News: Troy Aikman: 'I believe either Manziel or RG3 will be in Dallas' in 2016

[jobberone]

How does a back up QB do a make good contract? If things go as planned RG3 would have MAYBE a full games worth of snaps by the end of the year.

Make the 53. Be THE backup. Stay on the roster and not IR. Take snaps in practice. Take snaps in the preseason. Make his meetings for the QBs, film room, etc.

 

[Brooksey]

I'd rather draft a guy in the first round. If I had to choose I'd take Manziel. I don't care if he drinks beer or not, I see Cam newton out at strip clubs and night clubs and the media is silent.

If Manziel can be on time and be where he's supposed to be, he has more upside than RG3. RG3 is brittle and one hit away. No thanks.

 

[jobberone]

You all will learn soon.

When we have a new QB, and things start to look better in the future, I hope the rest of you are still crying over Robo, and better not come in cheering like you been wanted a new QB.(not just you, the people liking your post are the main culprits i see all the time.)

That's all supposition and not the topic. There is no data to suggest Romo is in decline. If you have anything share it.

 

[jobberone]

Oh yeah, because you say so.

Your opinion carries that much weight huh?

Funny thing is, off this forum, half of you would get flamed for some of the statements you make.

What data do you have that makes Romo not elite; use the entire domain without cherry picking.

 

[jobberone]

I have to agree here.

The better QBs like Manning, Brees or Palmer tend to still perform at high levels into their mid-30's

So who is to say.

And is not knees like Palmer and Manning are going thru although that might be next on the Romo injury parade.

in the meantime..

I just pray we draft a top QB and at least begin to think in terms of post-Romo.

This year was our wakeup call.

Do we hit the snooze button and roll over and hope..

or do we smell the coffee and go to work..?

QBs of that caliber tend to perform to 38 and sometimes longer like Manning, Earl Morrall, etc. That's championship level. Many play at an elite level to 40 occasionally beyond.

 

[silver]

...and Bill said he is what he is. A top 5 producer despite not starting 6 games.

BP referred to Everson Walls and OJ Anderson as a "hold the fort" types, and won a superbowl with them as starters.

I'm not saying that McFadden cant play, just that he's not a long term answer.

 

[silver]

Yep..

love your sig pic..

he still looks like he could play.

I can remember back in the 70's running around in my backyard dodging make-believe defenders like Roger used to do and heaving the ball downfield to an imaginary Drew Pearson and throwing the winning TD.

Roger was the greatest and came along at a time when we greatly needed a QB.

One can only hope there is another like him for us.

My favorite all time Cowboy

 

[CCBoy]

Commanders and GM Scot McCloughan are in no hurry to cut Robert Griffin III


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...an-are-in-no-hurry-to-cut-robert-griffin-iii/



MOBILE, Ala. – The Robert Griffin III era appeared to have ended during the 2015 season when Jay Gruden benched the one-time face of the franchise for Kirk Cousins, and then Cousins proceeded to have a record-setting campaign while helping Washington reach the playoffs. However, because of the uncertainty the Commanders face at quarterback, general manager Scot McCloughan said he is in no rush to release Griffin.

McCloughan, who while attending the Senior Bowl practices on Wednesday gave his first postseason interview, indicated that although the team could cut Griffin as early as the day after the Super Bowl – the league-wide date on which teams can begin placing players on waivers – most likely, Griffin would have to wait until March 9 to learn his fate.

Currently, Griffin remains the only Commanders quarterback under contract for the 2016 season because the team last offseason exercised the fifth-year option on his rookie deal. Cousins and backup Colt McCoy both will become free agents.

McCloughan will have to work around a large contract for Cousins]

Griffin dressed for only one game in 2015 and didn’t take a snap. The fifth-year option on his contract calls for him to make $16.155 million in 2016, but that deal is only guaranteed for injury. The Commanders are expected to release Griffin rather than absorb a cap hit of that magnitude for a backup quarterback. But McCloughan essentially is ensuring the team has an ace in the hole for the time being rather than simply cutting Griffin and leaving the team without a quarterback under contract...

 

[JoeKing]

His rookie year was the product of all other teams being hit with a offensive system that they weren't ready for. Much like Fun & Gun offense that St. Louis employed, what Chip Kelly brought with his no huddle style, amongst others in the past: they are a flash in the pan long enough before teams catch up to it and shut it down. Was good for that year, but injury and experience caught up to him.

He wasn't good enough playing it honest. It is a pipe dream to think a guy that couldn't pull himself above water on a team that was desperate for any QB to step up and who invested in him tremendously, to come in here and become the next big thing. I have seen enough Vinny Testaverde/Quincy Carters/Drew Bledsoes over the past 20 years....

I suppose if he came in cheap to play backup maybe no harm, but we need to find Romo's replacement. RG III is not him and we all have seen too much of Jerry saying stuff like " oh we believe so and so can come in as starter ....." blah blah blah Having RGIII on this team is going to invite such stupidity all over again.

We would be handcuffing our hopes to a guy that some fans believe was a product of poor coaching/team system. uhhh hello......... what do you think our owner/coach is going to do.

I know that last statement is not very nice coming from a die hard Cowboy fan since Danny White was QB, but I am not sold (yet) on Jason Garrett, and I am not sold on Jerry Jones the GM at all. I mean look, if it weren't for sanity elsewhere in the room we would of been stuck with Manziel couple years ago. Jerry Jones the owner, yeah nice to know he will spend his money, but not GM. Lots of questions remain

We will be drafting Treadwell with the 4th overall pick so how you going to get Romo's repalcement out of this draft? It's not happening. And I'm not saying RG3 is the long term solution to replace Romo. He is clearly a back up at best. Romo likes him and Jerry likes him so you not liking him means nothing. Cry and protest all you want... just get ready for him to come aboard.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Signing RGIII would give Jerry the cover he's looking for when he uses that top pick on someone other than a QB. If he signs Manziel he'll get lambasted by media and fans alike.

 

[CCBoy]

Cousins becomes an unrestricted free agent this offseason.

In Cousins' first full year as Washington's starting quarterback, he threw for 4,166 yards and 29 touchdowns. That's the most touchdown passes in Commanders' franchise history since Joe Theismann threw 29 in 1983, and the most passing yards in a single season in franchise history. In addition to his overall production, Cousins rushed for another five touchdowns, behind only Cam Newton's 10 on the year, and Cousins' 69.8 completion percentage was the highest in the NFL.

That gives McCloughan confidence in committing to Cousins long-term. But what will the contract terms ultimately be?

That's yet to be determined. But ESPN's John Keim's early estimate is that Cousins can field $17 million per year.

But Cousins has all of the power here. He's ultimately a free agent, and he can test the free agency pool if he would like to.

If the Commanders can't manage to sign Cousins to a long-term deal by March 7, they will be forced to utilize the franchise tag on Cousins. That would pay Cousins somewhere between $19 and $20 million, according to Tesfatsion...


http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...scot-mccloughan-cousins-long-term-deal-012716

 

[muck4doo]

Do they still have Kitna's phone number?

 

[Frozen700]

What data do you have that makes Romo not elite; use the entire domain without cherry picking.

Let's see here. The fact we gave this guy almost everything, and the results have been the same, lack of playoffs, the fact we can't skate by the second round when we do go to the playoffs.

Let's also not pretend that Romo was the pick master at one point. Yes he has had some good years, but he has also had some very awful ones.

He's not elite. Elite QB's don't need to play bus driver role aka Alex Smith. That's what he is. Alex Smith is a damn good QB but he's not elite.

You don't see belichick making Brady run the ball over 50% of the time.

Manning, because of his drop off in play and age has to become a bit of a bus driver, but 2 years ago? Nope

Big Ben, he's elite, is he playing bus driver? Nope

We have Dez, but yet here we are running the ball 50%+ of the time because we need to take a load off Romo. The elite QB.

Face it, we are not winning with him(championship) and we have not even come close.

Every time we decide to let Romo be Romo and play the role of Manning or Brady at the los its pick city, then this here forum starts calling for heads because we lack a running game or didn't run enough. So there is your proof, not everything is done or told by stats. You won't fool me, I watch the games.

When Romo is asked to take over, he gets overwhelmed and starts throwing ints. He has his occasional game where he dominates, but for the most part he can't do it consistently. Not an elite QB

 

[CCBoy]

Let's see here. The fact we gave this guy almost everything, and the results have been the same, lack of playoffs, the fact we can't skate by the second round when we do go to the playoffs.

Let's also not pretend that Romo was the pick master at one point. Yes he has had some good years, but he has also had some very awful ones.

He's not elite. Elite QB's don't need to play bus driver role aka Alex Smith. That's what he is. Alex Smith is a damn good QB but he's not elite.

You don't see belichick making Brady run the ball over 50% of the time.

Manning, because of his drop off in play and age has to become a bit of a bus driver, but 2 years ago? Nope

Big Ben, he's elite, is he playing bus driver? Nope

We have Dez, but yet here we are running the ball 50%+ of the time because we need to take a load off Romo. The elite QB.

Face it, we are not winning with him(championship) and we have not even come close.

Every time we decide to let Romo be Romo and play the role of Manning or Brady at the los its pick city, then this here forum starts calling for heads because we lack a running game or didn't run enough. So there is your proof, not everything is done or told by stats. You won't fool me, I watch the games.

When Romo is asked to take over, he gets overwhelmed and starts throwing ints. He has his occasional game where he dominates, but for the most part he can't do it consistently. Not an elite QB

Maybe one should just stick to the job of chick magnet...

 

[gmoney112]

Let's see here. The fact we gave this guy almost everything, and the results have been the same, lack of playoffs, the fact we can't skate by the second round when we do go to the playoffs.

Let's also not pretend that Romo was the pick master at one point. Yes he has had some good years, but he has also had some very awful ones.

He's not elite. Elite QB's don't need to play bus driver role aka Alex Smith. That's what he is. Alex Smith is a damn good QB but he's not elite.

You don't see belichick making Brady run the ball over 50% of the time.

Manning, because of his drop off in play and age has to become a bit of a bus driver, but 2 years ago? Nope

Big Ben, he's elite, is he playing bus driver? Nope

We have Dez, but yet here we are running the ball 50%+ of the time because we need to take a load off Romo. The elite QB.

Face it, we are not winning with him(championship) and we have not even come close.

Every time we decide to let Romo be Romo and play the role of Manning or Brady at the los its pick city, then this here forum starts calling for heads because we lack a running game or didn't run enough. So there is your proof, not everything is done or told by stats. You won't fool me, I watch the games.

When Romo is asked to take over, he gets overwhelmed and starts throwing ints. He has his occasional game where he dominates, but for the most part he can't do it consistently. Not an elite QB

So, no data.

 

[Frozen700]

Maybe one should just stick to the job of chick magnet...

Yeah because you don't agree.

Ok do this, and everyone who disagrees with me. Go to another forum( an all sports forum) post your Romo is elite, the best, ect ect topic. Link me, and if you have over 50% of the posts agree with you. I'll leave until training camp.

You all stay protected in this bubble, and make me look like some hater. Go do it, link me and everyone to see. If you are right I'll leave till TC and will never speak a bad word about Romo.

Now go ahead and tell me how the rest of the fans outside of Cowboys fans are idiots.

 

[Frozen700]

So, no data.

Read my last post. Take my challenge, test me.

Leave your bubble

 

[CCBoy]

Yeah because you don't agree.

Ok do this, and everyone who disagrees with me. Go to another forum( an all sports forum) post your Romo is elite, the best, ect ect topic. Link me, and if you have over 50% of the posts agree with you. I'll leave until training camp.

You all stay protected in this bubble, and make me look like some hater. Go do it, link me and everyone to see. If you are right I'll leave till TC and will never speak a bad word about Romo.

Now go ahead and tell me how the rest of the fans outside of Cowboys fans are idiots.

That was humor and needs no further explanation...carry on.

 

[Frozen700]

That was humor and needs no further explanation...carry on.

Yeah, I pretty much thought so.

I rest my case

 

[Frozen700]

That was humor and needs no further explanation...carry on.

But hey, glad you dig the chicks though broski