WV Cowboy;4617731 said:
From the time this story broke, .. common sense told us that these guys had to know early on.
Now there is a paper trail, and we know for certain.
Hard to imagine anyone could ever turn their back on a child going through this sort of thing, .. no matter what was at stake.
Simply gets more and more sick all the time.
Though this really shouldn't come as a suprise to the vast majority of people. It was pretty obvious that many people within that university knew far more than they were letting on.
MichaelWinicki;4618073 said:
The report seems to put forth the point that Joe did know about the 1998 incident and investigation. The man knew who farted on campus, there's no way he didn't know about that incident.
And while the report could not connect Sandusky's unexpected retirement and his retirement "bonus" to the 1998 incident that doesn't mean that there isn't or wasn't a connection either. PSU could have simply buried it so deep that it couldn't be found.
I know his biggest fans are going to go to their graves beleiving he didn't know what was going on and that's fine. If I had any sort of close relationship with the guy I most likely wouldn't want to be believe he did so little to help stop the monster that is Sandusky.
Truly a very sad situation and ultimately it's going to be one of those things where half the people who remember his name will remember him more for this scandal than anything else he ever did.
Cajuncowboy;4618105 said:
Funny picture.
Applies to both sides. I really don't care how you want to spin it, or explain it, or deny it. The guy knew at the very least about 1 instance and did as little as humanly possible about it.
That in and of itself is enough without him having any other knowledge or anything else. But this notion that the most powerful man within the football program was the only guy that didn't know what was going on here while the President and AD and others did?
Sorry. I'm not buying that bunk.
It's truly sad because everyone knows that Joe did a ton of great things in his life, and I'm not talking about football here, and helped so many but it's his lack of action here, and his lack of character and judgement in this situation, that will be remembered far more.
You can never do enough good deeds, enough great things for others, and have that be remembered most if you act so little, and so thoughtlessly, in a situation like this.
How the man was able to live with himself for 14 years knowing he did what amounts to absolutely nothing is beyond me.
RoyTheHammer;4618377 said:
Did the report say that he knew about all the victims or just the incident of something happening in 98 that was investigated by local and state officials and no charges were brought against Sandusky for?
Do i believe that Joe knew about the incident in 98? Sure do.
Do i believe Joe knew the extent of this situation and about all the rest of the victims and just let it continue to happen? Only a fool would believe that.
Why is he any less human than the rest of the people at PSU that obviously made very stupid mistakes in this case? How is that he's the only one that it's not at all possible with?
Sorry but I just don't buy that the most powerful guy in the football program had no knowledge or input in this situation no matter how good a person he was in every other aspect of his lifetime.
silverbear;4618749 said:
I'm deeply saddened by what's happening to Paterno's reputation, but if I witness an act of child abuse, I'm not gonna rely on others to report it... I'm picking up the phone and calling the police...
Paterno should have done the same, period...
With out any doubt. He should have made dang sure something was being done about that his legacy, PSU legacy, and football be damned.
That didn't happen.
RoyTheHammer;4618759 said:
Im not that concerned with Joe's public reputation to be honest. He made a mistake, no two ways about it. We agree, as do most, as well as his family.
The crap im sick of is this mob mentality where everyone seems less focused on the things that should actually matter, and more focused on casting their individual stone at Joe's reputation or legacy or whatever the media is calling it right now.
At the end of the day.. who really cares what the general public thinks about Joe or his "legacy"? We're such a *** up society right now, i don't think he'd care one bit, and he shouldn't.
The "legacy" he'll leave, will live on in the hearts of every single person he directly or indirectly helped, mentored, tutored, or aided for over 60 years of his life that he spent devoted to the university and the people he loved so much. Ultimately, that may be the cause of his poor judgement in this situation, but it doesn't change the fact that he positively affected the lives of thousands during his time on this earth. We all make mistakes and carry sins with us, and he made his, but overall the things he did for those around him far outweigh what most of us do to help our fellow man. The media builds him up to be a "God" like figure, and then they are the first to try and rip him down.. not suprising. Not suprising that so many eat it up either.
I never made him to be a God. Anyone who does that has a lot more issues then blindly following a football coach as the greatest person to ever live or something.
He did a great many things in his lifetime that were amazing. It's a shame that he chose to do so little in a situation of this magnitude where some seriously terrible tragedy's could have been avoided.
