Trey Lance trade is one of the worst moves Jerry has ever done

[USArmyVet]

Sure, but now consider the fact that he was actually a 4th/5th round project player.

Lance was a projected 4th/5th round player? ReallY?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

THIS IS NOT ABOUT DAK.

Please please please don't let y'all's Dak drivel spill over into every thread.

Of course it is...right there in the OP.

 

[CCBoy]

Lance was a projected 4th/5th round player? ReallY?

Not by Dallas or San Francisco.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Sure, but now consider the fact that he was actually a 4th/5th round project player.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

I can think of many more trades that was more confusing than this one. This one is not bad compared to some that Jed has pulled off.

 

[kskboys]

Lance was a projected 4th/5th round player? ReallY?

STOP. Quit adding words, US. No one said he was projected to go later, that is entirely on you.

He was a 4th/5th round type of player. He was a project player. Small school player. He went early because he has a great arm and didn't throw any picks, but it was for Podunk U. No way was he even 1st/2nd round talent.

I wish you could quit projecting your silly squabbles onto every other posters. I like most of what you have to say.

 

[khiladi]

Neutral? Okay. The Chargers offered Brees a contract with little guaranteed money for fear of injuries which were suffered his second starting season as he only missed 1 game in 2004 and 2005 combined; his 1 pro bowl season was in 2004 and Favre had issues with the coaching staff (Glanville) which is why he was traded as Glanville believed his average starter could turn it around, thereby making the trade more viable (mistake).
The timing isn;t bad and Jerry saw a quick opportunity to make the trade and so decided he didn;t need to consult MM, especially given that if Dallas falters again this season MM is gone and Dak may not be far behind him.

After going through the full clip of the interview if Jerry, it seems this may be the reality. Jerry openly said if they like what they see, they hope to extend him even before the 5th year option plays out. He also said this is something they have always wanted to do, get a young, talent QB always in the roster to develop,

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jerry is thinking business on his mind also, as he’s seeing the QB contract numbers sky-rocketing and he wants to find a cheaper way and not to high-jacked into paying big bucks for average QBs like Dak, that he thinks he feels he is being forced to pay, as he has no other option.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

STOP. Quit adding words, US. No one said he was projected to go later, that is entirely on you.

He was a 4th/5th round type of player. He was a project player. Small school player. He went early because he has a great arm and didn't throw any picks, but it was for Podunk U. No way was he even 1st/2nd round talent.

I wish you could quit projecting your silly squabbles onto every other posters. I like most of what you have to say.

Sorry...I have to admit I was confused by your statement as well. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[kskboys]

Geeeeezzzz, how in the world are you guys missing this. I feel like I'm teaching grade school, you have to spell everything out.

Lance SHOULD have been a 4th/5th round pick. That is what his talent dictated. He ran a grade school O and couldn't read a D to save his life. He made his living scrambling around. And that was against subpar players. There were and are huge questions as to whether his athleticism even translates to the NFL.

Using the "3rd overall pick" thingie as an excuse for the trade is silly, as that means nothing at this stage of his career.

I'm fine w/ trading a 4th for him to see if he can develop. As fans, we do not know all the ins and outs, so none of us really know whether this was a wise trade or not.

 

[kskboys]

Sorry...I have to admit I was confused by your statement as well. Thank you for clarifying.

Apologies to everyone, I thought it was obvious. My mistake.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

With all due respect, when has Dak ever had serious competition for his job In the last 7 years?

As a backup in high school, college and NFL. Everytime the starter went down and Dak came in, he played so well the starter didn't get his job back.

He has been a pro longer and haven't had that competition since Romo retired

 

[Irvin88_4life]

He has the talent...he JUST needs the development?

There has probably been over a hundred 1st round QB busts in the last 40 years. Guys that were great in college...and just never amounted to anything in the NFL.

Each and every one of them "had the talent". But....they just weren't good NFL QBs. It comes down to....do you (you as in everyone) think it's more likely Lance will become the 2nd Steve Young (or Ryan Tannehill if you want to include him...even though he isn't even as good as Dak)..OR, do you think it's more likely he winds up like every single other Top10 QB bust, who once they didn't work out with their first team, never amounted to anything in the league?

Hey....I'm sure we could send a 2nd rounder to the Jets and get Zach Wilson if we wanted him too! He "has the talent"...in fact he has a zillion times more arm talent than Lance.

It's very possible Lance turns out to be a bust. However, there is no way you know that for sure are 2 years in the league and he has only played around 4 games as a pro due to injuries mostly.

That's why folks say it's a risk with a very high reward.

 

[kskboys]

After going through the full clip of the interview if Jerry, it seems this may be the reality. Jerry openly said if they like what they see, they hope to extend him even before the 5th year option plays out. He also said this is something they have always wanted to do, get a young, talent QB always in the roster to develop,

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jerry is thinking business on his mind also, as he’s seeing the QB contract numbers sky-rocketing and he wants to find a cheaper way and not to high-jacked into paying big bucks for average QBs like Dak, that he thinks he feels he is being forced to pay, as he has no other option.

Only problem is, he may not be talented. Slow processing info. One of the biggest QB killers there is.

 

[Jarv]

Some of the best offenses in the NFL? A playoff win against Tom Brady, albeit an aged one?

We've had 30 years of failure in the organization and still going because Jerry is still trying to prove the 90's success is him and not Jimmy Johnson. The QB can only do so much, and the lack of offense reared it's ugly head as many predicted it would once Amari, the best WR on the team, was traded for a bag of cheetos. The FO DID make a great adjustment this year in picking up Cooks.

The real issue however, is Jerry and son, once again making isolated moves to showcase that, "Hey look at me! I'm the reason the Cowboys are great!"

This trade is a solid one on paper. I'm just not thrilled about the actual process of the trade. Aside from that, at least we're slowly molding into something that resembles an actual football team since all of the Jerry coaching projects are no longer in the building.

Thank you for your reply.

 

[Chuck 54]

And that’s say a lot. There was absolutely no reason to make this trade at this time in the year for another QB. He’s probably not going to play at all this season. All it does is create QB controversy with the haters who actually believe that he’s better than Dak. And what’s worse, MM had no idea about the trade until it was already done. Dumb move by the ownership. Just horrible timing right before the season opener.

I’m sorry, but nothing involving a late 4th round pick can ever be called the all time worst decision. Let’s be real. It’s a low cost gamble that we improve our backup QB situation and develop a young, talented player as the next starting QB. Or he develops over the next two years and becomes an excellent trade piece. Maybe he shows out and leaves in free agency after 2024 and re recoup a nice compensatory pick.

It creates no QB controversy for this season, and if he later plays so well that there is a controversy, then it was a great trade because he will hold even greater value. As for the haters, come on, man, nothing could make them more silly and annoying than they already are. At 23 years old, it’s about time we had a possible decent backup developing for the future.

 

[Flamma]

STOP. Quit adding words, US. No one said he was projected to go later, that is entirely on you.

He was a 4th/5th round type of player. He was a project player. Small school player. He went early because he has a great arm and didn't throw any picks, but it was for Podunk U. No way was he even 1st/2nd round talent.

I wish you could quit projecting your silly squabbles onto every other posters. I like most of what you have to say.

I don't know what the 49ers were thinking. He didn't throw any picks because if the first read wasn't wide open, he took off. That was clear for anyone to see.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Right now Lance is not an upgrade to anyone on this team. If and when we release Grier, the QB room just got weaker. Lance has unrealized potential, that's it. The question is whether we'll ever see it.

Let's not act like Lance hasn't played in real NFL games and won.

Reports from some that watched the 49ers training camp said Lance outplayed Darnold.

When it comes to Lance the front office and coaches had drama. Some for him and others against which caused issues. You can't have internal drama like that, it can derail the team and split the locker room.

 

[Captain-Crash]

this crap is comical. "what's love got to do with it"

 

[Flamma]

Let's not act like Lance hasn't played in real NFL games and won.

Reports from some that watched the 49ers training camp said Lance outplayed Darnold.

When it comes to Lance the front office and coaches had drama. Some for him and others against which caused issues. You can't have internal drama like that, it can derail the team and split the locker room.

I think the potential is there. I just don't think this is a good team for him to show that potential.

I don't know about training camp. But when it comes to this preseason, he was clearly outplayed by Darnold on the field. What happens on the field ultimately matters most. But your final comment is pretty much why he was sent packing. You can't have that.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Roy Williams trade from Detroit.