Ultimate Petitti Thread...

[Maikeru-sama]

So if you say Coaching is 20% of the blame, who is accountable for the other 20%?

I think and hope Rob will develop into a Pro Bowler, but todate he has not played all that well.

Why is he not progressing? Could Rob be apart of the reason? I don't know - but clearly some blame goes with the player.

Why was he drafted? to come in and compete. many mediots gave him zero chance to make the team. Practice squad material was tossed around. I think it is a tribute that he made the team and has started for 15 games. It is also an indicment on the talent level of the O-Line. I do think Rob is the best we have to put out there at RT. That being said, he is just the best of the worst. I do think he will be a whole lot better next season once he gets a full offseason under his belt.

Nope. I said the Coaching Staff has to shoulder 80% of the blame, 20% is on Mr. Petitti.

Hmmm...a QB notorious for patting the ball and holding onto it for too long and fumbling is signed, sealed and deliver.

And the 1st bright idea the Big Whigs upstairs is...hmmm, let's draft a 6th Round LT, make him change his position and protect our newly acquired QB who has the attributes just mentioned.

Sorry...the braintrust has to shoulder most of this. With the exception of being called for a false start on a freakin sneak on 3rd and inches, Mr. Petitti gave me just what I expected against Strahan, U, Kearse etc etc.

I put Petitti right in the boat with the Peterman and Rogers Affair.

- Mike G.

 

[Dough Boy]

Okay, let me say it this way then.

I'll be shocked if he isn't on this team for a long time. I simply don't agree with the assessments at all and it has nothing to do with his Father being a member here.

He's faced a nightmare lineup of DE's. He's played hurt. He's played a new position.

Has he been perfect? Of course not. But he's nowhere near as bad as some make him out to be or he'd be riding pine by now.

I'm just being consistent. I believe in the refiner's fire. Every lesson he's been taught by DEs this year is a chapter in a book. I think he's got potential.

Funny how early on in the year before he got beat up no one had negative things to say. Now after a couple of injuries and some games not as good as the start of the year and suddenly fingers are pointed.

I agree with you on this one. I think the guy has a load of potential. He has faced some good DE's, but he will face those same guys next year. I hope that when next year roles around, he has a few tricks up his sleeve for those guys.

He is not as bad as most make him out to be, but he deserves more blame than most want to lay on him. He is playing well for a sixth rounder learning a new position. He is not playing well for a starter on a play-off caliber team. (play-off caliber this year which).

 

[Hostile]

I agree with you on this one. I think the guy has a load of potential. He has faced some good DE's, but he will face those same guys next year. I hope that when next year roles around, he has a few tricks up his sleeve for those guys.

He is not as bad as most make him out to be, but he deserves more blame than most want to lay on him. He is playing well for a sixth rounder learning a new position. He is not playing well for a starter on a play-off caliber team. (play-off caliber this year which).

I'm not happy with the OL as a whole unit much more than I am willing to single out individual players.

I don't think we block nasty enough. That is philosophy more than players.

I do think 2 of our OL can get better and need to.

I just don't see this kid as the weak link on that line.

 

[Jimz31]

I really think the Coaching staff is 80% or more to blame here. Why is not progressing? Why is he allowed to "hold the team hostage" with his poor play? Why was he drafted?

A Rookie Sixth round pick learning a new position is suppose to protect your Statue QB on a regular basis....Who the hell have confidence in that plan?

Now that is the guy we should be ripping up...

- Mike G.

Another point that I have brought up for consideration, but seems to get lost in translation..........

Is it more of an indictment on Pettiti or BP?

All BP talked about when he brought Bledsoe in here was that he needed protection. That SHOULD have been BP's main area of focus if he wanted an offense at all. Instead, the trading deadline came and passed....when he becomes enamored with someone, it is hard for him to forget about them.

 

[Jimz31]

I'm not happy with the OL as a whole unit much more than I am willing to single out individual players.

I don't think we block nasty enough. That is philosophy more than players.

I do think 2 of our OL can get better and need to.

I just don't see this kid as the weak link on that line.

OK...at THIS POINT, who do you consider the weak link?

 

[Hostile]

OK...at THIS POINT, who do you consider the weak link?

Given salary, experience, injury, performance, and expectations I'd say Rivera has been the most disappointing.

Call me silly. I expect more from vested veterans who get large bonuses than I do rookies.

 

[Jimz31]

Given salary, experience, injury, performance, and expectations I'd say Rivera has been the most disappointing.

Call me silly. I expect more from vested veterans who get large bonuses than I do rookies.

All of that taken together, I agree with you.

 

[Dough Boy]

I'm not happy with the OL as a whole unit much more than I am willing to single out individual players.

I don't think we block nasty enough. That is philosophy more than players.

I do think 2 of our OL can get better and need to.

I just don't see this kid as the weak link on that line.

Weak link on this line is a rather fluid concept. As a unit, we are beyond bad. The case can be made that all five current starters are in over their heads.

Tucker - I keep hearing he is the best athelete on this team but I don't see it.

Allen - Vet is past his prime. He has initial pop, then his legs stop driving. He is no longer good in space.

Johnson - needs to get stronger in lower body.

Marco - I hope its the back injury, but he didn't look like a 4 time Pro Bowler to me.

Rob - Looks overmatched. Plays like a sixth round draft pick.

We are not nasty. We don't cut guys on the backside. We don't cut guys on screens. Not a lot of pancakes. I rarely see a D-Lineman driven into the ground.

 

[Jimz31]

Let's all get something straight here.....it has come to my attention that I have accused this FORUM of protecting Pettiti.

Let me just say that I have NEVER done that. I have said that there are posters on this board that don't want to say anything negative about him due to his dad being on here. Those posters that I am talking about are the ones that are normally harder on players that have done far less and are now making excuses for him.

THAT is the only problem I have.

If I saw this forum "protecting" Pettiti, then this board would have then lost ALL credibility. I don't see that happening, and it honestly wouldn't have even crossed my mind that the mods would even go that far. I have more respect for them to think that.

 

[trickblue]

Petitti sux... we should have forseen this before last years draft... traded up 6 rounds and taken Robert Gallery...

Guys... get real... Petitti has been a VERY pleasant surprise...

Has he struggled at times? yes... but for the most part, he has been pretty darn solid...

He changed positions and he is part of a much maligned OL that has gotten us 9 wins thus far...

Oh... and which of you are ready to take on Julius Peppers... PM me if you are...

 

[Hostile]

Weak link on this line is a rather fluid concept. As a unit, we are beyond bad. The case can be made that all five current starters are in over their heads.

Tucker - I keep hearing he is the best athelete on this team but I don't see it.

Allen - Vet is past his prime. He has initial pop, then his legs stop driving. He is no longer good in space.

Johnson - needs to get stronger in lower body.

Marco - I hope its the back injury, but he didn't look like a 4 time Pro Bowler to me.

Rob - Looks overmatched. Plays like a sixth round draft pick.

We are not nasty. We don't cut guys on the backside. We don't cut guys on screens. Not a lot of pancakes. I rarely see a D-Lineman driven into the ground.

I go back to something I already said, our OL philosophy doesn't sell me.

We have the people in place to be a much better OL, in my opinion. I don't think we are near nasty enough for guys the size of the people we have.

That is my gripe more than on any individual player.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Another point that I have brought up for consideration, but seems to get lost in translation..........

Is it more of an indictment on Pettiti or BP?

All BP talked about when he brought Bledsoe in here was that he needed protection. That SHOULD have been BP's main area of focus if he wanted an offense at all. Instead, the trading deadline came and passed....when he becomes enamored with someone, it is hard for him to forget about them.

Bingo....I knew me and you were going to be on the same page before Christmas was over with.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Petitti sux... we should have forseen this before last years draft... traded up 6 rounds and taken Robert Gallery...

Guys... get real... Petitti has been a VERY pleasant surprise...

Has he struggled at times? yes... but for the most part, he has been pretty darn solid...

He changed positions and he is part of a much maligned OL that has gotten us 9 wins thus far...

Oh... and which of you are ready to take on Julius Peppers... PM me if you are...

I dont know about that.

I dont know if I want to see this guy manning the Right Side next year. Next year we will have some pretty damn good draft picks, based on how Parcells has drafted and we should really be trying to make a run for getting deep in the playoffs.

Parcells talked about a offensive lineman, I think with the Jets held him hostage, and I think this year, Petitti (Parcells' own fault) held him hostage and I dont know if Big Bill makes the same mistake again.

 

[like a dog]

Early in the year he was getting help on almost every play. This is not an acceptable situation and he was barely adequate even given that. Now that he is forced to play (sometimes) as most NFL RTs are on a play by play basis he is failing consistently in every phase of the game. The Cowboys need an upgrade at RT, badly.

 

[like a dog]

Petitti sux... we should have forseen this before last years draft... traded up 6 rounds and taken Robert Gallery...

Guys... get real... Petitti has been a VERY pleasant surprise...

Has he struggled at times? yes... but for the most part, he has been pretty darn solid...

He changed positions and he is part of a much maligned OL that has gotten us 9 wins thus far...

Oh... and which of you are ready to take on Julius Peppers... PM me if you are...

The last line of this post is so infantile that I am shocked an adult would write it. Oh yeah! Why don't you do it! Double dog dare you!

Well here is a list of reasons:
1. I am 6'5'' 180 pounds
2. I have never received training as an offensive lineman
3. I am not payed several hundred thousand dollars a year to do so

I could go on. How could you possibly believe that the last line of your post could serve as anything resembling a point?

And to those who say that Pettiti is not the weak link on the line, are you kidding me? His father does seem like a nice man and I understand the impetus on the part of some of the more established posters on this board to make it a pleasant place for such a distinguished guest, but the fact of the matter is that his son is just not getting it done. And from what I have seen there has been no indication that he has any potential of ever properly getting it done.

I challenge anybody on this board to name a worse starting RT in the NFL then Rob Pettiti. There are plenty of options given all the injuries. But I don't believe that such a person exists.

 

[like a dog]

Also, Robert Gallery was drafted in 2004, not last year. The top tackle in last years draft was Jamal Brown out of Oklahoma, followed by Alex Barron from FSU who has actually outpreformed Brown.

 

[Jimz31]

I challenge anybody on this board to name a worse starting RT in the NFL then Rob Pettiti. There are plenty of options given all the injuries. But I don't believe that such a person exists.

While I don't think he is the worst, He is the one that we watch most of the time, so that is who is at the fore-front of our thoughts.

It'll be interesting the answers you do get though....if any.

 

[sacase]

Most of you are truly pathetic. The kid has gone against some of the NFL's best pass rushers and in some cases got abused. But hey its a steep learning curve.

How bad must that LT for Carolina to allow WARE who hadn't had a sack since week 5 to have 3 sacks on him? Ware is a rookie not an elite pass rusher like Strahan.

Oh and for all the hate against Cundiff. Yeah he sucks so bad because he can't get up on the line and block someone so he can kick the ball without someone in his face. Get a freaking grip Cundiff missed twice because of pressure up the middle. THat is on the line!

Some of you need a reality check. If your so good of talent scouts why the hell are you sitting behind a computer talking about who should and shouldn't play. How come you are not employed by a NFL team? Wait wait I know, you attend every practice so you know how good these guys are right? Get a grip people. BP has forgot more about football than the cowboys zone collective will ever know.

 

[Silverstar]

BP has forgot more about football than the cowboys zone collective will ever know.

Quote of the day!

 

[Jimz31]

Some of you need a reality check. If your so good of talent scouts why the hell are you sitting behind a computer talking about who should and shouldn't play. How come you are not employed by a NFL team? Wait wait I know, you attend every practice so you know how good these guys are right? Get a grip people. BP has forgot more about football than the cowboys zone collective will ever know.

Here we go with the "Are you the head coach?" crap.

I guess that BP is beyond question, right?