Trying not to overreact, but here's the next Cowboys HC

[maryquality]

Don't be surprised if our next HC is Kellen Moore....God help us!!

 

[jazzcat22]

We can get through the season while talking about it. How is it a meltdown? The majority of posters wanted McCarthy canned after GB in the playoffs, so it's pretty safe to say he's gone after this year.

Talking about it and constantly same whines are different.

 

[RonnieT24]

lol. the vikings are starting the backup the niners didn't want. not really comparable. and the vikings have had that "mcvay tree coach" for a few years now and made no noise

People also seem to forget that the Cowboys have beaten McVay himself the last two times they've met. Once with a backup QB. At some we may want to look at the players and why they play like crap at times.. Fix that and you could have me or you out there callin plays and still compete.

 

[RonnieT24]

What head coach with any self-respect would come to the Cowboys. Without total control, who would put their reputation on the line, and older has been. A new upstart. I prefer somebody Young innovative. Not afraid to open it up.

As has been said many times.. there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. Any coach who gets offered the job is going to take it no questions asked. The only time guys have turned down NFL gigs has been when they were already a "coach in waiting" at their own place. Like Garrett was when the Ravens offered him the job. That and Jerry was paying him head coach money as an OC anyway. He had no real incentive to leave at that point. Guys making half a mill to a mill a year as coordinators aint turnin down a chance to my 5-10 mill as the head man even if it means joining Jerry's circus. Even your more highly paid coordinators get a hefty raise when elevated to the big chair.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Klint Kubiak.

I’ve had a large enough sample size of the Prescott/McCarthy combo to know it’s never going to work. McCarthy’s WCO is outdated and not a good fit for Prescott, and we’re committed to Dak for the next 3-4 years whether we like it or not. Is Dak a part of the problem? Absolutely, but he’s going to be here.

We need a young, innovative offensive mind from the Shanahan tree to come in and run this offense. The running scheme needs to be completely rewired and the coach needs to get the best out of Prescott.

Kubiak and Ben Johnson(again) are likely the hot names among others. I agree with you but this isnt typically the route Jerry takes.

 

[JeffInDC]

people are now enamoured with shanahan tree, because we got arse whooped. in the meantime shanahan just lost a game to undermanned Vikings.

put kamara on this team and you will see a different team. put zeke on the saints and they won't look as good. the personnel matter.

O'Connell is a McVay guy, so he ALSO is part of the Shanahan tree

 

[Hawkeye0202]

We need a young, innovative offensive mind from the Shanahan tree to come in and run this offense.

FYI ......his brother Klay is an offensive assistant coach for the 49ers

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I agree with you but this isnt typically the route Jerry takes.

I agree but imagine Jerry having a chance to have all Kubiach brothers on staff......Klint, Klay is a 49er assist coach and Klein is a Cowboy scout.

 

[cowboyec]

jerry will hire kellen moore.
thats exactly the kind of hire i'd expect from him if he moves off mccarthy.

 

[MyFairLady]

I'd prefer a HC that isn't a retread. Young and innovative type please!

Our GM is 85 years old. We needed to pick a DC who is almost 70 just to stay within 15 years of him. A 40 year old man would look at Jerry with nothing but pity and sadness. If you want youth and innovation better look elsewhere.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I say it's 50 50, do our schemes look as well organized as other teams that beat up on us??


Talent: We're paying guys top dollar, but it seems that guys making substantially less are playing WAY better than the guys we're giving big money to

There is some truth in that, ultimately there are two sides to every debate and the truth typically sits in the middle somewhere.

I just think that with a shaky OL, no RBs that are really even above average, a lack of receiving options past Lamb it becomes very difficult to really evaluate the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of a scheme. Flip over to the defense and they once again went cheap at DT, and are counting on a good but limited Kenricks and two guys who have never played an NFL snap before to fix the LB issues. Before the season I was pretty well established on the side of this team has some roster flaws, and I need to see a larger sample size of guys not getting destroyed in the trenches before I really change my tune there. Ultimately we've complained about scheme under every coordinator for years now.

 

[JoeKing]

Klint Kubiak.

I’ve had a large enough sample size of the Prescott/McCarthy combo to know it’s never going to work. McCarthy’s WCO is outdated and not a good fit for Prescott, and we’re committed to Dak for the next 3-4 years whether we like it or not. Is Dak a part of the problem? Absolutely, but he’s going to be here.

We need a young, innovative offensive mind from the Shanahan tree to come in and run this offense. The running scheme needs to be completely rewired and the coach needs to get the best out of Prescott.

Just another man's opinion. It's not gospel. McCarthy's offense wasn't the problem on Sunday.

 

[Coogiguy03]

There is some truth in that, ultimately there are two sides to every debate and the truth typically sits in the middle somewhere.

I just think that with a shaky OL, no RBs that are really even above average, a lack of receiving options past Lamb it becomes very difficult to really evaluate the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of a scheme. Flip over to the defense and they once again went cheap at DT, and are counting on a good but limited Kenricks and two guys who have never played an NFL snap before to fix the LB issues. Before the season I was pretty well established on the side of this team has some roster flaws, and I need to see a larger sample size of guys not getting destroyed in the trenches before I really change my tune there. Ultimately we've complained about scheme under every coordinator for years now.

I agree totally my friend, but does a higher costing FA mean that they're going to do better??

 

[thunderpimp91]

I agree totally my friend, but does a higher costing FA mean that they're going to do better??

A few higher price FAs, and not even top of the market guys, but mid tier guys would be a major help in my opinion. You can get solid players without breaking the bank at positions like RB, DT, WR. I really like most of the 1st/2nd year players they are asking to get significant snaps this year (Guyton, Beebe, Overshown, Liufau, Carson, Mazi, Kneeland, etc) but its unrealistic to expect all of them to play at a high level right away. It would be extremely helpful if a guy like Mazi could be a rotational player behind a mid tier vet on a 1-2 year deal. If he improves that's great you can always find him snaps, but if he doesn't then you're super bowl hopes are ruined. Zeke would have been a great pickup if you had a legitimate RB ahead of him. If Zeke shows more than he has the last few years then thats great, you can always get him more involved and save your other RB some wear and tear for later in the year.....If Zeke doesnt show improvement then you still have a better option to rely on. Instead the Cowboys have elected to pay the top of their roster, and go cheap on positions they feel they can just throw bodies at for league minimum or close to salaries until someone sticks. You can do that on occasion but not with the frequency the Cowboys are trying it.

 

[Coogiguy03]

A few higher price FAs, and not even top of the market guys, but mid tier guys would be a major help in my opinion. You can get solid players without breaking the bank at positions like RB, DT, WR. I really like most of the 1st/2nd year players they are asking to get significant snaps this year (Guyton, Beebe, Overshown, Liufau, Carson, Mazi, Kneeland, etc) but its unrealistic to expect all of them to play at a high level right away. It would be extremely helpful if a guy like Mazi could be a rotational player behind a mid tier vet on a 1-2 year deal. If he improves that's great you can always find him snaps, but if he doesn't then you're super bowl hopes are ruined. Zeke would have been a great pickup if you had a legitimate RB ahead of him. If Zeke shows more than he has the last few years then thats great, you can always get him more involved and save your other RB some wear and tear for later in the year.....If Zeke doesnt show improvement then you still have a better option to rely on. Instead the Cowboys have elected to pay the top of their roster, and go cheap on positions they feel they can just throw bodies at for league minimum or close to salaries until someone sticks. You can do that on occasion but not with the frequency the Cowboys are trying it.

all of this sounds so great mean I swear, I just feel like that wasn't in their thinking, they wanted to do things the easy way/most cost effective

 

[KingCorcoran]

Jerry Jones does not like to pay top dollar for a head coach. There will be competition for the sought after candidates. The Jets, Giants, Bears, Eagles, Bills and Jaguars will all be “in the market”. Jerry is going to have to part with some coin to get the best.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Klint Kubiak.

I’ve had a large enough sample size of the Prescott/McCarthy combo to know it’s never going to work. McCarthy’s WCO is outdated and not a good fit for Prescott, and we’re committed to Dak for the next 3-4 years whether we like it or not. Is Dak a part of the problem? Absolutely, but he’s going to be here.

We need a young, innovative offensive mind from the Shanahan tree to come in and run this offense. The running scheme needs to be completely rewired and the coach needs to get the best out of Prescott.

Hes not a shanahan guy. He spent more time under Zimmer. I'm confused as to why people call him a Shanahan tree guy.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Jerry dosent want an inexperienced guy, unless it's his scout buddy's son. If that's the case he gets 10 years to learn on the job and be worse than mediocre as a coach.

 

[Sammy]

Don't be surprised if our next HC is Kellen Moore....God help us!!

Yep. He left because he and MM had conflicting styles. So if MM isn't successful, then Kellen must be, right?

 

[805BoysInBlue]

I agree totally my friend, but does a higher costing FA mean that they're going to do better??

Danielle Hunter and Judon would've definitely helped against the run. Aaron Jones running style would've helped on offense for sure.