Ultimate Petitti Thread...

[Jimz31]

This type of thread is really getting old. There is no one we can replace him with, get over it. He is our RT until next year's training camp. I predict he will also be the starter coming out of TC next year after another year in the weight room and not having to spend the entire off season losing weight.

Yep...it is getting old. Week after week....same thing....same type of performance.

 

[Paniolo22]

Enough of the "He's a sixth-rounder..." excuse.

Mr. Irrevelant, the last man taken in the draft was/is even a starter in theis league.

This is the NFL, if you can't handle it, then buh-bye.

This year, Pettiti has made guys look like Hof'ers. Peppers =hasn't had a sack since 12/4, FCOL. Today he looks like he can't be stopped.

Pettiti gets a serious pass here bacause his dad posts here occasionally....that's all there is to it.

If his name were Tucker, he'd be crucified. And that is the truth.

Wahhhh...wahhh....he's a sixth rounder. So what? He's on the field, should I expect crap for play?

Perhaps this is more of an indictment on BP as he can't evaluate talent or he is putting a guy into t a starting position that shouldn't be there......yet.

Either way you look at it, it's not good for BP.

Now, having said that, I expect Petitti to get better next year. I hope he makes it and becomes a shut-down tackle, but he's got more work to do than probably any other tackle in this league.

Hopefully, we'll hire an o-line coach and not a TE coach to teach o-line.

But....give me a break on the "He's a sixth-rounder..." crap. Cuz that is exactly what it is.

You contradict yourself by saying you expect him to be better next year. How exactly is he supposed to do that? Get stronger? A year of experience maybe? You don't pick sixth round tackles to be immediate starters in this league. Does that mean we can't be pissed at him when he plays crappy, no. But guess what? He's a ROOKIE 6th round pick. If he were a vet playing like this a la Ryan Young, would you expect HIM to play better next year? No. You cut those players which is what we did.

BTW, saying he gets a pass because his dad posts here is weak. People are courteous to Pitt Dawg and that is the extent of it. Some posters have called RP every freakin' name in the book, how is that protecting him? Leave the dads out of this, THAT is getting old.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

No I didn't however, I honestly expected better protection than what he has gotten this year.

All of the talk by BP prior to the season was about protection.....I'll guarantee you that this isn't what he had in mind. NOBODY had this in mind.

If the same thing happens once (NE) it's an anomaly. Twice (Buffalo) it's a coincidence. The third time (Dallas) signifies a trend.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Once again, let's give him a pass then....."Gee, it's not his fault, he shouldn't even be starting." or "C'mon guys, he was a sixth round draft choice."

I guess for the last game of the season, I should expect 6 sacks allowed by him, that way, if he gives up less, I'm a happy guy.

I wish I had a job where I could get beat every day and still keep it. Man, the life that some people have.

What is wrong with expecting a guy to do his job?

You just don't get I guess. He isn't doing his job. His job was to learn the NFL game and get into shape this year. Hopefully he could see the field next year. I think he has done a commendable job this year and deserves some credit. You don't expect a first year med student to perform brain surgery do you?

 

[superpunk]

The false start on a designed sneak play is inexcusable. I cant remember the last time I saw a Tackle draw a false start penalty on a 3rd and inches sneak.

Getting beat by Mr. Peppers is one thing but doing things that I just mentioned is mental and inexcusable.

- Mike G.

OMFG. I wanted to kill him. RT, top priority next year. Well, RT and K, they're like 1 and 1a.

 

[Dough Boy]

I'd say Cundiff is on borrowed time. Petitti earned a roster spot next year and probably beyond.

Just curious Hos, why has Petitti already earned a roster spot next year and beyond. What has he did to day to justify your statement? I think the kid has potential and has to show signifigant improvement over the offseason, but clearly he has done nothing to date worthy of your statement.

I don't think he should be cut, but I don't think he has earned a spot for next year and beyond. The kid needs to prove himself in the offseason. He needs to get alot stronger. He needs to hit the film room to pick up on tendandcies. He needs to get a little nasiter (ie Erick Williams). He has a lot of work ahead of him. I hope he makes, but he needs to work overtime this offseason.

 

[jacs]

Ifind it funny how people make excuses for Ware by saying "well he is learning a new position since he as a DE in college" and he was a 1st rounder while people just want to hang Petitti whom is a 6th rounder and wasnt he a LTin college?

Petitti is inconsistent but he is no chump either, he allowed 3 sacks to Peppers, 4 to Strahan (2 per game), 0 to Kearse (too name a few) unlike Tucker who allowed 2 to Trent Cole or 4 to Phillip Daniels and Tucker is in his 3rd year.

Is there anyone better right now to replace him?

If there was he would have been there by now.

 

[Dough Boy]

You don't expect a first year med student to perform brain surgery do you?

No I don't, but if he is operating on my son, then I hope he is not in over his head. Guys, the bottom line is he is playing. He is playing not so well. I hope he plays better next year, but this year, he is not playing well. Two weeks in a row, the Def player of the week could be the DE that faced him. Thats not good. The fact that he got drafted in the 6th means nothing to Rob. I'm willing to bet, this board makes more excuses for Rob than he or his father does. I'm very hopeful that he will make major strides in the offseason. But this year - he didn't play well.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yep...it is getting old. Week after week....same thing....same type of performance.

and the constant b1tching and moaning after every performance is getting old as well

it's out of our hands, and a thread each week isn't helping matters

 

[superpunk]

Ifind it funny how people make excuses for Ware by saying "well he is learning a new position since he as a DE in college" and he was a 1st rounder while people just want to hang Petitti whom is a 6th rounder and wasnt he a LTin college?

Petitti is inconsistent but he is no chump either, he allowed 3 sacks to Peppers, 4 to Strahan (2 per game), 0 to Kearse (too name a few) unlike Tucker who allowed 2 to Trent Cole or 4 to Phillip Daniels and Tucker is in his 3rd year.

Is there anyone better right now to replace him?

If there was he would have been there by now.

Just because there's no one better doesn't mean we can't call for his head. He was awful today. And he has been for a while. Hell, he's been awful since we stopped sending a back and a TE over there to help him. This is a position that needs addressed next year, at least as it currently stands. Maybe he'll kick *** this offseason. I hope for the best. But his performance now, rookie or no, is unacceptable for an NFL player.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Ifind it funny how people make excuses for Ware by saying "well he is learning a new position since he as a DE in college" and he was a 1st rounder while people just want to hang Petitti whom is a 6th rounder and wasnt he a LTin college?

Petitti is inconsistent but he is no chump either, he allowed 3 sacks to Peppers, 4 to Strahan (2 per game), 0 to Kearse (too name a few) unlike Tucker who allowed 2 to Trent Cole or 4 to Phillip Daniels and Tucker is in his 3rd year.

Is there anyone better right now to replace him?

If there was he would have been there by now.

Maybe you didn't read my post, but Pettiti only gave up 2 sacks and one was on a ridiculous roll out that he never stood a chance on. Peppers' inside move early on schooled him but there's a reason that Peppers is looking at another All-Pro season.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Winky nailed it. As long as the player is truly giving his all, how can you blame him for not playing well? Blame the coach for not having anything better to replace him with.

I think Petitti will be vastly improved next year, so I wouldn't be writing him off for good just yet. It's crazy to do that for any rookie.

 

[jobberone]

Just curious Hos, why has Petitti already earned a roster spot next year and beyond. What has he did to day to justify your statement? I think the kid has potential and has to show signifigant improvement over the offseason, but clearly he has done nothing to date worthy of your statement.

I don't think he should be cut, but I don't think he has earned a spot for next year and beyond. The kid needs to prove himself in the offseason. He needs to get alot stronger. He needs to hit the film room to pick up on tendandcies. He needs to get a little nasiter (ie Erick Williams). He has a lot of work ahead of him. I hope he makes, but he needs to work overtime this offseason.

While I agree with this post as everyone needs to prove himself as deserving a roster spot much less a starter's position, I feel some people have gone way overboard with their criticism of Rob.

First, while I don't excuse his mistakes he has played better than most rookie OL coming into this league irregardless of draft position. Sure some play at a high level but in general OL take some time to learn their position. I think Rob has played pretty well considering the rest of the OL play, the conservative game plans, his learning curve, Bledsoe, and rookie running backs as well as teams basically knowing what we are going to run and loading up the box and blitzes for it.

The guy has played thru injuries because he had no choice. We had no one behind him. And when he plays below his talent level he gets criticized. I say he deserves an attaboy for playing thru injuries that would put a lot of NFL OL on the bench.

Some others got it right IMO when they criticized Parcells for not going after more backup at tackle. My only question and one only the coaching staff can answer is who were they going to get after Rogers bailed. You can't fault the coaching staff too much (some maybe) for counting on Rogers and using Rob, Tucker and Vollers as backups while trying to funnel resources to other areas the team needed help. So there isn't much fire there either.

No one could count on Rivera hurting himself which IMO has had a major impact on his playing as well as we expected. Also look at what Rivera is playing with. A rookie RT thrown to the wolves and often injured himself and a not so great Center duo.

Throw in Flo going down and I'm amazed at the job these guys are doing which is playing their hearts out and the job the coaches have done with the mess the OL is in and we're still talking playoffs with the tough schedule we have.

Sure I'd like a line like the one's with Neely and Wright or Newton, Allen et al but you have to play with the cards you are dealt.

And I saw very little threads crying for Flo's head when he made false starts against speed rushers. For crying out loud the guy was playing against Peppers who is one of the best DEs in the league and gets game planned for. Take that into account when you look at his production and take into consideration Carolina's overall defensive status in the league.

Yes, I agree that the tackle play was subpar this year especially if you have Dallas Cowboy expectations. But don't wig out when backups with little experience play about like you'd expect them to or even better.

Be thankful they are playing well enough for us to be in the playoff hunt and have a winning record; and only blown out of one game all year.

 

[TheHustler]

Tucker is worse. Tucker gives up 2-4 sacks every weekend.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

While I agree with this post as everyone needs to prove himself as deserving a roster spot much less a starter's position, I feel some people have gone way overboard with their criticism of Rob.

First, while I don't excuse his mistakes he has played better than most rookie OL coming into this league irregardless of draft position. Sure some play at a high level but in general OL take some time to learn their position. I think Rob has played pretty well considering the rest of the OL play, the conservative game plans, his learning curve, Bledsoe, and rookie running backs as well as teams basically knowing what we are going to run and loading up the box and blitzes for it.

The guy has played thru injuries because he had no choice. We had no one behind him. And when he plays below his talent level he gets criticized. I say he deserves an attaboy for playing thru injuries that would put a lot of NFL OL on the bench.

Some others got it right IMO when they criticized Parcells for not going after more backup at tackle. My only question and one only the coaching staff can answer is who were they going to get after Rogers bailed. You can't fault the coaching staff too much (some maybe) for counting on Rogers and using Rob, Tucker and Vollers as backups while trying to funnel resources to other areas the team needed help. So there isn't much fire there either.

No one could count on Rivera hurting himself which IMO has had a major impact on his playing as well as we expected. Also look at what Rivera is playing with. A rookie RT thrown to the wolves and often injured himself and a not so great Center duo.

Throw in Flo going down and I'm amazed at the job these guys are doing which is playing their hearts out and the job the coaches have done with the mess the OL is in and we're still talking playoffs with the tough schedule we have.

Sure I'd like a line like the one's with Neely and Wright or Newton, Allen et al but you have to play with the cards you are dealt.

And I saw very little threads crying for Flo's head when he made false starts against speed rushers. For crying out loud the guy was playing against Peppers who is one of the best DEs in the league and gets game planned for. Take that into account when you look at his production and take into consideration Carolina's overall defensive status in the league.

Yes, I agree that the tackle play was subpar this year especially if you have Dallas Cowboy expectations. But don't wig out when backups with little experience play about like you'd expect them to or even better.

Be thankful they are playing well enough for us to be in the playoff hunt and have a winning record; and only blown out of one game all year.

great post

and consider this, OT is one of the hardest positions for rookies to transition too

Pettiti isn't doing well, hell, he isn't even holding it down at RT, but his performance for the majority of this year, is the norm for rookie OTs

 

[Hiero]

He will be on the team for a few years, but I think he'd be better off as a good backup. If we decide to fix the center and guard positions I could live with Rob out there ( assuming Flozell is back next year).

 

[Qwickdraw]

My how the tone has changed.


Wouldn't you say so, Rack?


: :laugh2: :

 

[Wood]

when Parcells said "he would die before he lets Rob fail" - what exactly did that mean? Does it mean leaving the kid in there while his confidence is in free-fall? Who is the back-up RT on this team...is he that bad that he can't get in there and not give up 3 sacks a week..which is the par for Rob and Torrin?

 

[kingwhicker]

I'm sure the coaching staff was not expecting Rob to be the full time starter this season when he was drafted- they were forced to use him- he's been very bad at times, but you can't expect a load out of him, I mean he was a 6th round pick for a reason. I think he has a future in the league, he just isn't going to be the next Erik Williams.

 

[kingwhicker]

I'll take Petitti over Tucker anyday of the week-Tucker's had three years to keep getting worse and worse.