Think there's any possible way the Cowboys could trade up for Matt Leinart next year?

[CalCBFan]

IMHO, Henson will NEVER get on the field for us as long as BP is here. I think Bill is one of these guys that thinks once you give up football for baseball; well, that's it. Don't come back when you fail, looking to take up football again. You've turned your back on the game and that tears it for him. He never gave Hutch a shot, or tried to work with him or get somebody in here to work w/ him like Jimmy got Norv in here to work w/ Troy. BP pulled Henson last year against the Bears for throwing an int, yet how many did VT throw, and Bledso started last week's game w/ one (or maybe it was the last preseason game.) I hope Bledso does well and I like Romo too, but I just don't see BP playing Henson. He's Jerry's guy, not Bill's guy, and BP will keep him on the roster to appease Jerry but that doesn't mean playing time. He is ruining Henson's confidence every day Henson is on the roster. I think Henson should do what Ramsey is doing and ask to be traded....

 

[jackrussell]

You are still nit-picking semantics.

I researched the SD/NYG trade.

SD gave up #1 = 3000 points.

NYG gave up #4 = 2000, 65 = 270, 133 = 42.5, first next year = 600 total 2912.5 points. Draft spot's actual value became 1150 so they gave up 3412.5 to get the first pick.

I'd say that validates the book pretty damned well.

OK OK you're right. Every trade in the history of the NFL and every trade that will ever happen has gone by and will go by the book. And it will take 8-12 draft choices for Dallas to move up to #1 in 2006. Let it be written, let it be done!

Yeah, right. If it's nit picking when it's pointed out that it's not necessarily true, if it's nit picking when a question is answered in the full context in which it was presented, then just call me nit picker. Some nit pick, some exaggerate.

 

[baj1dallas]

IMHO, Henson will NEVER get on the field for us as long as BP is here. I think Bill is one of these guys that thinks once you give up football for baseball; well, that's it. Don't come back when you fail, looking to take up football again. You've turned your back on the game and that tears it for him. He never gave Hutch a shot, or tried to work with him or get somebody in here to work w/ him like Jimmy got Norv in here to work w/ Troy. BP pulled Henson last year against the Bears for throwing an int, yet how many did VT throw, and Bledso started last week's game w/ one (or maybe it was the last preseason game.) I hope Bledso does well and I like Romo too, but I just don't see BP playing Henson. He's Jerry's guy, not Bill's guy, and BP will keep him on the roster to appease Jerry but that doesn't mean playing time. He is ruining Henson's confidence every day Henson is on the roster. I think Henson should do what Ramsey is doing and ask to be traded....

He never gave Hutch a shot? I think it's clear Hutchinson doesn't have what it takes to be an NFL QB. Terry Glenn wasn't "Bill's guy" either and Parcells sure seemed to come around on him.

Parcells will stick with these 3 same QBs next year, maybe they will draft somebody in the 6-7th rounds if it is a strong QB draft and somebody like Orton falls again. Bledsoe will have a good year this year driving the bus like Parcells likes, then next year Henson and Romo will have more opportunity to challenge. After Bledsoe's second year is when they will consider drafting a QB in the first round or two but they won't sell the farm to move up for one guy I don't think.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't know which team you've been watching, bro, but there are few teams that go into a draft without pressing needs, and we're not one of them. The OL has three solid Pro-bowlers, but two, both OGs, are drifting into their mid-thirties. The other, LT F. Adams, is closing in on the big 3-0. We haven't decided on who our best OC is yet, & our starting RT is a sixth round rookie. Not to rip our line, but there are indeed pressing needs there to bring in recruits who can sit & learn from some of the best for a year or two before coming in to spell a starter, then grow from there. "O" linemen take the longest to adjust to the NFL, and it takes time for a line to gel.

The 2006 NFL Draft is one of the most loaded drafts for OLs than I've seen in years-especially LTs, which are the hardest to come by. No matter which end they play on, there is a good possibility of 5-6 OTs going in the 1st round alone. This is a great opportunity for the Cowboys to put together another dominating "O" line like they had in the mid-90s. None of the "Triplets" would be going up on that wall tomorrow if it hadn't been for those 8-10 players that played on that line during that era, and allowed the "Trips" to keep that offense humming.

Besides that, except for JJ, we still don't have that offensive playmaker that strikes fear in the hearts of defensive coordinators. I love Witten, and so would any QB who would have the luxury of having such a weapon. In order to take us over the top, however, I believe we need an Irvin type who can take it to the house during any given play. Just watching Braylon Edwards taking a 10 yd. slant & turning it into an 80 yd. TD drove home the point to me that a presense like that on the field is invaluable. The LBs & DBs can't crowd the run for fear of getting burned, which would open up our greatest weapon. Sound familiar?

There are several excellent WRs in next yr's. draft who have the size & speed we need to have a "true" No.1.

Finally, besides Aikman, who was the last first overall QB pick to guide the team that drafted him to the SB? Give him the weapons, & most any quality QB can get you to the promised land.

Nice post.

I agree, nab us another OL and a WR and I would feel much more comfortable about our depth.

No way should be gut our 2006 and '07 drafts for one player.

 

[lspain1]

I hope the Cowboys do so well this year, it is impossible for us to make the deal necessary to get Leinart. Since this is Commander Monday, I will go officially on record that the skins do so poorly that they can get Leinart.....oooh wait they gave that pick away didn't they?

 

[Doomsday101]

You never know, Dallas could pull a trade next off-season to move up that high. Remember Dorsett was would have gone to Seattle had Dallas not made that trade to bring him to Dallas and we certainly were not in a draft position heading into that draft to get him. But that is next year my concerns are for this year

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Okay, okay, I read much derision and combativeness in these posts. So can we all at least agree on one thing?

NO MORE BASEBALL PLAYERS!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Personally, I would not be surprised to see a QB taken in the next draft but I doubt it's going to be a Leinart or a McNeal. I just have a sneaking suspicion it's going to be a guy like Quinn, if he comes out and if he doesn't play himself up into a high draft spot. Quinn would make sense as a Parcells pick for a lot of reasons, IMO. First, he is basically playing in our offense now and Charlie Wiese will be the guy who Parcells will go to for the straight up and if that advice is take him, no other QB including Leinart will be considered. Second, he would probably represent value which is huge in the minds of both Jerruh and Purcells. Third, the guy is playing efficiantly right now. He's right at 60%, he's already thrown for over 800 yards and he's got 9 TDs against 2 INTs. This last stat is what will turn him from Drucilla, the average looking little sister into Sleeping Beauty, the gotta have Princess for Purcells, IMO.

I think this might really be a possability for us.

 

[Hiero]

Quinn does make sense, but i gotta think he stays for senior season to have another successful year. I think 2006 we will draft either WR or QB in the first round. and if we didnt take a qb first, we should definitely look at taking one the first day. theres always a qb or 2-3 that slip a little and end up 2nd or 3rd round when they started the season as a first rounder that we could maybe get. theres also a lot of good qb's coming out this year, whereas it seems wr depth this years draft will be weaker than normal.
Jacobs, Leinart, McNeal, Young Vick II even maybe. I wouldnt mind drafting marcus vick if he comes out this year and letting him sit behind drew for a year. hes been looking really good so far in what ive seen of him. Either way as long as we take some kind of shot at qb this draft whatever round, i'd feel a lot easier about our qb situation. OL depth imo for 2006 draft can be done in rounds 2-7. I think Rob will fill RT for a good bit hopefully, but if he doesnt do so well this year, then RT shoots up to 1st or 2nd priority imo along with QB. theres going to be 4 possible OT's going this first round which should make it easier for us to get one if needbe.

 

[Hiero]

if Quinn did come out this year I think we could steal him with a pick after the first round and let him sit ayear to learn.

 

[Yellow Lab]

Also, there's a guy down at U. of Louisville (Blume?) that looked real good Saturday... Have to see what all of these QB's do after the college season is over, but we definetley do need a stud to bring in and develop behind Bledsoe next year.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Also, there's a guy down at U. of Louisville (Blume?) that looked real good Saturday... Have to see what all of these QB's do after the college season is over, but we definetley do need a stud to bring in and develop behind Bledsoe next year.

Brian Brohm. He's only a Soph. this year though. He sat behind LeFors last year. First year really starting. I think he will be a good one but 07 is the earliest possible draft we would see him.

 

[Tobal]

for Dallas to get the number one pick I'm thinking you'd have to package (Assuming Dallas picks 20th) 2006 1st and 2nd, 2007 1st,3rd and JJ

 

[Hiero]

BP would never trade up for the #1 pick, it just isnt gonna happen. But he wouldnt surprise me to try and find a steal in the first or any round next year on QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

for Dallas to get the number one pick I'm thinking you'd have to package (Assuming Dallas picks 20th) 2006 1st and 2nd, 2007 1st,3rd and JJ

I don't think you have to give up that much.

 

[Yellow Lab]

That's him... Damn, didn't know he was a soph!

 

[DC Cowboy]

I would like to see us get a WR and shore up our O-line. A QB would be nice but at what cost?

 

[DC Cowboy]

Forget trading draft picks that high. It won't happen. And if it does, if ever, it has to be a player that you're really sure about. At the QB position, how many can you name that you were sure about that were drafted in the top 5? I think maybe one or two. I say give Henson time behind the scout team all year. Let him sit and watch Bledsoe, learn from him just like Brady did, and then make a decision next year. Bledsoe is signed to a three year deal and contrary to the rehashing that consistently occurs in the media, he's not that old. Have patience at the QB position - DH is the best "potential" we've had since Aikman. It will work itself out.

Better than Romo?

 

[Tobal]

I don't think you have to give up that much.

He's probably a two time hiesman winner from a school that recently produced Carson Palmer who has been sucessful in the league. He'd be the consensus number one pick.

Say the 49ers have that pick. Who is going to want it?

no doubt would want him

Ravens - no question
Dolphins - no question
Bucs - Griese is ok, but
Raiders - Keeping him in Cali
Lions - They get the right pac 10 qb this time
Titans - McNair is near the end and Volak isn't as good as Mr USC
Cleveland - Dilfer is old
Arizona- Warner?


Off the top of my head those guys would give two number onesright now, so you have to beat that.


Probably in the derby

Broncos - Plummer and Shannahan are gone if he doesn't win this yr
Saints - Brooks consistent?
Jets - Penningtons arm?

 

[blindzebra]

OK OK you're right. Every trade in the history of the NFL and every trade that will ever happen has gone by and will go by the book. And it will take 8-12 draft choices for Dallas to move up to #1 in 2006. Let it be written, let it be done!

Yeah, right. If it's nit picking when it's pointed out that it's not necessarily true, if it's nit picking when a question is answered in the full context in which it was presented, then just call me nit picker. Some nit pick, some exaggerate.

Still have heard nothing of what you think it will take.

You just love to show your disdain for the value chart, you still have not given one example of someone trading up to #1 that went completely against the chart.

So far you have given the Browns' stupidity and nothing more, you downplayed the SD/NYG swap, only to have it blow up in your face because it followed the value chart extremely well. So far all you can show are teams OVERPAYING to move up, ala the Browns and Ditka in NO. Where is the team giving away the top pick for cheap?

Yes, I fully expect a trade up from the 20's to #1 to require multiple picks. That is the kind of move a team needs 2 first round picks to even approach doing. Even with last year's picks we'd have still needed more than #11 and #20.

So where is your example of a team that gave away a high pick way under value? I'm still waiting for more than just lip service JR.