The next guy who blames T.O

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Maikeru-sama;2540050 said:
QFT

The guy is still a good player and a playmaker but the Dallas Cowboys would be just fine with or without Terrell Owens and to believe otherwise is just plain foolish.

The main reason most bought into bringing Roy Williams aboard is that he could eventually replace Terrell Owens.

I would love to see Miles Austin get alot more playing time and that is never going to happen with Terrell Owens and Roy Williams on this team.

Call me foolish then.

The problems on this team started with the offensive line which was atrocious. The latter handicaps everything. An extra second here or there would provide the most potent offense in the league with Romo, TO, Roy, Witten, Crayton, Austin, Barber, Jones, and Choice.
 

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Also let me say that I'm really disappointed in this thread. I expected a real verbal beatdown, or blow up, at the next person who bad mouthed TO and all we got was a little school yard "Girl, no you didn't" type of response.
 

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It's called Chemistry. And unfortunately ,whether you want to believe it or not
we don't have it .

I leave it up to you who's to blame.

I've got my ideas, but I don't want some here to off.:)
 

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CaptainAmerica;2539670 said:
The defenders of tO act like that everything there is to know about what has gone on in the lockerroom with him is what we know as public information.

Can't we understand that there is a TON of behind the scenes information that the media nd others know that is "off the record" that they can't go public with, but that information contributes to this universal condemnation of TO by every one who knows anything about building a team atmosphere.

I'm not ragging on TO, because i doubt he's totally to blame, but I do believe there is a TON of stuff out there that's being discussed about the polarization he has brought to this team that we know nothing about.

Is it a coincidence that the team chemistry blows up the very season Jerry commited so much to him financially and basically took him off "contractual probation"?

I don't have the answers but there is something seriously wrong with the lockerrom of this team and MAJOR changes must be made or we will see this same stuff early and often next season.

Are you serious? You think the media would withhold negative information on Terrell Owens if they had it?

There are ESPN reports of what Owens had for breakfast this morning. There isn't a more scrutinized man in America.

It's also extremely naive to think that one player is going to "polarize" a 53 man locker room...a locker room where the offense and defense are split up most of the time and have little contact with one another.

And considering the vast number of player friends Owens has...and the numerous glimpses of Owens screwing around with nearly every player on the team, and then some of the towel boys on Hard Knocks...you're not really in touch with reality if you buy into the sensationalized portrayal.
 

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bbgun;2539210 said:
Hi-larious. No, winning is incidental. His touches are the highest priority, as we found out after the Bengals game--a game that we won but still left him pouting like the narcissistic brat that he is.

You mean when Owens cried because a family member had died during the week?

This is further proof that you have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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Owens is the easy target, that's the reason for it. When things don't go right it's easy to point out every little mistake about the guy that has had problems in the past and the guy certain fans will never like. It's certainly easier to just blame him than face the possibility that we have a QB that is not capable of winning a big game (not only winning, but is incapable of not throwing it away) and we have a co-ordinator who doesn't change his game plan.

The big problem is not Owens, however the biggest target is him.
 
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Oh brother, not this again. The only point i will destroy is the one that TO cant beat a FREAKING JAM, or double coverage.




You gotta be kidding me. Does anybody remember the first Eagle game when TO DARED Jim Johnson to put him one on one with the Eagles corners and the safety Mikell said that would be stupid because TO is one of th best in the league and demands a double team. You haters remember that? Do you remember how he beat the double coverage in that first Eagle game when Romo actually had decent time? Of course you dont.


As for beating a jam at the LOS. Just because you see TO getting hit at the LOS and not getting away cleanly doesn't mean he can't beat a jam. It means what Troy Aikman and John Madden point out everytime they do a Cowboy game. Safety help! Any cornerback in the NFL can put a crazy hard jam on a reciever when they have safety help. I swear you 40 year old pot belly non athletic haters on this site have no clue about football to actually think any cornerback in the NFL would even think about jamming TO at the LOS without safety help. Thats insanity, but when you hate somebody as much as people in this thread hate TO its understandable. Just shut your mouths when you dont know what the hell you're talking about.
 

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lewpac;2539024 said:
I'm really going to go OFF and let him have it.
Laced throughout this forum, you can't escape it.
It's the easy target, chicken-crap, no courage, no thinking, scapegoat thing to say.
"Oh, Dallas didn't live up to expectations? Get rid of T.O."
"Oh, the slightest thing wrong? Get rid of T.O."
"Traffic light out in Fort Worth? Get rid of T.O."
"Hurricane passes through Texas? Get rid of T.O."

It's what all the idiot pundits and T.V. talking heads resort to anytime there's a hangnail or nose bleed in Dallas. "Get rid of T.O." The same yappers who so many of you despise for their anti-Dallas sentiments. It takes NO courage to "blame T.O.", because it's safe and you know that nobody will challenge you. It's like telling jokes about white, Christian males, because you know that no one will challenge you on it because it's the "in vogue" and acceptable thing to do.

The only sin T.O. has committed in Dallas is maybe, only because he wants to win so much, that he airs out his thinking in public. But even THAT has been minimal. His reputation precedes him, so he's got to bear the brunt of that. Even though he was right about everything he said in Philly, his way of going about it ruffled alot of feathers.
He's never committed a crime. Never been suspended (by the league) for anything. Stays in maximum shape year round. And wants to win so badly that maybe his mouth runs before his brain realizes it's moving.
If this team had another 40 T.O.'s on it, we wouldn't be in this position.
This team has three major problems, and T.O. isn't one of them.
Jerry Jones meddling and domineering.
Bad and uninspired coaching (see "Jerry's meddling above) resulting in undisciplined and stupid play.
And finally, Romo needs to be "Holmgrenized".

That's it. Three things. T.O. is NOT the problem in Dallas, and I'm sick of hearing it.

OK OK OK, its obvious there are two groups of fans. Those who want TO on the team and those that don't. Can't we just do a poll and see what the forum thinks? Or better yet, can we just put a sig on our postings on whether TO should stay or go? I'm tired of talking about TO and his pros and cons.

My opinion, TO should definitely go. I really can't see how any one can defend him. Just really can't see how any one in their right man can defend him. I put this season's disaster mainly on him. That's how much I think he is the main problem.
 

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Haha... days after a loss in which it appeared the majority of our team didn't care about winning...

And some fans are calling for the firing of one of our best players who cares TOO much, if anything.

Talk about irony. Boy, that media is powerful.
 

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TO needs to go. For reasons not worth posting again.

I don't blame him for anything (i blame the three clowns jerry, wade & jason) but he needs to go nonetheless.

lewpac;2539024 said:
I'm really going to go OFF and let him have it.
Laced throughout this forum, you can't escape it.
It's the easy target, chicken-crap, no courage, no thinking, scapegoat thing to say.
"Oh, Dallas didn't live up to expectations? Get rid of T.O."
"Oh, the slightest thing wrong? Get rid of T.O."
"Traffic light out in Fort Worth? Get rid of T.O."
"Hurricane passes through Texas? Get rid of T.O."

It's what all the idiot pundits and T.V. talking heads resort to anytime there's a hangnail or nose bleed in Dallas. "Get rid of T.O." The same yappers who so many of you despise for their anti-Dallas sentiments. It takes NO courage to "blame T.O.", because it's safe and you know that nobody will challenge you. It's like telling jokes about white, Christian males, because you know that no one will challenge you on it because it's the "in vogue" and acceptable thing to do.

The only sin T.O. has committed in Dallas is maybe, only because he wants to win so much, that he airs out his thinking in public. But even THAT has been minimal. His reputation precedes him, so he's got to bear the brunt of that. Even though he was right about everything he said in Philly, his way of going about it ruffled alot of feathers.
He's never committed a crime. Never been suspended (by the league) for anything. Stays in maximum shape year round. And wants to win so badly that maybe his mouth runs before his brain realizes it's moving.
If this team had another 40 T.O.'s on it, we wouldn't be in this position.
This team has three major problems, and T.O. isn't one of them.
Jerry Jones meddling and domineering.
Bad and uninspired coaching (see "Jerry's meddling above) resulting in undisciplined and stupid play.
And finally, Romo needs to be "Holmgrenized".

That's it. Three things. T.O. is NOT the problem in Dallas, and I'm sick of hearing it.
 

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there is many and i mean MANY problems on this team but T.O is not one of them. sure i would love for him to keep his mouth shut more often but you know what i will never turn on a player that works hard and wants to win!
 

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Nav22;2543589 said:
Haha... days after a loss in which it appeared the majority of our team didn't care about winning...

And some fans are calling for the firing of one of our best players who cares TOO much, if anything.

Talk about irony. Boy, that media is powerful.

It's just funny to me how any time something goes wrong, Terrell Owens comes up in the blame game, even when he had absolutely nothing to do with the actual loss.

It really is as ridiculous as "the Devil made me do it."
 

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It's not even a debate - T.O. is not going anywhere for at least contractural reasons. His bonus money would all come forward to this season and screw up our cap. It would make it impossible to re-sign Demarcus Ware.

He's also one of the most favorite players on the team of all the teammates.

He also is one of the most vocal on the sidelines trying to get his team giving it its all.

He aslo is a playmaker and imperative to winning as many games as possible.

Quit drinking the ESPN Kool-Aid and open your eyes people. You've been duped.
 

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Rampage;2539139 said:
just so you don't get too defensive(i know you t.o. fanboys get real upset) like i said i want his buddies tank and pacman gone too. now on to Owens

#1 he talks too much whether it's negative or positive

#2 he threw his qbs under the bus with his "i can't throw it and catch it myself" comment publicly

#3 he threw his coaches(oc) under the bus publicly

#4 he drops too many passes for a "#1 wr"

#5 he has stunted Romo's growth as a qb and our team with us trying to force the ball to him due to reason #6

#6 he complains about getting passes too much including after getting 18 passes thrown to him in the 1st skins game(that we lost)

#7 guy is a 220 pound muscle freak but has major trouble getting off of jams by 185 pound cornerbacks

#8 even if it was made up drama(the him/romo/witten thing) it was in the media because of him. they don't do that with any other wr.

more to come if you would like.

Great post. :)
 

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TO sucks.

Jerry Jones sucks.

Wade Phillips does not suck, BUT also is not a good fit for this team.

Pacman Jones sucks.

And now, my favorite team, the Dallas Cowboys, sucks and has turned into the BIGGEST JOKE in the NFL as of today and is an embarrassment to 'The Star'.

Thanks Jerrah!
 

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you still have yet to see what T.O. can, and WILL, do as he continues to struggle with accepting his game is on the decline and his presence/importance/influence on his team is less powerful than it once was.
 

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tyke1doe;2539174 said:
But somehow our fans can't get it through their thick skills how this can impact a team or establish a culture for a team.
They understood it and screamed it from the mountain tops when he was in SF and Philly. Now? Not so much.
 

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You don't have to blame TO to not desire him on the team anymore. We have weapons to spread around, he wants it all the time. That is fine in and of itself but it isn't the only thing. He throws coach and quarterback under the bus to help protect this image he has of himself. You call that leadership, I call it cowardly.

As a collective whole, this entire team showed how they play when the chips are down and they have their backs against the wall. They showed that not a single one is a leader. Great players but no leaders. They showed their heart last season and we didn't want to see it so they showed it again this season. I am more disappointed in this Cowboys team than I was our 5-11 teams because we had to fight for those 5 wins. This team has a lot more wrong with it than TO... but that doesn't mean I would want him back if the cap allowed for it.
 

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Rampage;2539043 said:
T.O. brings too many distractions to this team and it's qb. jerry should cut ties with the attention drawers in tank,pacman and owens.

Sooooo i guess the teams in the 70's and 90's had no distractions? How do you read this post and then come with such a lame *** reaply. Its way to easy to blame T.O., the blame needs to go 1) the Coaches, 2) Romo. Why are we handling Romo with kid gloves? Three year's in a row Romo has come up weak in the playoff's and or game's we need (i.e. win and your in)!!!!!!All that said, Tony Romo is our guy. We love him so lets treat him like a Cowboy QB we want hin to be, but first off lets treat him like a man needs to be. When the team does well who gets the credit? But when the team does poor, lets give him the credit and hold his *** to the fire just like you do T.O.
 

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Velvet Jones;2543810 said:
You don't have to blame TO to not desire him on the team anymore. We have weapons to spread around, he wants it all the time. That is fine in and of itself but it isn't the only thing. He throws coach and quarterback under the bus to help protect this image he has of himself. You call that leadership, I call it cowardly.

As a collective whole, this entire team showed how they play when the chips are down and they have their backs against the wall. They showed that not a single one is a leader. Great players but no leaders. They showed their heart last season and we didn't want to see it so they showed it again this season. I am more disappointed in this Cowboys team than I was our 5-11 teams because we had to fight for those 5 wins. This team has a lot more wrong with it than TO... but that doesn't mean I would want him back if the cap allowed for it.

Question, when has he thrown Romo under the bus?
 
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