The Wade Phillips Bandwagon?

[CowboyMcCoy]

I'm pulling for him. I would rather win then have to go through yet another HC and a rebuilding process with the team learning a whole new system both offense and defensively.

I am too. I love the guy. I just think it's because of his demeanor and "aw shucks" attitude in front of the media. He's a good guy. You don't have to be clinching your teeth like Gruden or Cower to get your point across as a coach. What he does is win. And logic would tell you if he can win during the regular season, he can win during the post season. For now, I just want to see him keep winning during the regular season. Amazing things happen in football. Just look at the 2007 Super Bowl. Yet no one would say BB is a bad head coach.

You said it best, people get too concerned with style over substance and I like Wade's substance. So far, he's getting it done and we never had a 13-3 record with Parcells here. In fact, Parcells' stubborn demeanor cost us a chance to go farther into the playoffs when he refused to let someone else be the FG holder. It was a bad snap, but Tony's focus should have never been on taking the snap and holding for the kicker. That was one of the worst coaching decisions I've ever witnessed.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Please, don't embarrass yourself here. Parcells took a talentless 15-33 team into a 2 time playoff contender over 4 years. He rebuilt this team and set up a framework for success. Wade just stepped in **** inheriting one of the most talented teams in the NFL and couldn't get them ready for one home playoff game. I'm not a huge Parcells fan personally, but to compare the two without regard to the circumstances that they inherited is disingenuous.

But if you're going to knock Wade for not winning a playoff game, then the same goes for Parcells. So now tell me where I'm embarrassing myself again. Wade did wonders with San Diego, too. Don't forget this Cowboys' team isn't his first rodeo, and he's added new additions such as Jenkins, Brooking, Butler, G. Sense etc. So this is still Parcells' team, according to you. That's ridiculous. Oh, and, how is Parcells doing now?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

We need to photo shop a pic with all those who are on the bandwagon. That would be cool for my new sig. I'm supporting this guy. I think he deserves it.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Im not on the Wade bandwagon.

The D almost jumped on McNabbs bluff.

He took 20 seconds to call a TO at the end of the half, if we had that time back we still have the run option. Possible 4 point screw up

Dumb challenge.

Wins dont mean great coaching.

 

[pugilist]

it's sad that there even is one

 

[superpunk]

Not.

As a head coach, I feel that we win in spite of him. He makes crazy decisions, he looks bewildered half the time, and maybe that's because he's got too much on his plate as head coach/defensive coordinator.

But he's a hell of a defensive coordinator. So we'll miss that.

 

[Doomsday101]

Not.

As a head coach, I feel that we win in spite of him. He makes crazy decisions, he looks bewildered half the time, and maybe that's because he's got too much on his plate as head coach/defensive coordinator.

But he's a hell of a defensive coordinator. So we'll miss that.

Why where is he going? I think he has to have some success but I don't see Jerry in a big rush to fire Wade if this team can progress into the post season.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

But if you're going to knock Wade for not winning a playoff game, then the same goes for Parcells. So now tell me where I'm embarrassing myself again. Wade did wonders with San Diego, too. Don't forget this Cowboys' team isn't his first rodeo, and he's added new additions such as Jenkins, Brooking, Butler, G. Sense etc. So this is still Parcells' team, according to you. That's ridiculous. Oh, and, how is Parcells doing now?

Parcells won two Super Bowl rings with the Giants, defeating the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XXI and the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXV. He also led the New England Patriots to Super Bowl XXXI and the New York Jets to the 1998 AFC Championship Game. He announced his third retirement from football on January 22, 2007 before returning to the sport later that year in a management position with the Dolphins.

Wade Allen Phillips (born June 21, 1947 in Orange, Texas) is the head coach for the National Football League's Dallas Cowboys. He is also a former head coach of the New Orleans Saints, where his record was 1–3, the Denver Broncos, where his record was 16–17, the Buffalo Bills, where he was 29-21 and led the Bills to the playoffs in two of three seasons, and the Atlanta Falcons where he posted a 2-1 mark. His career winning percentage as a head coach is .596.

No comparison. Bill and Jerry worked well enough together long enough to hand Wade a pretty good ball club. I have doubts that Wade and Jerry are working as close. I would bet Jerry doesn't pay as close attention as a whole
to Phillips as he did Parcells.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Why where is he going? I think he has to have some success but I don't see Jerry in a big rush to fire Wade if this team can progress into the post season.

This year has Garrett apprenticeship written all over it.
Barring a SB win. Even then Wade might step down to "Spend time w/ his family"

 

[Doomsday101]

This year has Garrett apprenticeship written all over it.
Barring a SB win. Even then Wade might step down to "Spend time w/ his family"

That is your opinion Jones has not said anything like that and Wade has said nothing close to wanting to step down.

 

[cowboyed]

no

I think the team is rallying around themselves in spite of Wade

although I believe his family atmosphere had something to do with it

He can eat corn on a cob through a picket fence.

 

[DFWJC]

Im not on the Wade bandwagon.

The D almost jumped on McNabbs bluff.

He took 20 seconds to call a TO at the end of the half, if we had that time back we still have the run option. Possible 4 point screw up

Dumb challenge.

Wins dont mean great coaching.

Then losses (in or out of the playoffs) don't either I guess.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Then losses (in or out of the playoffs) don't either I guess.

Depends on the game. I think Garrett butchered the Giants game, Wade was ok. The Denver game turned w/ the fumble/TD. Then Wades D blew it late. Then I think Garrett screwed up the potential tying TD by going @ Champ covering his 7th or 8th best weapon.

So Im not completely sold on Garrett as HC just yet

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Parcells won two Super Bowl rings with the Giants, defeating the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XXI and the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXV. He also led the New England Patriots to Super Bowl XXXI and the New York Jets to the 1998 AFC Championship Game. He announced his third retirement from football on January 22, 2007 before returning to the sport later that year in a management position with the Dolphins.

Wade Allen Phillips (born June 21, 1947 in Orange, Texas) is the head coach for the National Football League's Dallas Cowboys. He is also a former head coach of the New Orleans Saints, where his record was 1–3, the Denver Broncos, where his record was 16–17, the Buffalo Bills, where he was 29-21 and led the Bills to the playoffs in two of three seasons, and the Atlanta Falcons where he posted a 2-1 mark. His career winning percentage as a head coach is .596.

No comparison. Bill and Jerry worked well enough together long enough to hand Wade a pretty good ball club. I have doubts that Wade and Jerry are working as close. I would bet Jerry doesn't pay as close attention as a whole
to Phillips as he did Parcells.

There is, and there isn't, a comparison with the Cowboys. You're talking about different teams, with different personnel so the comparison there isn't valid, imo. Talent levels differ. I concede Wade has more talent than did BP, but he's also putting up better regular season records than did Parcells (at this point).

So, I see your point. But there is no way to make a truly fair comparison because each coach coached different players with teams that faced different schedules as well as overall circumstances.

If I had to pick between the two at this point, I go with Wade. I know I'm in the minority, but that's how I feel. I have confidence in him at this point. He's not as stubborn as Parcells and seems to be more up to speed in today's NFL, whereas Parcells seemed to be hung up in the olden days, with his outdated beliefs and schemes.

I'd say both are equally good at assessing talent and coaching defense. I put Wade over Parcells because he seems open-minded and isn't deluded by old school football dogmas.

That's just my opinion. I'm not saying you're wrong. But as for the present, the here and now, that's how I feel.

 

[DFWJC]

Depends on the game. I think Garrett butchered the Giants game, Wade was ok. The Denver game turned w/ the fumble/TD. Then Wades D blew it late. Then I think Garrett screwed up the potential tying TD by going @ Champ covering his 7th or 8th best weapon.

So Im not completely sold on Garrett as HC just yet

Agree......

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Agree......

I agree, too. So how would this be Wade's fault? Don't get me wrong. I'm on Garrett's bandwagon, too.

 

[wconn1979]

I am on the bandwagon, he has thing turned around for the team and we are headed in the right direction so far. I dont think 6-2 is an unreasonable record. I think 11-5 or 12-4 would be an acceptable record for a good coach. My prediction still stands at 14-2 for the rest of the season but I am a homer!!

 

[Doomsay]

But if you're going to knock Wade for not winning a playoff game, then the same goes for Parcells. So now tell me where I'm embarrassing myself again...... and he's added new additions such as Jenkins, Brooking, Butler, G. Sense etc. So this is still Parcells' team, according to you. That's ridiculous. Oh, and, how is Parcells doing now?

Blaming Parcells for Romo's muffed hold is what is ridiculous. Not recognizing what Parcells built vs. what Wade inherited is ridiculous. If you can't see the difference between taking the 2003 team to the playoffs and Wade riding the wave of the 2007 team that he inherited, then I'm not sure that there is much to discuss on the subject.

As I said before, I'm not a huge Parcells gameday coaching fan, but to suggest that Wade is superior to the guy that has 2 rings, brought 2 teams to 3 Superbowls, brought the 4-28 Jets to the AFC Championship game, the 15-33 Cowboys to a playoff game and managed the 1-15 Dolphins to win the AFC East in his first year is.... ridiculous.

How's he doing now? Miami lost its starting QB at the beginning of the season, you tell me, seems like he did a good job last year, I think that it was kind of a record turnaround thing.

Wade did wonders with San Diego, too. Don't forget this Cowboys' team isn't his first rodeo...

If I recall correctly Wade wasn't the HC at San Diego, in fact they had an opportunity to keep him, but ah... In his other rodeos where he was the head wrangler, his teams' performances always diminished over his tenure, and he lost every playoff game.

The players and other coaches are currently putting together a winning effort despite Wade's failures as a head coach and leader. I think that Wade is a decent coordinator and he'll probably get another DC gig somewhere else, but he will never be a head coach on any other team IMO.

 

[DFWJC]

Blaming Parcells for Romo's muffed hold is what is ridiculous. .

Agreed...just like blaming Wade for Crayton's drop and Crayton not completing his route vs the Giants is ridiculous as well.

For that matter balming Romo the QB for losing the Seattle game is wrong too...he did lead them down for the win or tie....just muffed up as a special teamer, not a QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

Blaming Parcells for Romo's muffed hold is what is ridiculous. Not recognizing what Parcells built vs. what Wade inherited is ridiculous. If you can't see the difference between taking the 2003 team to the playoffs and Wade riding the wave of the 2007 team that he inherited, then I'm not sure that there is much to discuss on the subject.

As I said before, I'm not a huge Parcells gameday coaching fan, but to suggest that Wade is superior to the guy that has 2 rings, brought 2 teams to 3 Superbowls, brought the 4-28 Jets to the AFC Championship game, the 15-33 Cowboys to a playoff game and managed the 1-15 Dolphins to win the AFC East in his first year is.... ridiculous.

How's he doing now? Miami lost its starting QB at the beginning of the season, you tell me, seems like he did a good job last year, I think that it was kind of a record turnaround thing.

If I recall correctly Wade wasn't the HC at San Diego, in fact they had an opportunity to keep him, but ah... In his other rodeos where he was the head wrangler, his teams' performances always diminished over his tenure, and he lost every playoff game.

The players and other coaches are currently putting together a winning effort despite Wade's failures as a head coach and leader. I think that Wade is a decent coordinator and he'll probably get another DC gig somewhere else, but he will never be a head coach on any other team IMO.

You can spout all this crap you want in your mind he is not a HC, to the Dallas Cowboys he is the HC and this team success and failure will fall on him that is the reality the rest is nothing more than your own personal bias and belief you have nothing to back up anything you are saying. Jerry hired Wade as HC that is the way it is like it or not.