Trey Lance trade is one of the worst moves Jerry has ever done

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When I say competition when Romo was there is because it wasn't a given that Dak was keeping that job. Dak even said he was just filling in until Romo came back.... It's Romo's team
Prescott provided a customary statement made by any backup quarterback. His words cannot change what actually happened in regards to the topic of competition at that time.
 

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Prescott provided a customary statement made by any backup quarterback. His words cannot change what actually happened in regards to the topic of competition at that time.
If you really think Dak as a rookie didn't have pressure (competition) to continue to play really well while Romo was hurt than I'm not sure what else to tell you
 

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That is extreme short term thinking. It doesn't matter who is better right now. We already have a starting QB.

This trade was long term thinking. This trade is for down the line.
Huge huge gamble and one i think becomes a fail. Lance won’t be able to play this year and maybe not next if ever. Imagine if Greir got more reps…maybe he ends up the better guy and frankly I’d trust him for one game if I absolutely had to right now.
 

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But the problem here is it has nothing to do with Prescott this is a bottom of the roster churning move with a guy who has potential four other teams were also involved in wanting to bring him over but yet Jerry's always being blasted for anything he does and it's ridiculous at some point fans need to stop trying to be Internet jams because they're not this is challenging will Greer and Cooper rushes job right now I think fans are upset after that illusion that will Greer all of a sudden turned a corner and we're gonna cut a great player is now being moved off this roster because of the Trey Lance trade however this is to challenge those spots not Prescott this has no bearing on Prescott 's future.. I mean if that's not obvious he couldn't beat out Sam darnold he's not even gonna be carrying water for Prescott but yet Rockport and other people seem to think that's why he was brought here no they're hoping to find a diamond in the rough as a backup quarterback that can offer something this team needs is a prospect at quarterback Cooper rush is not a prospect he's a placeholder will Greer showed something last night but it was against scrubs..

The number one thing this kid brings is practice reps for the practice squad teams that are preparing our number one defense for mobile quarterbacks this is a great thing for practice right now.. Then you have a guy possibly you can maybe bring in and use them like taysom hill occasionally around the goal line some Wildcat some creative things on the offense and who knows maybe he fits our offense better than how he fell over there with all the pressure on him because of how much was given up for him and everyone just keeps talking about how much of a bus he is... Now he's a third string quarterback who was given a fourth round pick for less pressure..
I don’t want to put words in your mouth….but it sounds like you on board with looking for competition at qb? You are not married to Dak? You do not like this specific move because you do not feel it makes them better at QB depth overall? Ok, I don’t necessarily agree but again, time will tell.

My point was more to the crowd the seemingly felt threatened by this move.
 

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And that’s say a lot. There was absolutely no reason to make this trade at this time in the year for another QB. He’s probably not going to play at all this season. All it does is create QB controversy with the haters who actually believe that he’s better than Dak. And what’s worse, MM had no idea about the trade until it was already done. Dumb move by the ownership. Just horrible timing right before the season opener.
If theres a chance to improve your football team I don't have any issue with it. If it was a low character player that could divide the locker room as they sit far down the depth chart then different story.
 

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STOP. Quit adding words, US. No one said he was projected to go later, that is entirely on you.

He was a 4th/5th round type of player. He was a project player. Small school player. He went early because he has a great arm and didn't throw any picks, but it was for Podunk U. No way was he even 1st/2nd round talent.

I wish you could quit projecting your silly squabbles onto every other posters. I like most of what you have to say.
You make no sense at all for you reference him as a 4th/5th round project player. Stating he SHOULD have been anything but the #3 overall pick is irrelevant seeing as how he was drafted where he was drafted....only his struggles have you making the statement for if he was playing lights out and a Mahomes Jr. would you still say he SHOULD have been drafted in the 4th/5th round? Doubtful.
 
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And that’s say a lot. There was absolutely no reason to make this trade at this time in the year for another QB. He’s probably not going to play at all this season. All it does is create QB controversy with the haters who actually believe that he’s better than Dak. And what’s worse, MM had no idea about the trade until it was already done. Dumb move by the ownership. Just horrible timing right before the season opener.
..yep, good points. I dont see the trade incentives to this. Only that Jerry/Steph are interested in using gadget plays.

The explanation will come out sooner than later.
 

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I don’t want to put words in your mouth….but it sounds like you on board with looking for competition at qb? You are not married to Dak? You do not like this specific move because you do not feel it makes them better at QB depth overall? Ok, I don’t necessarily agree but again, time will tell.

My point was more to the crowd the seemingly felt threatened by this move.
No that is not what I'm saying I'm saying it's just roster churning at the bottom you're looking for potential developmental players for the future this has no bearing on Prescott but it does have a bearing on will Greer apparently losing his job because after last night if it wasn't for Trey Lance he'd still be here and by the way Cooper rush is not special I mean he's so overrated that I don't even know how to explain that he's probably not even as good as Sam darnold and the fact is maybe next year Trey Lance is our backup only time will tell... So not a competition for Prescott there's no way he can do that right now but yeah competition for Cooper rush competition for the backup spot next year why not it's the same thing as if we would have just picked this guy up in the fourth round of the draft and now we need to give them time to develop... But no I'm not threatened at all I could care less I don't even care they made the move but I can see why they would and there were four other teams vying for this guy's services it they act like Jerry Jones just does **** nobody else does but it's not true..

This is a 23 year old kid that has potential and you picked him up for a fourth round pick and what amounts to about two and a half mil a year or one year $5 million we don't have to have him on the roster next year then we won't have to pay his bonus and there's no guarantees... I don't have a problem with that. When you see other quarterbacks that sometimes can take four or five years maybe longer to develop or a guy like Gino Smith finally gets it then it you look at this a 23 year old kid and say maybe he just needed a change of environment and that if he can be your number two in 2024 why not?
 

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Since I want what’s best for my team and not what’s best for the player I have tattooed on my butt cheek, I won’t lose sleep over this trade. Young QB with a lot of potential added for basically nothing, what’s not to like?

Besides, a little competition never hurt anyone — only losers and quitters avoid it at all costs. Am I doing this right?
 

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I like the trade. 4th round pick for a 22 year old QB that was picked number 3 overall is a good risk that could pay off.

He has the talent, just needs development. 49ers seem like a bunch of drama between getting office and coaches about taking Lance and just wasn't a good situation.

Here, Lance can sit and develop without any pressure.

As far as QB controversy is concern, I think it's silly. Nobody in their right mind thinks Lance will take Daks spot. It does put pressure on Dak to perform and he seems to play his best when he has competition
But he is not developing into anything for the Cowboys. He is not going to play this year. He is not going to play next year. Then he is a free agent. Even if he develops into an average starter in that time he is going to be doing it elsewhere.
 

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He is much more expensive than “a guy in the 4th round”. It’s not supposed to matter to other players, but it does. He’s done next to nothing in the NFL in two years, absolutely nothing for the Cowboys, but he’s drawing significantly more compensation than teammates that have. One of those teammates is QB2, another is QB gone.
Dude if you've been on this board long enough you know that when I say something and I disagree with you you're not gonna change my mind!

I disagree with you Cooper rush and Greir are Jags, this kids 23 years old and has a possibility to be better than that...

we're just talking about potential and giving up a fourth round is nothing it really is nothing.

I mean when the guy you look at San Francisco gave up three first round picks to move up in the draft to get him and four other teams besides the Cowboys we're looking to get Trey Lance,​
it's not just Jerry,​
get over it,​
get off me,​
I won't come to your side. I like the move, do I love it , no TBD, talk to me in a couple years but sometimes you do this you turn the bottom of your roster and get some people with potential,. I bet it doesn't matter it matters to fans it matters to social media it matters to media pundits trying to start controversies it does not matter to people on the roster I promise you it doesn't... You are saying that just says that you have a problem with it, people have likeminded with you, have a problem with it ,this is not a locker room controversy . this is a kid who failed to live up to his potential at one team so now he's going to another that's it that's all it matters.​
 

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The hand wringing over this trade is wierd.. Again we basically took a flyer on a QB with best case being he plants Rush by years end and pushes Dak in 2 to 3 years or just stays a backup for several years... why the heartache? Look at some point you look at your roster and say "Where can we improve?" when your backup has smarts but can not throw a 10 yard out then maybe you bring someone in that can push him.... Trey actually has great physical talent and if he can put his head down and learn the position next couple years you may have a quality 25-26 QB to replace your 33 year old one...whats so hard to understand?
 

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No that is not what I'm saying I'm saying it's just roster churning at the bottom you're looking for potential developmental players for the future this has no bearing on Prescott but it does have a bearing on will Greer apparently losing his job because after last night if it wasn't for Trey Lance he'd still be here and by the way Cooper rush is not special I mean he's so overrated that I don't even know how to explain that he's probably not even as good as Sam darnold and the fact is maybe next year Trey Lance is our backup only time will tell... So not a competition for Prescott there's no way he can do that right now but yeah competition for Cooper rush competition for the backup spot next year why not it's the same thing as if we would have just picked this guy up in the fourth round of the draft and now we need to give them time to develop... But no I'm not threatened at all I could care less I don't even care they made the move but I can see why they would and there were four other teams vying for this guy's services it they act like Jerry Jones just does **** nobody else does but it's not true..

This is a 23 year old kid that has potential and you picked him up for a fourth round pick and what amounts to about two and a half mil a year or one year $5 million we don't have to have him on the roster next year then we won't have to pay his bonus and there's no guarantees... I don't have a problem with that. When you see other quarterbacks that sometimes can take four or five years maybe longer to develop or a guy like Gino Smith finally gets it then it you look at this a 23 year old kid and say maybe he just needed a change of environment and that if he can be your number two in 2024 why not?
I think I am tracking. I am watching last nights game now. Grier played well, made good decisions.

Time will tell on Lance. Hopefully it works out.
 

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He’s been healthy all offseason participating in offseason workouts, OTA’s, mini-camps and preseason games and couldn’t even win the backup role.
Are you saying Lance stinks? A lot of the the so called experts on here say he does as if they have been monitoring his development since the day he walked on the 49ers practice field. Has anyone heard any coach from the niners say that Lance doesn't have what it takes? We all know about the lack of playing time and the injury, but still some on here see it as a waste of time and that a 4th rounder wasn't worth it. I just don't understand how some don't see the upside in this trade? Sure. he may not amount to much, but nobody knows that yet.
The bottom line is the niners (Shanahan) decided at the end of last season that Purdy was the guy he wanted to develop and give snaps to / to invest in...and when they singed Darnold to compete with Lance, Darnold got the backup job mainly because of veteran experience, not because Lance wasn't capable ...Shanahan wanted a vet backup or he wouldn't have signed Darnold.
Lance didn't play himself out of San Fransisco...the playing time/experience doesn't warrant that. He wasn't given the opportunity because Shanahan has turned his back on him...most coaches don't have that kind of control ( unless your name is Belichick) to change course so soon after investing so heavy to acquire a player .
 

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If you really think Dak as a rookie didn't have pressure (competition) to continue to play really well while Romo was hurt than I'm not sure what else to tell you
I would disagree with 'pressure' equating as 'competition'. A player feels pressure for maintaining a high level of performance and productivity during a practice or game.

Competition is one player trying to consistently execute their responsibilities within an offensive or defensive better in the eyes of the coaches than two or more other players at the same position. Competition can also be applied to players attempting to perform better than players outside their position in order to maintain and secure their place on a roster. Competition establishes the pecking order of a roster's depth chart.

Dak Prescott was not competing with Tony Romo while the latter was hurt. The two of them were not a field together while he was sidelined for competition to exist. The coaches continued having Prescott lead the starters mostly during practice when Romo was cleared, so competition was stymied then as well. Prescott did not certainly experience pressure from backup Mark Sanchez during that span as well. Heck, Sanchez looked happy on the sidelines, sitting beside the rookie, assisting Prescott with reviewing plays.

Prescott handled the pressure of being the starter exceptionally during his rookie year. He performed extremely well in historic fashion.
 

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I didn’t like the move, because the only thing it did was FURTHER delay drafting Dak’s replacement.
I think we just added Dak's replacement to the team. Dude is 23 years old and hasn't played. He was rated to go as the number 8 pick of the draft that year slated to go to Carolina by just about everyone. He has upside. Hell if he hadn't gotten hurt last year he might be the starting QB in San Fran. No one expected Purdy to be the guy. Course I have no problem with drafting a QB next year with a late round pick anyway, but we will know by then if Lance is worth a crap under MM.
 
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