Update: Dolphins agree to deal with Jeff Ireland...To leave immediately

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Make Jason Garrett in charge of the scouting department as well .....

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InmanRoshi;1874185 said:
I would buy that, except for the fact that we didn't draft a single contributor as a Day 2 pick or undrafted free agent in ten years. Jerry probably had a big hand in selecting the high profile picks like Quincy .. but Day 2 picks and undrafted free agents are where the scouting leg work shines.
Bingo. Hopefully Jerry has learned his lesson. I have my doubts. I know I wouldn't mind having Parcells/Ireland in my draft room. The Dolphins will be turned around quickly.
 

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khiladi;1874182 said:
Why? He is going to be General Manager. And legally, the move can't be just a name change. He has all the authority he needs, and he will be with a premiere franchise, in a premiere location. He will be living in Miami. With all due respect to Dallas, Dallas is definitely no Miami, especially for a guy in his late 30s.

I'm sure he would have taken the job even if Parcells wasn't there. It is a promotion, the guy has control. Anybody in their right mind would take it, especially if being a GM was their dream job.

I don't know about you but if I hated the person who was going to be my boss as much as some people around here want to believe every one who worked under Parcells during his time here, I simply wouldn't work for him.

It sounds to me like IR enjoyed his relationship with Parcells. Much to your disappointment I'm sure.:)
 
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HomeOfLegends;1873957 said:
ego...he could of kept Ireland with out giving up any power and just handling Ireland a label like Parcells did but someone who might not know any better would think different.

WRONG... you can't make him GM in name only. You'll have to find something else to bash Jerry about! :rolleyes:
 

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Given Jerry Jones' history, this is nothing short of devastating.

I fully expect a return to 5-11 in the next few years.
 

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Double Trouble;1874202 said:
Given Jerry Jones' history, this is nothing short of devastating.

I fully expect a return to 5-11 in the next few years.

:rolleyes:
 

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Dave_in-NC;1874196 said:
I don't know about you but if I hated the person who was going to be my boss as much as some people around here want to believe every one who worked under Parcells during his time here, I simply wouldn't work for him.

It sounds to me like IR enjoyed his relationship with Parcells. Much to your disappointment I'm sure.:)

Who said he hated Parcells? There are plenty of people that go to work that like their boss, are neutral to him, hate him, love him, adore him, and so on. They balance that with their priorities.

Miami, plenty of control, sunny weather all day long, beautiful latino girls, the beach... it's a dream for a guy like myself, I mean Ireland....
 

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Double Trouble;1874202 said:
Given Jerry Jones' history, this is nothing short of devastating.

I fully expect a return to 5-11 in the next few years.

Why Jerry is the one who changed the structure of how talent would be evaluated and brought in. He has listened to the people he has been paying to scout talent and taking their advice even over that of his coaches. BP wanted Kevin Williams DT and the scouting department insisted on Newman and they got it. In FA it was Jerry who went out and got TO and Davis and Hamlin. I don't think Jerry is a stupid man and think he has learned from mistakes he has made in the past.
 

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Hostile;1874140 said:
I'm pleased for Jeff Ireland. He deserves it.

We'll be all right. Not a doubt in my mind.

Hos, you were correct about Ireland being announced today! I remember we were discussing it this morning.

Why are you so sure we'll be alright? You believe that Tom C. (sp?) is up to the task? Or do you think JJ is going to bring someone else in?

I'm assuming that everyone gets a move up vertically in the scouting department, and that Tom C. takes his place.
 

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Like a thief in the night.. the fat man begins the ransacking.
 

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khiladi;1874205 said:
Who said he hated Parcells? There are plenty of people that go to work that like their boss, are neutral to him, hate him, love him, adore him, and so on. They balance that with their priorities.

Miami, plenty of control, sunny weather all day long, beautiful latino girls, the beach... it's a dream for a guy like myself, I mean Ireland....

:laugh2: You and me both.
 

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Double Trouble;1874202 said:
Given Jerry Jones' history, this is nothing short of devastating.

I fully expect a return to 5-11 in the next few years.

Oh gosh, well you better go buy some Dolphins gear then, they'll be winning the superbowl in no time. :rolleyes:
 

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People forget about Wade in this whole picture. One thing Jerry has shown is that he evolves, and listens to people. Maybe Jerry believes that Wade excels at evaluating talent, and there is no reason to not believe it, provided this year's draft class. Wade may play an important role in this organization for a long time.

As I said before, somebody on this forum quoted Dan Reeves as saying that Wade is an excellent evaluator of talent.
 

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It's official: Ireland's gone ... "immediately"

2:41 PM Wed, Jan 02, 2008 | Permalink
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The Dolphins just put out a press release, trumpeting the hire of Cowboys director of college and pro scouting Jeff Ireland as the team's new general manager, something Todd reported on a little while ago. The important piece of news on this expected move is that Miami is saying it is "immediate", meaning the Cowboys won't force him to stay in Dallas through the draft, as some thought they would.

Here's what the Dolphins put out. And here's a link with a nice picture of Tuna and his new right-hand man.
The Miami Dolphins today named Jeff Ireland as their new general manager, effective immediately. Ireland joins the Dolphins after a seven-year stint with the Dallas Cowboys, including the past three as the team’s Vice President of College and Pro Scouting. In fact, of the 53 players on the current Cowboys team, which went 13-3 and won the NFC East in 2007, 38 were acquired over the last three years, including 12 of the club’s 22 starters.​
“I am excited about joining the Dolphins as their general manager,” Ireland said. “I know the great tradition of the team, and in my mind they are one of the flagship franchises in the NFL. They have a great owner in Wayne Huizenga, who I know is committed to making the Dolphins into winners once again. I am looking forward to working with him and everyone else in Miami to achieve that goal.

“I also want to thank Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys organization. I enjoyed my tenure with the team, and I would not be where I am today without the help of so many people there.”
Prior to being elevated to his most recent role with the Cowboys in 2005, Ireland had served as national scout with Dallas since 2001, during which time he evaluated the top collegiate talent in the country. In his four years in that post, the Cowboys drafted four Pro Bowl performers in safety Roy Williams (D1, 2002), center Andre Gurode (D2a, 2002), cornerback Terence Newman (D1, 2003) and tight end Jason Witten (D3, 2003).

Ireland got his start in the NFL as a scout with the Kansas City Chiefs, where he spent the 1997-2000 seasons. He also was a scout for the National Football Scouting combine from 1994-96.
Before becoming an NFL scout, Ireland coached the special teams at the University of North Texas from 1992-93. This followed his playing career at Baylor University, where he was a kicker from 1988-91.

A native of Abilene, Texas, Ireland is the stepson of Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Fame linebacker/center E.J. Holub and the grandson of former Philadelphia Eagles player and longtime Chicago Bears personnel man Jim Parmer.
 
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Everlastingxxx;1874116 said:
This bothers me because Parcells came to lay a foundation for the Cowboys...but now he is ripping it out? I dunno, i don’t understand it all and i guess if nobody else is bothered by it then i shouldn’t.


My sentiments exactly. BP was supposed to lay the foundation for the club, so cherry-picking key elements after he leaves surely wasn't what Jerry had in mind. I wouldn't doubt that all the ripping Parcells got from the media and former players didn't help, but what are you gonna do? Thank Ireland for his efforts and move on.
 

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khiladi;1874219 said:
People forget about Wade in this whole picture. One thing Jerry has shown is that he evolves, and listens to people. Maybe Jerry believes that Wade excels at evaluating talent, and there is no reason to not believe it, provided this year's draft class. Wade may play an important role in this organization for a long time.

As I said before, somebody on this forum quoted Dan Reeves as saying that Wade is an excellent evaluator of talent.

I hope your right. Unless JJ goes nuts about possibly losing Garrett and Wade goes bye bye.:eek:
 

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WoodysGirl;1874221 said:
It's official: Ireland's gone ... "immediately"

2:41 PM Wed, Jan 02, 2008 | Permalink
Albert Breer http://www.***BANNED-URL***/blogs/images/email-icon.jpg E-mail http://www.***BANNED-URL***/blogs/images/email-icon.jpg News tips


The Dolphins just put out a press release, trumpeting the hire of Cowboys director of college and pro scouting Jeff Ireland as the team's new general manager, something Todd reported on a little while ago. The important piece of news on this expected move is that Miami is saying it is "immediate", meaning the Cowboys won't force him to stay in Dallas through the draft, as some thought they would.

Here's what the Dolphins put out. And here's a link with a nice picture of Tuna and his new right-hand man.
The Miami Dolphins today named Jeff Ireland as their new general manager, effective immediately. Ireland joins the Dolphins after a seven-year stint with the Dallas Cowboys, including the past three as the team’s Vice President of College and Pro Scouting. In fact, of the 53 players on the current Cowboys team, which went 13-3 and won the NFC East in 2007, 38 were acquired over the last three years, including 12 of the club’s 22 starters.​
“I am excited about joining the Dolphins as their general manager,” Ireland said. “I know the great tradition of the team, and in my mind they are one of the flagship franchises in the NFL. They have a great owner in Wayne Huizenga, who I know is committed to making the Dolphins into winners once again. I am looking forward to working with him and everyone else in Miami to achieve that goal.

“I also want to thank Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys organization. I enjoyed my tenure with the team, and I would not be where I am today without the help of so many people there.”
Prior to being elevated to his most recent role with the Cowboys in 2005, Ireland had served as national scout with Dallas since 2001, during which time he evaluated the top collegiate talent in the country. In his four years in that post, the Cowboys drafted four Pro Bowl performers in safety Roy Williams (D1, 2002), center Andre Gurode (D2a, 2002), cornerback Terence Newman (D1, 2003) and tight end Jason Witten (D3, 2003).

Ireland got his start in the NFL as a scout with the Kansas City Chiefs, where he spent the 1997-2000 seasons. He also was a scout for the National Football Scouting combine from 1994-96.
Before becoming an NFL scout, Ireland coached the special teams at the University of North Texas from 1992-93. This followed his playing career at Baylor University, where he was a kicker from 1988-91.

A native of Abilene, Texas, Ireland is the stepson of Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Fame linebacker/center E.J. Holub and the grandson of former Philadelphia Eagles player and longtime Chicago Bears personnel man Jim Parmer.

Well, I thought JJ was pretty adament that Ireland was going to go after the Draft - unless they could work out some sort of compensation.

I hope we got some draft pick.
 

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I'm just curious as to why Jerry let him go before the draft was up, we don't owe Parcells any favors.
 
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