News: Troy Aikman: 'I believe either Manziel or RG3 will be in Dallas' in 2016

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Because we know what we would have with rgIII, right now that is bust. What in the world has any one seen to say otherwise. He couldn't become starter material in Washington, what makes our team any different. He could not even be a backup in Washington.


What would make our situation different from Washington is scheme.

RG3 is a vertical passer and Gruden wanted to use a short dumpoff passing game.

Rg3 doesn't have much of a short game but he can throw downfield pretty well.
 
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What would make our situation different from Washington is scheme.

RG3 is a vertical passer and Gruden wanted to use a short dumpoff passing game.

Rg3 doesn't have much of a short game but he can throw downfield pretty well.

Nice reply, and to the short game, finness comes with time at quarterback.
 

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Honestly that is how I see it playing out....at #4 overall, unless its a consensus slam dunk, you cant go QB...take the best player, Traedwell, Ramsey or Bosa....sign a RG3 and draft a QB in later round...like Driskell
Hope this team stays far away from Bosa or Ramsey. IMo the two most overrated players in this draft along with Nkemdiche. I actually hope Bosa is there because i think teams would trade up for him. Bosa is a nice LDE because he plays the run very good. But Dallas doesnt need him they have Lawrence. Pass on Bosa trade down or draft Jack. You could probably trade down a few spots picking up a extra pick and still get Jack right now, after the combine i dont think you will. Jack is going to open alot of eyes at the combine. If Dallas wanted a De go after Spence not Bosa.
 

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Dude - honestly. No we're not great, in fact we sucked this year. There are a lot of holes to fill and ripping the team after 4-12 is deserved but the Romo stuff is ridicules. Your opinion, that's fine but you lost me and probably most people with "Find somebody with some pedigree."

You want guys with pedigree
Guys who come from big time programs
Guys who have played in and won big time games
Guys with pedigree like Aikman and Manning and Luck

So all of these guys are your boys--

Mark Sanchez
Matt Leinert
Vince Young
Jamarcus Russell
Sam Bradford
RGII
Johnney Maiziel
EJ Manual

I could go on but that would be piling on.

But it doesn't stop there because then I take Romo over Rivers and Bradford and Ryan and Smith and Tannehill and Dalton, all guys from major programs but...never mind. The point is made.

Being a fanboy of pedigree sounds like this--

"Take that piece of crap from North Dakota St. outta here and give me Brady Quinn!!"

I'm really not trying to insult you, I respect your opinion and not trying to change your mind about Tony - but the reasoning is very flawed.

You're absolutely right about some aspects of the team and organization but going from 12-4 to 4-12 because of losing Romo and calling out others because Romo is our "baby" - well yeah he is. He should've been the MVP last year and gives us the best chance to win as demonstrated this past season and finding a franchise quarterback is damn hard and never guaranteed. Ask the Bills or the Browns, or the Texans or the....on and on and on...

Lots of reasons to rip the team or coaching and I'm with you on some of it - but jumping on people because Romo is our "baby" is - childish.

You would take Romo over Rivers?

If Rivers had our O-Line, and maybe if he had Dez, not only would he turn it around for Dez, but we would be 1 of the elite teams.

Don't say Romo is better than Rivers.

Don't give me stats either. Rivers his whole career had to work with very little.
 

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You would take Romo over Rivers?

If Rivers had our O-Line, and maybe if he had Dez, not only would he turn it around for Dez, but we would be 1 of the elite teams.

Don't say Romo is better than Rivers.

Don't give me stats either. Rivers his whole career had to work with very little.

So stats don't count? Only your opinion?

And Rivers had Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates in their primes from 2006-2011. Oh and some RB named Tomlinson who caught nearly 200 balls from Rivers from 2006-2009.

So LOL at Rivers having no one to work with over his "whole career".
 
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I rather not of either one but I'd go w rg3. I'd rather draft someone to groom immediately.


IMO, Wentz is the only guy that i'd be willing to spend a pick on with the thought that he could eventually carry this franchise.


All of these other guys, including Goff and Lynch, im just not that interested in as a future starter.
 

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Because we know what we would have with rgIII, right now that is bust. What in the world has any one seen to say otherwise. He couldn't become starter material in Washington, what makes our team any different. He could not even be a backup in Washington.

I don't think you do know what you would get with RGIII. He was a rookie of the year award winner so he does have something that can be coached up. Washington's failure with him was coaching. With a fresh start, being home in Texas RGIII would thrive. He has alot to learn from Romo but those two are already friends and would be great together.
 
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I don't think you do know what you would get with RGIII. He was a rookie of the year award winner so he does have something that can be coached up. Washington's failure with him was coaching. With a fresh start, being home in Texas RGIII would thrive. He has alot to learn from Romo but those two are already friends and would be great together.

Seriously? He's a coach killer not the other way around.
 

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You would take Romo over Rivers?

If Rivers had our O-Line, and maybe if he had Dez, not only would he turn it around for Dez, but we would be 1 of the elite teams.

Don't say Romo is better than Rivers.

Don't give me stats either. Rivers his whole career had to work with very little.

Romo is better than Rivers in my opinion and you don't want stats because you know it's another nail in the coffin. But I will say it was a clever deflection of my point.

It's okay - no worries. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.
 

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Romo is better than Rivers in my opinion and you don't want stats because you know it's another nail in the coffin. But I will say it was a clever deflection of my point.

It's okay - no worries. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.

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So stats don't count? Only your opinion?

And Rivers had Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates in their primes from 2006-2011. Oh and some RB named Tomlinson who caught nearly 200 balls from Rivers from 2006-2009.

So LOL at Rivers having no one to work with over his "whole career".

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Troy Aikman: 'I believe either Manziel or RG3 will be in Dallas' in 2016
By Ryan Wilson | CBSSports.com

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...ther-manziel-or-rg3-will-be-in-dallas-in-2016




...In fact, FOX Sports NFL analyst Troy Aikman, a Cowboys legend and Hall of Famer, wouldn't be shocked at all if one of those two scenarios played out.

"I believe as I sit here today that either Johnny Manziel or Robert Griffin III will be in Dallas as a backup (next year)," Aikman told SI.com's Maggie Gray.

Aikman was asked to rate how shocked he'd be by the move on a scale of 1-10 ("1" being not at all, and "10" very much so): "Four and maybe a 1."

Put another way: Aikman -- and just about everybody else -- would be more surprised if Manziel or Griffin don't end up in Dallas, probably because of quotes from Jones like his response to a question about "young backup quarterbacks available this offseason who come with some risk":...

Thanks for picking my brain Troy and making a big story out of it....
 
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You would take Romo over Rivers?

If Rivers had our O-Line, and maybe if he had Dez, not only would he turn it around for Dez, but we would be 1 of the elite teams.

Don't say Romo is better than Rivers.

Don't give me stats either. Rivers his whole career had to work with very little.

Romo is better than rivers . He can do so much more and doesn't have rivers salty attitude.
 

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I don't think you do know what you would get with RGIII. He was a rookie of the year award winner so he does have something that can be coached up. Washington's failure with him was coaching. With a fresh start, being home in Texas RGIII would thrive. He has alot to learn from Romo but those two are already friends and would be great together.

His rookie year was the product of all other teams being hit with a offensive system that they weren't ready for. Much like Fun & Gun offense that St. Louis employed, what Chip Kelly brought with his no huddle style, amongst others in the past: they are a flash in the pan long enough before teams catch up to it and shut it down. Was good for that year, but injury and experience caught up to him.

He wasn't good enough playing it honest. It is a pipe dream to think a guy that couldn't pull himself above water on a team that was desperate for any QB to step up and who invested in him tremendously, to come in here and become the next big thing. I have seen enough Vinny Testaverde/Quincy Carters/Drew Bledsoes over the past 20 years....

I suppose if he came in cheap to play backup maybe no harm, but we need to find Romo's replacement. RG III is not him and we all have seen too much of Jerry saying stuff like " oh we believe so and so can come in as starter ....." blah blah blah Having RGIII on this team is going to invite such stupidity all over again.

We would be handcuffing our hopes to a guy that some fans believe was a product of poor coaching/team system. uhhh hello......... what do you think our owner/coach is going to do.

I know that last statement is not very nice coming from a die hard Cowboy fan since Danny White was QB, but I am not sold (yet) on Jason Garrett, and I am not sold on Jerry Jones the GM at all. I mean look, if it weren't for sanity elsewhere in the room we would of been stuck with Manziel couple years ago. Jerry Jones the owner, yeah nice to know he will spend his money, but not GM. Lots of questions remain
 

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First I think blaming Weeden, etc as not being adequate feels like the scapegoating that has become too common place in the Cowboys in recent years.

I do find it comical that there are some people that whined to no end about us not having "leaders" for years and then wants to bring in the king of no leadership in RG3. That guy is all about himself, coddled, and apparently alienated his teammates. Yeah, that's what we want here.

The calls for Dez not being elite after having an injury-riddled year that our organization didn't do anything to help (he's 100%!) is more than comical

The need for speed to open up the offense - I like that.
 
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