Trey Lance trade is one of the worst moves Jerry has ever done

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As a backup in high school, college and NFL. Everytime the starter went down and Dak came in, he played so well the starter didn't get his job back.

He has been a pro longer and haven't had that competition since Romo retired
Dak Prescott did not have any real competition before Tony Romo retired either, unless training camp and preseason are taken into account. During Prescott's rookie season, the competition between Kellen Moore and Prescott as the second and third string quarterbacks ended in early August during training camp when Moore was permanently sidelined by injury.

Similarly, competition between first-string Romo and second-string Prescott ended when Romo sustained his injury three weeks later. Competition between both quarterbacks did not resume once Romo returned to practice following his injury. And the front office squashed any lingering question of an opportunity for Romo to compete again when Jones threw his entire support behind Prescott by late October.

I know some observers believe Cooper Rush has provided Prescott competition at times but that is a false assumption. Trey Lance offers the first bonafide probability of Prescott facing 'real' competition since before his first regular season game AS a rookie.
 

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Time will tell if the trade pans out. I normally am more with the pro Dak crowd because he is their best and only option at this point. But common, it’s worth taking a look at this kid and in the unlikely scenario he is a better option than Dak at some point, so be it. As a fan of the team, I want them to win and compete for a Superbowl. I don’t care who the QB is.
 

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Disagree. Low risk, high reward.

I'd say it's unlikely Lance ever becomes the star he was supposed to be.

But if he does show that he can play (for Dallas or a team we trade him to), then the trade becomes a MASSIVE success.
 

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I like the trade. 4th round pick for a 22 year old QB that was picked number 3 overall is a good risk that could pay off.

He has the talent, just needs development. 49ers seem like a bunch of drama between getting office and coaches about taking Lance and just wasn't a good situation.

Here, Lance can sit and develop without any pressure.

As far as QB controversy is concern, I think it's silly. Nobody in their right mind thinks Lance will take Daks spot. It does put pressure on Dak to perform and he seems to play his best when he has competition
Would you have felt even better if the Cowboys acquired Zach Wilson? He was drafted number two overall.
 

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And that’s say a lot. There was absolutely no reason to make this trade at this time in the year for another QB. He’s probably not going to play at all this season. All it does is create QB controversy with the haters who actually believe that he’s better than Dak. And what’s worse, MM had no idea about the trade until it was already done. Dumb move by the ownership. Just horrible timing right before the season opener.
Disagree this is no different than if we had got a guy in the fourth round as a project quarterback and there's not any controversy that's social media and fans like you who make everything a controversy make a big deal about everything and overreact to everything... Not one person on that team thinks there's a quarterback controversy that only happens in social media.. So let's move on Mr. Rockport I disagree with you and I think a lot of people will.. And by the way there were four other NFL teams interested and they were bidding the only difference they were offering 5th and 6th rounders and we gave 1/4 what's the difference they still wanted this guy on their team at the same timing as Jerry did but you're always on Jerry people need to get off Jerry you know he didn't make this vision on his own right he consulted the coaches he probably consulted Prescott he consulted will mcclay and this is what they came up with and I'll allow them some latitude before I allow you any..
 

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Geeeeezzzz, how in the world are you guys missing this. I feel like I'm teaching grade school, you have to spell everything out.
Wow. Yeah that isn't very offensive. Being that cranky this early on a Sunday morning can't be good for you my friend.
 

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I think the potential is there. I just don't think this is a good team for him to show that potential.

I don't know about training camp. But when it comes to this preseason, he was clearly outplayed by Darnold on the field. What happens on the field ultimately matters most. But your final comment is pretty much why he was sent packing. You can't have that.
I think Dallas is the perfect spot. Dak is the starter, no doubt. That shows Lance to develop without pressure or the drama. On top of that, McCarthy has developed QBs and could really help this young man.

You also have to remember the offense Dallas will be running is a lot like Lance offense in college. He will pick it up really fast
 

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It's very possible Lance turns out to be a bust. However, there is no way you know that for sure are 2 years in the league and he has only played around 4 games as a pro due to injuries mostly.

That's why folks say it's a risk with a very high reward.
Definitely a high reward.....just think we overpayed for something that has 1 or 2% chance of working out (and when I say work out, I mean work out in that one day he becomes as good as Dak. 1 in 10,000 he becomes more....if I'm the odds maker.

The one bright spot ....is that last year was an injury year, so it's not like he didn't play because of on field stuff
 

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Time will tell if the trade pans out. I normally am more with the pro Dak crowd because he is their best and only option at this point. But common, it’s worth taking a look at this kid and in the unlikely scenario he is a better option than Dak at some point, so be it. As a fan of the team, I want them to win and compete for a Superbowl. I don’t care who the QB is.
But the problem here is it has nothing to do with Prescott this is a bottom of the roster churning move with a guy who has potential four other teams were also involved in wanting to bring him over but yet Jerry's always being blasted for anything he does and it's ridiculous at some point fans need to stop trying to be Internet jams because they're not this is challenging will Greer and Cooper rushes job right now I think fans are upset after that illusion that will Greer all of a sudden turned a corner and we're gonna cut a great player is now being moved off this roster because of the Trey Lance trade however this is to challenge those spots not Prescott this has no bearing on Prescott 's future.. I mean if that's not obvious he couldn't beat out Sam darnold he's not even gonna be carrying water for Prescott but yet Rockport and other people seem to think that's why he was brought here no they're hoping to find a diamond in the rough as a backup quarterback that can offer something this team needs is a prospect at quarterback Cooper rush is not a prospect he's a placeholder will Greer showed something last night but it was against scrubs..

The number one thing this kid brings is practice reps for the practice squad teams that are preparing our number one defense for mobile quarterbacks this is a great thing for practice right now.. Then you have a guy possibly you can maybe bring in and use them like taysom hill occasionally around the goal line some Wildcat some creative things on the offense and who knows maybe he fits our offense better than how he fell over there with all the pressure on him because of how much was given up for him and everyone just keeps talking about how much of a bus he is... Now he's a third string quarterback who was given a fourth round pick for less pressure..
 

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Jerry was high on the guy and got a phone call about getting him for a Jabtril Cox pick. Jerry laughed and said, "A 4th, I usually piss away 2nd round picks on guys worse than this. I'll take him". Jerry then was overheard saying, "I hope my dak-loving worshipers don't get to butt hurt on that cowboyz forum/"
 

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Dak Prescott did not have any real competition before Tony Romo retired either, unless training camp and preseason are taken into account. During Prescott's rookie season, the competition between Kellen Moore and Prescott as the second and third string quarterbacks ended in early August during training camp when Moore was permanently sidelined by injury.

Similarly, competition between first-string Romo and second-string Prescott ended when Romo sustained his injury three weeks later. Competition between both quarterbacks did not resume once Romo returned to practice following his injury. And the front office squashed any lingering question of an opportunity for Romo to compete again when Jones threw his entire support behind Prescott by late October.

I know some observers believe Cooper Rush has provided Prescott competition at times but that is a false assumption. Trey Lance offers the first bonafide probability of Prescott facing 'real' competition since before his first regular season game AS a rookie.
When I say competition when Romo was there is because it wasn't a given that Dak was keeping that job. Dak even said he was just filling in until Romo came back.... It's Romo's team
 

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And that’s say a lot. There was absolutely no reason to make this trade at this time in the year for another QB. He’s probably not going to play at all this season. All it does is create QB controversy with the haters who actually believe that he’s better than Dak. And what’s worse, MM had no idea about the trade until it was already done. Dumb move by the ownership. Just horrible timing right before the season opener.
People with a brain though know Lance is QB3. He’s not gonna be QB1 or 2 this year. Great move to me.
 

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I think Dallas is the perfect spot. Dak is the starter, no doubt. That shows Lance to develop without pressure or the drama. On top of that, McCarthy has developed QBs and could really help this young man.

You also have to remember the offense Dallas will be running is a lot like Lance offense in college. He will pick it up really fast
I hope you're right. My issue is that I don't think he'll ever get a chance here. But who knows.
 

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Would you have felt even better if the Cowboys acquired Zach Wilson? He was drafted number two overall.
He has talent but I liked Lance over Wilson as prospects.

Wilson has actually played a full season as a starter. Lance has played 4 games.

I will have been ok with Wilson as the backup for a 4th.... Yes

Every position can be upgraded, then do it
 

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Definitely a high reward.....just think we overpayed for something that has 1 or 2% chance of working out (and when I say work out, I mean work out in that one day he becomes as good as Dak. 1 in 10,000 he becomes more....if I'm the odds maker.

The one bright spot ....is that last year was an injury year, so it's not like he didn't play because of on field stuff
A 4th round pick for the possibility of a future starting QB isn't over paying. At worst Lance is a backup that can win you games...... That's worth a 4th rounder to me
 

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No downside to this trade . Trey isn’t doing anything but backing up and if that has an effect on Dak ( which it shouldn’t as he is average at best ) then Dak isn’t who I believe him to be

I do also think injuries are a bit concerning with Dak over the last few years and if Lance has any kind of arm he’s an improvement over noodle arm
 

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I hope you're right. My issue is that I don't think he'll ever get a chance here. But who knows.
The past few years Dak has had some injuries. On top of that I believe McCarthy will let him go in the 4th quarter if Dallas is up huge, or perhaps if the playoffs are locked up.
 

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Disagree this is no different than if we had got a guy in the fourth round as a project quarterback and there's not any controversy that's social media and fans like you who make everything a controversy make a big deal about everything and overreact to everything... Not one person on that team thinks there's a quarterback controversy that only happens in social media.. So let's move on Mr. Rockport I disagree with you and I think a lot of people will.. And by the way there were four other NFL teams interested and they were bidding the only difference they were offering 5th and 6th rounders and we gave 1/4 what's the difference they still wanted this guy on their team at the same timing as Jerry did but you're always on Jerry people need to get off Jerry you know he didn't make this vision on his own right he consulted the coaches he probably consulted Prescott he consulted will mcclay and this is what they came up with and I'll allow them some latitude before I allow you any..
He is much more expensive than “a guy in the 4th round”. It’s not supposed to matter to other players, but it does. He’s done next to nothing in the NFL in two years, absolutely nothing for the Cowboys, but he’s drawing significantly more compensation than teammates that have. One of those teammates is QB2, another is QB gone.
 

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No downside to this trade . Trey isn’t doing anything but backing up and if that has an effect on Dak ( which it shouldn’t as he is average at best ) then Dak isn’t who I believe him to be

I do also think injuries are a bit concerning with Dak over the last few years and if Lance has any kind of arm he’s an improvement over noodle arm
You can watch videos of Lance with the 49ers dropping 50 yard bombs on a dime. No doubt he is more talented than Rush and Grier. It's not even close
 
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