. The no show
7. 1 NFL team interested in signing him

 

[Zekeats]

physical evidence dude. Where was a doctors report? Where was supposedly evidence that this all happened?

Oh my god....your a little late to the party. I don't want to go through EVERYTHING AGAIN for another one.....go back and read

 

[burmafrd]

1. Motive
2. Report of injuries
3. Arrest
4. Conviction
5. The payoff
6. The no show
7. 1 NFL team interested in signing him

where is this fictious report of injuries? And was it backed up by a non existent doctor?

 

[TheDude]

She made up a story that he ripped her necklace off of her and tried to flush it down the toilet and when she went to retrieve it he slammed the toilet seat on her arm? Then she repeatedly yelled at him do you want to break my arm? You got it, she made up the whole thing while high on coke. Can't believe the judge didn't see threw her fake story.

I had a friend in Charlotte going through a divorce and custody battle. He said his wife was acting awfully odd about calling all day about what time he was coming home to pick up the child. He asked me to come back to the house with him. I stayed in the doorway between the garage and kitchen when he said "What happened???? (in horror). She said "You cant get joint custody from jail". calls the cops. He then told her I was with him. She had scratched and slapped her face to blood marks. Cops came, she had to leve the house and he got full custody.


I am willing to believe that this is not an everyday occurrence with women - but I also know that they are all not angels and many are calculated. Like sam kinison said, men will lie more and about small stuff in relationships, but when women lie it's a doozy like "I didnt pack that gun in your suitcase for your plane trip"

 

[khiladi]

You got it. And he was sober and just reading a book when out of the blue she started throwing herself around the apartment then choked herself and all this other stuff that was pre-rehearsed and carried out while she was drunk and stoned. WOW, some imagination you got.

The independent witness reported her drunk on the 9-11 transcript. Why do you keep ignoring the witness 9-11 transcripts?

you know the 9-11 call that Hardy initiated and spoke rather coherently.

 

[Kaiser]

You got it. And he was sober and just reading a book when out of the blue she started throwing herself around the apartment then choked herself and all this other stuff that was pre-rehearsed and carried out while she was drunk and stoned. WOW, some imagination you got.

She went berzerk several days before that incident and broke a toenail kicking his car before security removed her. Hardy also testified at the bench trial that she told him that night he need to pay her rent that night and he didn't do it, which was part of the reason she went nuts. She also admitted to being on coke that night so "reasonable state of mind" isn't really in play.

 

[Zekeats]

I had a friend in Charlotte going through a divorce and custody battle. He said his wife was acting awfully odd about calling all day about what time he was coming home to pick up the child. He asked me to come back to the house with him. I stayed in the doorway between the garage and kitchen when he said "What happened???? (in horror). She said "You cant get joint custody from jail". calls the cops. He then told her I was with him. She had scratched and slapped her face to blood marks. Cops came, she had to leve the house and he got full custody.


I am willing to believe that this is not an everyday occurrence with women - but I also know that they are all not angels and many are calculated. Like sam kinison said, men will lie more and about small stuff in relationships, but when women lie it's a doozy like "I didnt pack that gun in your suitcase for your plane trip"

So maybe you lean a certain way because you have seen it in real life. I asked you, do you believe she did it to herself?

 

[Dale]

I don't know. I don't really care about Greg Hardy. I don't think he's a great person. From everything I've heard it sounds like he's an awful person. But I'll root for him in the fall because I'm a Cowboy fan. But just like Pacman, I'll have a short leash with him. If he acts up I won't hesitate to say that he should go no matter what he does on the field.

I'm in the same boat. There have been a lot of players on the roster over the years that I've felt uneasy about rooting for. Josh Brent, frankly, is among them. Greg Hardy joins the list.

But he's on the team, and I hope he's able to get to the QB and stay out of trouble.

Here's the rub. You can thank the salary cap for a move like this. The cap, in good part, forced us to cut ultimate-good-guy DeMarcus Ware. A year later, we've found his replacement -- a player we could afford only because of his off-the-field issues.

 

[Zekeats]

The independent witness reported her drunk on the 9-11 transcript. Why do you keep ignoring the witness 9-11 transcripts?

you know the 9-11 call that Hardy initiated and spoke rather coherently.

Rather coherently? Go back and listen/read again.....LOL
And I don't know why it matters if she was drunk and I never said she wasn't. Actually I acknowledge many times that she was stoned.....but that still does not mean that she didn't get beaten.

 

[Kaiser]

physical evidence dude. Where was a doctors report? Where was supposedly evidence that this all happened?

Some of the reporters at the Bench Trial in the live tweet coverage Fuzzy mentioned described the pictures in her injuries as "redness" and "scratches".

In her sworn statement to police her exact words were these:

"Hardy picked me up and threw me into the tile tub area in his bathroom. I have bruises from head to toe, including my head, neck, back, shoulders, arms, legs, elbow and feet"

In the sworn document she filed for a restraining order she said that Hardy picked her up over his head and threw her.

Its hard, if not impossible, to reconcile all those things.

 

[Zekeats]

She went berzerk several days before that incident and broke a toenail kicking his car before security removed her. Hardy also testified at the bench trial that she told him that night he need to pay her rent that night and he didn't do it, which was part of the reason she went nuts. She also admitted to being on coke that night so "reasonable state of mind" isn't really in play.

And yet there they were, back together at a club hanging out and going back to his place right after this incident

 

[khiladi]

The worst part about it is these type of incidents take the focus away from Goodell and his scape-goating. There is NO WAY that Goodell didn't see the tapes of Ray Rice when he laid down the four game suspension originally.

If he is making players take the fall
for perception, the owners should do the same thing for him.

 

[Nightman]

 

[khiladi]

And yet there they were, back together at a club hanging out and going back to his place right after this incident

Yep, crazy hoes... But according to you, girls are made of sugar and spice apparently.

This is the same girl who said she had a 'short' fling with Nelly in-between..

 

[Kaiser]

I had a friend in Charlotte going through a divorce and custody battle. He said his wife was acting awfully odd about calling all day about what time he was coming home to pick up the child. He asked me to come back to the house with him. I stayed in the doorway between the garage and kitchen when he said "What happened???? (in horror). She said "You cant get joint custody from jail". calls the cops. He then told her I was with him. She had scratched and slapped her face to blood marks. Cops came, she had to leve the house and he got full custody.

Your friend is lucky, I have a friend here in LA that is a cop and his ex wife is a cop. He found out she was cheating on him and the next day she cleaned out their bank accounts and filed a report that he had sexually abused their two kids. He spent years fighting for custody and only got very limited custody after he was cleared.

 

[Kaiser]

And yet there they were, back together at a club hanging out and going back to his place right after this incident

I'm not going to hire Hardy to do my taxes. My point is that you are painting the girl as a victim with no motive and there is a mountain of evidence that she isn't.